ROSEMARY HUNTER - Paranormal Urination

Rosemary Hunter has applied for the Challenge, media presence requirement included, with the extraordinary claim that she can make people urinate themselves with the power of her mind.

Ms. Hunter has also presented an affidavit from an academic, however in this demonstration, she made the individual cry uncontrollably with the power of her mind.

Ms. Hunter's article (which is no longer available on the newspaper's web site) was written by Mike Seuffert of Sun News.

Mr. Seuffert invited Rosemary to take him to a park and attempt to make him urinate. Mr. Seuffert stopped the demonstration when he began to feel strange and ill.

Ms. Hunter says this ability is a gift from God, and that she is one of His angels.

We'll be posting more information as it becomes available!

~Remie

Ms. Hunter has sent along the following information regarding tests. Some of the information regarding her abilities has been deleted due to the need to keep secrecy regarding certain aspects of the test.

From Ms. Hunter herself:

1. There will be no direct physical contact with all parties involved in any demonstration. At anytime, I may request one exception only and that would be for me to place my flat hand on top on your (the participant) flat hand. Both hands will be facing downward.

2. All demonstrations are performed mentally/psychically only.

3. There will be no physical effects involved in any demonstration. E.g., no flashing lights, or no threats of physical or emotional harm.

4. The place of demonstration (room) will be in complete silence.

5. All demonstrations will be performed in a peaceful and calm setting.

6. All demonstrations will be performed in 30 minutes or less, or the demonstration will be considered a failure. The success rate is 100%.

7. There are no specifics for the type of person the demonstration will be performed on (participant). Race, gender, color, height, weight, sexuality, type of clothing worn, certain person present, certain day, or a certain time of day the demonstration will be performed are not of any concern. The aforementioned list of things are not of any necessity for a successful demonstration.

8. I will never have a third party (human being) involved in any demonstration. God speaks to me through my mind. His Holy Spirit will perform any of these demonstrations.

9. Your organization will have the final say so in determining the success of any demonstration.

11. All demonstrations will be performed at a reasonable distance. Reasonable is determined by at least one foot apart from each other, if the demonstration is performed standing. Any other demonstration will be performed while sitting at table of your choice. The table could be of any size, color, shape, or condition.

12. Since all demonstrations are performed mentally only, there are no equipment or devices of any type used.

Ms. Hunter's list of talents has grown, making it possible to create a different protocol (since if the demonstration requires a half hour per person, it is not reasonable to expect the group of volunteers to stand around for multiple half hours waiting to urinate themselves.)

We have queried her with the idea of randomizing her talents. Each of the participants will be given a list ahead of time of possible effects they may feel during the demonstration.

Here is an example of what the list may look like:

Laughter
Urination
Defecation
Vomiting
Sneezing
Falling asleep
Jumping up and down
Running in circles
Hopping on one foot
The appearance of red welts
Crying
Drooling
Runny nose
Healing of minor injuries

Only some of these will be talents Ms. Hunter can actually perform.

Volunteers will enter one at a time, and a talent of Ms. Hunter's will be chosen at random to be used for the individual. The volunteer will be wearing blacked out sunglasses, and will not know which talent has been chosen for the duration of the test.

Ms. Hunter will then have one half hour to achieve the desired result of the test, and the volunteer must feel *only* the effects of the talent Ms. Hunter was attempting to perform.

This protocol idea is still in very, very early stages, and we are searching for a way to get around the time issue. If we have ten volunteers and they take a half hour apiece, then those volunteers are eventually going to need to use the facilities with or without paranormal intervention.

Let us know in the thread on Ms. Hunter whether or not you see any issues with this idea, and if you have any more protocol suggestions.

Thanks very much,

Remie

Ms. Hunter has written and said that she will no longer need to touch volunteers during the test. This means we can go with the original protocol of having a group of people with blacked out sunglasses. Ms. Hunter will then randomly choose a number, and attempt to make the corresponding person urinate.

She has also shortened the required time to fifteen minutes per person.

After some talking with JREF Staff, we decided that it would be enough for Ms. Hunter to make a single individual urinate themselves - and that person will be Jeff Wagg.

We are setting up dates according to availability for a time when Mr. Wagg and Ms. Hunter will both be able to come to the JREF headquarters.

The video of this test, when and if it happens, will be available on the JREF Youtube.

Ms. Hunter has agreed to allow us to air the test live via webcam. A loose date has been set for the first week of November.

Ms. Hunter will have fifteen minutes to paranormally cause Jeff Wagg to urinate himself. There will be no diapers involved. Mr. Wagg will empty his bladder beforehand, as per Ms. Hunter's instructions.

Here is the protocol outline:

After your arrival and introductions at the JREF, you and Jeff Wagg will enter a room privately where you will have fifteen minutes to make him urinate through paranormal means.

Touching of hands will be permitted. Speaking, should it be deemed necessary, will be permitted.

The test will be recorded by another JREF staff member.

With your permission, there will also be a stationary webcam so interested parties can view the test live.

Both you and Jeff will remain standing for the length of the test.

Jeff will not be wearing any diapers or other absorbent materials besides regular pants and underwear.

At the end of fifteen minutes, if Jeff has not urinated, the test will be considered a failure.

Ms. Hunter's test is slated for November 12th at JREF Headquarters.

Rosemary Hunter will be arriving at the JREF around 2:30pm on November 12th.

If you are on the forum at that time, please join us in the chat room for live discussion.

www.randi.org/chat/

The link to the live webcam will be available on the 12th in this thread.

So, the live urination cam is up at

mms://www.randi.org:8080

which should be accessible from Windows Media Player.

For cross-platform access, use VLC, but make the URL be

mmsh://www.randi.org:8080

The uplink is over a low bandwidth connection, so I'm afraid the frame-rate isn't stellar. You should be able to get the idea of what's going on though.

ETA: Feedback on this technology would be welcome in this thread: http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?p=3147682

Also post there or join us in the chatroom if you are having issues making it work.

Ms. Hunter has failed the preliminary Challenge Test.

The live webcam, however, was extremely successful, and a lot of people turned out for a chatroom review of the test! If you were unable to tune in for the test, don't worry. The footage will be available on Youtube in the near future.

The Challenge Test video is now available.