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Old 12th February 2003, 01:58 PM   #1
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HRH Prince Charles: Defender of Faith...

http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=stor...ain_archbishop
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Old 12th February 2003, 02:02 PM   #2
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That link doesn't seem to work for me



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Old 12th February 2003, 02:03 PM   #3
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not sure why, here's some exerpts...

LONDON - The new archbishop of Canterbury opposes Prince Charles' notion that the monarch should be a "defender of faith," rather than the traditional title of "defender of the faith," meaning the Church of England.



"I'm glad that the Prince of Wales takes faith communities as seriously as he does, but the actual title, there is an historical, constitutional framework for it which you don't just change by fiat," Archbishop Rowan Williams said in an interview published Wednesday in The Daily Telegraph.


In 1994, the heir to the throne said he would like to be a "defender of faith."


Charles said he wanted to be the defender of belief "of the divine in existence, the pattern of the divine which is, I think, in all of us but which, because we are human beings, can be expressed in so many different ways."


As monarch, Charles would be supreme governor of the Church of England, the legally established faith of the nation.


"Unless something really radical happens with the constitution he is, like it or not, defender of the faith and he has a relationship with the Christian church of a kind which he does not have with other faith communities," Williams said. "But three cheers that he has the seriousness he has about this."
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Old 12th February 2003, 02:41 PM   #4
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One of the most interesting things about the King/Queen of England holding the title, Defender of the Faith is that it was bestowed upon them originally by a Pope. King Henry VIII received the title for his denounciation of Martin Luther. Now the title is supposed to indicate the Monarchs supremacy over the Church of England.

Just today's little history lesson.
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Old 12th February 2003, 04:56 PM   #5
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I think Prince Charles has a point. Here's the old boy, defending faith based quackery of all kinds and he only get's credit for one.

Come on, if we're going to appoint the prince as an official monkey of anti-reason, we might as well go all the way.
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Old 13th February 2003, 08:21 AM   #6
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Actually, it is a interesting effort to "modernize" the role in an increasingly multi-cultural England...and to that extent, it is dificult to argue with (though, methinks, that it also is an acknowldegement by Charles that he is some sort of post-C oF E christian and holder of many "newage" beliefs...)...

I think he is a wonderfully absud characher, I especially love it when this product of a 1000 years of genetic engineering (who believes that equals the right of him and his family to have some sort of unique position in the world) complains about GM products as somehow "un-natural" and antithical to god's law...but that's another issue...
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"But I don't want to be defender of the faith. I just want to sing!"
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Old 13th February 2003, 08:43 AM   #8
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Stop that, stop that, there'll be no singing here....
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Stop that, stop that, there'll be no singing here....
Hehe, I am soooo glad someone got that.
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Old 13th February 2003, 08:49 AM   #10
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"Son (gesturing to the window) someday all of this will be yours..."

"What? The curtains?" (look of dissapointment, consternation and general befuddlement)...
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Old 13th February 2003, 10:16 AM   #11
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hhmmmm

If Charles really wants to be modern, he should change his title from "Prince of Wales" to unemployed welfare bum......
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Old 13th February 2003, 10:18 AM   #12
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Indeed, strange women lying in ponds, distributing swords, is no basis for a system of government....

I wonder if the Welsh would make Charles prince, given the chance?
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Old 13th February 2003, 11:24 AM   #13
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haggis

The Scots would make haggis out of him if they could....
I know he avoids Loch Ness, cause they've been passing Nessie off as a crazy rumor for years while in reality training her to eat balding men with big ears....
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