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TRUE CRIME WITH SYLVIA BROWNE
Announcer: A gruesome triple homicide, unsolved for 32 years.
Ms. SYLVIA BROWNE (World-Renowned Psychic and Best-Selling Author): This person is still alive.
Announcer: Can this killer finally be caught with psychic Sylvia Browne's help?
Ms. BROWNE: I keep seeing that he's repeating this.
...
WILLIAMS: All right. Well, let's get busy today, because our first guests are here because they need a little help in solving a murder that is over 32 years old. Now I will tell you something. We have never--we never give Sylvia any information at all before the show starts. This is the only guest that we've had--and I'm going to tell you--in 12 years, I think, that I've decided--I talked to the producers before the show. She doesn't even know this. I said, 'Give Sylvia every bit of this information,' the reason being is because a 32-year-old case, with all these little things in it, I just thought maybe the more information--it's almost like you doing a full reading in two minutes.
Ms. BROWNE: Yeah.
WILLIAMS: Now before you had more information about it. Let's take a look at this t...
Ms. BROWNE: But there wasn't that much information, Montel.
WILLIAMS: Really?
Ms. BROWNE: No. I mean, there wasn't that much that was valid in it.
WILLIAMS: All right. Let's take a look at this tape real quick.
(Excerpt from videotape)
SHEILA (Wants To Know Who Murdered Her Relatives): I never met my aunt, Dale Jean, or my two cousins, Christine or Troy. They were murdered 32 years ago, two years before I was born. No one knows what really happened, and even today my family is still haunted by this crime.
WILLIAMS: Twenty-four-year-old Dale Jean, six-year-old Christine and three-year-old Troy were found dead in their home on the morning of April 10th, 1970. They had been brutally stabbed to death. Police arrested family acquaintance Dennis Baker for the deaths.
SHEILA: Dennis Baker was never convicted of the murders. He hung himself in his jail cell in 1974. It's now been 32 years, and my family still has no answers.
Even though I didn't know my Aunt Dale Jean and two cousins, I still feel as if it is my responsibility to help solve the murder. These murders have torn my family apart. Solving the murders and bringing this person to justice will bring my family to closure.
Sylvia, please help my family find peace.
(End of excerpt)
WILLIAMS: You know, before we welcome the guest, I will say that this case is an open murder investigation, even 32 years later ...
(unintelligible)...
Ms. BROWNE: Oh, sure. Homicides never close. Yeah.
WILLIAMS: ...they're working on it. Please welcome Dale Jean's sister, Shirlene, and her niece, Sheila, to the show. Welcome them. And I know--I know--I got to tell you, she is chomping at the bit already. I can tell it, I can see it, but I'm not going to let her say anything yet, because I think what we want to do is, we want everybody at home to know what it is your family has been dealing with.
You weren't even born...
SHEILA: No.
WILLIAMS: ...is that correct, when this happened?
SHEILA: That is correct.
WILLIAMS: S--and so the--the family, did they talk about this while you were growing up?
SHEILA: No, they didn't. I think it was too much for them. I--my mother had pictures out of them, and I knew that they were murdered, but we never knew, really, what happened, other than it was in the home.
WILLIAMS: Let's explain to everybody what happened.
SHIRLENE (Wants To Know Who Murdered Her Sister): Her sister-in-law found her.
WILLIAMS: Her sister-in-law found her.
SHIRLENE: Yes.
WILLIAMS: And the morning that she found her, they found her how? Why don't you explain? Because this is one of the most heinous, gruesome murders in the state of Utah, correct?
SHIRLENE: Yes, it is.
WILLIAMS: I--I won't go into complete detail. Let's just say that the mother was found...
Ms. BROWNE: ...(Unintelligible) ugly.
WILLIAMS: ...stabbed brutally to death...
Unidentified Woman #1: Yes.
SHIRLENE: Yes, but...
WILLIAMS: ...and both children were, a three-year-old at the time and a six-year-old?
SHIRLENE: Three-year-old and a six-year-old, yeah.
WILLIAMS: Both children were stabbed multiple times in a brutal way.
There was blood all over the house, and the father was away on a business trip.
SHIRLENE: That's correct.
WILLIAMS: Was never considered a suspect. And no one has any idea how this happened.
SHIRLENE: No, we do not.
WILLIAMS: Now the leads--i--initially when they had this one gentleman, Baker, in jail, for murder...
Ms. BROWNE: But he killed himself.
WILLIAMS: And he killed himself. They had--did--did you feel, did the family feel that they had the right person, at the time?
SHIRLENE: There were times where we felt like he had been the murderer, yes. But there were still too many questions still in our mind of why he would do this. My sister...
WILLIAMS: And he never admitted to it.
SHIRLENE: He never did, no.
WILLIAMS: All right. Sylvia, what do you think?
Ms. BROWNE: It was a guy by the name of Steven--this is someone that was known to the husband, all right? I'm not saying the husband had anything to do with it, but what bothers me is I think the husband knew this person, not made him do it, but this person was a l--a loon. This is like a--almost like a Hannibal Lecter person. Do you see what I'm saying?
WILLIAMS: This person, now, did--did he think he was doing somebody a favor, or he just did this out of the blue?
Ms. BROWNE: No. This is one of those 'God told me, you know, that this is a bad thing.' It's like Son of Sam. Do you see what I'm saying? This is a nut case.
WILLIAMS: Has he ever committed another crime?
Ms. BROWNE: Oh, yeah. He's committed a couple of crimes around that area. I would really track and see with the police if there weren't these--within that same period of time in the '70s if there wasn't these horrific crimes that were--just seemed to be motiveless.
WILLIAMS: In that same area of the country.
Ms. BROWNE: In that same area.
WILLIAMS: You know what? I'm going to take a little break. When we come back, we're going to meet Detective Joe Morrison...
Ms. BROWNE: Oh, good.
WILLIAMS: ...who is still working this case today.
Ms. BROWNE: Good. I want--because I want to describe this guy to him.
WILLIAMS: You got it. Let me take a little break. We'll be back right after this.
(Excerpt from upcoming segment)
Ms. BROWNE: See, this is what bothers me. This is what you call a maniac. I mean, this is a maniac.
WILLIAMS: Is this person still alive today?
Ms. BROWNE: Yes. This person is still alive.
(End of excerpt)
(Announcements)
(Excerpt from videotape)
Sergeant Detective JOE MORRISON (Layton Police Department, Layton, Utah): They had been over everything they could think of, but at the time, there was a lot of stuff they didn't have that we have now. It may be that it--the DNA doesn't show me anything that's usable, but we won't know that till we do it.
(End of excerpt)
WILLIAMS: Please welcome Sergeant Detective Joe Morrison, please. You di--you were able to retrieve some DNA. Was that from old samples that the police department still had, or would--did you exhume the bodies and get DNA?
Det. MORRISON: No. The officers at the time originally collected samples. Also from the autopsies that were performed, samples were collected.
WILLIAMS: Were they samples of some of a--what would...
(Show interrupted by newscast showing police briefing on sniper)
WILLIAMS: ...her and her sister had to endure. Take a look at this.
...
Then it cuts to another two guests.
Less than two yers later the police officially closed the case and, oddly enough, had no clue as to why it was reopened in the first place, when they had long ago concluded that the two people arrested for it had done it. The article even states the family was upset at having old wounds reopened, by the police and by a psychic on the Montel show:
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qn4188/is_20040905/ai_n11472491
Here's a little more about it: http://www.attygen.state.ut.us/utap/langston.htm
TRUE CRIME WITH SYLVIA BROWNE
Announcer: A gruesome triple homicide, unsolved for 32 years.
Ms. SYLVIA BROWNE (World-Renowned Psychic and Best-Selling Author): This person is still alive.
Announcer: Can this killer finally be caught with psychic Sylvia Browne's help?
Ms. BROWNE: I keep seeing that he's repeating this.
...
WILLIAMS: All right. Well, let's get busy today, because our first guests are here because they need a little help in solving a murder that is over 32 years old. Now I will tell you something. We have never--we never give Sylvia any information at all before the show starts. This is the only guest that we've had--and I'm going to tell you--in 12 years, I think, that I've decided--I talked to the producers before the show. She doesn't even know this. I said, 'Give Sylvia every bit of this information,' the reason being is because a 32-year-old case, with all these little things in it, I just thought maybe the more information--it's almost like you doing a full reading in two minutes.
Ms. BROWNE: Yeah.
WILLIAMS: Now before you had more information about it. Let's take a look at this t...
Ms. BROWNE: But there wasn't that much information, Montel.
WILLIAMS: Really?
Ms. BROWNE: No. I mean, there wasn't that much that was valid in it.
WILLIAMS: All right. Let's take a look at this tape real quick.
(Excerpt from videotape)
SHEILA (Wants To Know Who Murdered Her Relatives): I never met my aunt, Dale Jean, or my two cousins, Christine or Troy. They were murdered 32 years ago, two years before I was born. No one knows what really happened, and even today my family is still haunted by this crime.
WILLIAMS: Twenty-four-year-old Dale Jean, six-year-old Christine and three-year-old Troy were found dead in their home on the morning of April 10th, 1970. They had been brutally stabbed to death. Police arrested family acquaintance Dennis Baker for the deaths.
SHEILA: Dennis Baker was never convicted of the murders. He hung himself in his jail cell in 1974. It's now been 32 years, and my family still has no answers.
Even though I didn't know my Aunt Dale Jean and two cousins, I still feel as if it is my responsibility to help solve the murder. These murders have torn my family apart. Solving the murders and bringing this person to justice will bring my family to closure.
Sylvia, please help my family find peace.
(End of excerpt)
WILLIAMS: You know, before we welcome the guest, I will say that this case is an open murder investigation, even 32 years later ...
(unintelligible)...
Ms. BROWNE: Oh, sure. Homicides never close. Yeah.
WILLIAMS: ...they're working on it. Please welcome Dale Jean's sister, Shirlene, and her niece, Sheila, to the show. Welcome them. And I know--I know--I got to tell you, she is chomping at the bit already. I can tell it, I can see it, but I'm not going to let her say anything yet, because I think what we want to do is, we want everybody at home to know what it is your family has been dealing with.
You weren't even born...
SHEILA: No.
WILLIAMS: ...is that correct, when this happened?
SHEILA: That is correct.
WILLIAMS: S--and so the--the family, did they talk about this while you were growing up?
SHEILA: No, they didn't. I think it was too much for them. I--my mother had pictures out of them, and I knew that they were murdered, but we never knew, really, what happened, other than it was in the home.
WILLIAMS: Let's explain to everybody what happened.
SHIRLENE (Wants To Know Who Murdered Her Sister): Her sister-in-law found her.
WILLIAMS: Her sister-in-law found her.
SHIRLENE: Yes.
WILLIAMS: And the morning that she found her, they found her how? Why don't you explain? Because this is one of the most heinous, gruesome murders in the state of Utah, correct?
SHIRLENE: Yes, it is.
WILLIAMS: I--I won't go into complete detail. Let's just say that the mother was found...
Ms. BROWNE: ...(Unintelligible) ugly.
WILLIAMS: ...stabbed brutally to death...
Unidentified Woman #1: Yes.
SHIRLENE: Yes, but...
WILLIAMS: ...and both children were, a three-year-old at the time and a six-year-old?
SHIRLENE: Three-year-old and a six-year-old, yeah.
WILLIAMS: Both children were stabbed multiple times in a brutal way.
There was blood all over the house, and the father was away on a business trip.
SHIRLENE: That's correct.
WILLIAMS: Was never considered a suspect. And no one has any idea how this happened.
SHIRLENE: No, we do not.
WILLIAMS: Now the leads--i--initially when they had this one gentleman, Baker, in jail, for murder...
Ms. BROWNE: But he killed himself.
WILLIAMS: And he killed himself. They had--did--did you feel, did the family feel that they had the right person, at the time?
SHIRLENE: There were times where we felt like he had been the murderer, yes. But there were still too many questions still in our mind of why he would do this. My sister...
WILLIAMS: And he never admitted to it.
SHIRLENE: He never did, no.
WILLIAMS: All right. Sylvia, what do you think?
Ms. BROWNE: It was a guy by the name of Steven--this is someone that was known to the husband, all right? I'm not saying the husband had anything to do with it, but what bothers me is I think the husband knew this person, not made him do it, but this person was a l--a loon. This is like a--almost like a Hannibal Lecter person. Do you see what I'm saying?
WILLIAMS: This person, now, did--did he think he was doing somebody a favor, or he just did this out of the blue?
Ms. BROWNE: No. This is one of those 'God told me, you know, that this is a bad thing.' It's like Son of Sam. Do you see what I'm saying? This is a nut case.
WILLIAMS: Has he ever committed another crime?
Ms. BROWNE: Oh, yeah. He's committed a couple of crimes around that area. I would really track and see with the police if there weren't these--within that same period of time in the '70s if there wasn't these horrific crimes that were--just seemed to be motiveless.
WILLIAMS: In that same area of the country.
Ms. BROWNE: In that same area.
WILLIAMS: You know what? I'm going to take a little break. When we come back, we're going to meet Detective Joe Morrison...
Ms. BROWNE: Oh, good.
WILLIAMS: ...who is still working this case today.
Ms. BROWNE: Good. I want--because I want to describe this guy to him.
WILLIAMS: You got it. Let me take a little break. We'll be back right after this.
(Excerpt from upcoming segment)
Ms. BROWNE: See, this is what bothers me. This is what you call a maniac. I mean, this is a maniac.
WILLIAMS: Is this person still alive today?
Ms. BROWNE: Yes. This person is still alive.
(End of excerpt)
(Announcements)
(Excerpt from videotape)
Sergeant Detective JOE MORRISON (Layton Police Department, Layton, Utah): They had been over everything they could think of, but at the time, there was a lot of stuff they didn't have that we have now. It may be that it--the DNA doesn't show me anything that's usable, but we won't know that till we do it.
(End of excerpt)
WILLIAMS: Please welcome Sergeant Detective Joe Morrison, please. You di--you were able to retrieve some DNA. Was that from old samples that the police department still had, or would--did you exhume the bodies and get DNA?
Det. MORRISON: No. The officers at the time originally collected samples. Also from the autopsies that were performed, samples were collected.
WILLIAMS: Were they samples of some of a--what would...
(Show interrupted by newscast showing police briefing on sniper)
WILLIAMS: ...her and her sister had to endure. Take a look at this.
...
Then it cuts to another two guests.
Less than two yers later the police officially closed the case and, oddly enough, had no clue as to why it was reopened in the first place, when they had long ago concluded that the two people arrested for it had done it. The article even states the family was upset at having old wounds reopened, by the police and by a psychic on the Montel show:
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qn4188/is_20040905/ai_n11472491
Here's a little more about it: http://www.attygen.state.ut.us/utap/langston.htm
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