An open letter to remaining members of the Truth Movement

R.Mackey

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Dear Truth Movement supporters,

By now you are probably aware of the dwindling and leaderless nature of the Truth Movement, which was plainly exposed on and around the sixth anniversary of September 11th, only a few days ago. A significant fraction of former members have left the Truth Movement, many recently, perhaps because of this problem or disillusionment with the dubious foundation, fractious infighting, or sometimes disrespectful conduct of a few within the Movement. Another significant fraction of you remain, but have expressed reasonable doubts and concerns about the Movement's future and intended direction. Without dwelling on the causes or laying blame anywhere, I'd like to offer a polite suggestion, one that focuses solely on the positive aspects of your efforts.

Over the last two years I have had conversations with many of you, most of an Internet-enabled nature but a few in real life. I've spoken with those of you from virtually every background, from pre-teenage idealists to your foremost authors and lecturers. I will not dwell on the disagreements themselves. Instead, let me remark that I have found, for the majority of those in the Truth Movement, many admirable qualities:

Concern for Humanity: Most of you show a genuine concern for civilization at large and your fellow Americans, a truly altruistic viewpoint. As there are numerous avenues to make a real difference, there are plenty of opportunities to apply this to good purpose.

Energy and Courage: Quite a few of you have put considerable and sustained effort into promoting your views, and express a desire to act rather than merely speak on the issues. Given the almost overwhelming opposition and derision meted out by the public at large, it is clear that these desires will not easily be extinguished, but merely require direction.

Desire for Organization: There is a natural tendency towards teamwork and more effective activism, as demonstrated by the spontaneous appearance of numerous Truth Movement clubs and splinter groups. Such teamwork is essential for effective activism, if difficult to harness.​

Let me give as an example Mr. John Feal, a charity organizer in New York sympathetic to the Truth Movement. While his opinions regarding Sept. 11th are speculative at best and his organization could stand more professionalism, I am awe-struck by his personal commitment and his personal sacrifices. We should help such individuals rather than oppose them, and criticize only in a constructive manner, regardless of how we feel about their politics or approach.

Therefore, let me make the following suggestion to those remaining in the Truth Movement: Apply yourselves to other, worthier humanitarian causes.

I have argued, for the past two years, that there is no compelling evidence for United States Government sponsorship or involvement in September 11th. This does not mean that the Government is perfect, or that there are no deep and troubling problems facing us as a society. There are many, many causes that warrant activism. Unlike the roots of the Truth Movement, these causes serve to address problems that are unarguably real and significant, and demand attention. Activism is enshrined in the United States Constitution for a reason, and that is because activism is patriotic, and fosters a healthy society.

I present here a brief list of organizations that you, as members or former members of the Truth Movement, should consider supporting with your time and energy. This list is only the barest beginning of the myriad organizations that could benefit from your help:

  • Greenpeace
  • Amnesty International
  • United States Peace Corps
  • Habitat for Humanity
  • Reclaim The Streets
  • The Sierra Club
  • MoveOn
  • Bill of Rights Defense Committee
  • Freedom to Marry
The entire spectrum of politics is represented in seasoned, legitimate, honorable activist organizations. Here you can make a difference. Here you can learn from those who have been there, broaden your experiences, and come to a more complete understanding of history, politics, and the nature of social change. Here you can achieve something worthy and memorable, without merely descending into cynicism. Pick whatever works for you. Find your niche. Focus. Learn. Stick with it. Make a difference.

As the saying goes, "Think Globally, Act Locally." You will probably find that a more local cause, perhaps aligned with one of these large organizations, is the best way to start. It is difficult for one to personally confront President Bush about the treatement of prisoners at Guantanamo Bay, but it is possible to personally address, peacefully protest, and bring about change in case of human rights abuses in your hometown. The larger, international organizations can help you find these causes as well. You will also find a groundswell of activism at local universities and colleges. Local action leads to personal satisfaction, but also to global change.

I offer this suggestion in friendship. You do not have to agree with my view of September 11th, my politics, or my background -- the choice is entirely up to you, and you may give whatever you feel you can. I urge you all to make a difference, and to seize the day.

Sincerely,
Ryan Mackey
 
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great post.

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:bigclap

And might I also suggest the NRA as a new group to rally behind. If you want to stay mad at the gummit, buy guns then you can be all THEY WANT TO TAKE MY GUNS AND DESTROY THE CONSTITUTION and really never miss a beat.

Ummm... on second thought I'd prefer most of you were never armed. Yeah, go with Greenpeace. :p
 
You want them to take their paranoid delusions to a worthwhile cause? How would that help anyone?
 
You want them to take their paranoid delusions to a worthwhile cause? How would that help anyone?


I expect it would help them the most.

Practically everyone is mad at the Government. Few of us really know why. Even fewer do anything useful to change it.

Real-life experience trumps all else. That's the theory.
 
I think R.Mackey has made and excellent point here. I have no problem with the Truth Movement being angry at the government. I have no problem with them being concerned about the future of their society. I have no problem with them wanting change. I have no problem with them being dedicated to a cause. Those are all noble and admirable attributes to have in a free society.

My only concern is that the cause they have joined is built on lies and ignorance.

Too few people in this world act against perceived problems. Most of us just ignore them. Those in the truth movement have chosen to act against a perceived problem, and that in itself should be applauded. The only problem is their problem simply doesn't exist. There's ample real problems without fabricating new ones.

-Gumboot
 
What is wrong with wanting truth and accountability?

19 Arabian hijackers did not pull this off with direction from a cave dwelling boogieman!

I'm very disappointed with this forum thus far. You all are NO different than the very "twoofers" you discredit!? You dis their theories with your own theories that your ascertain from other peoples theories. And when someone brings a question that you cannot answer w/ a honest refutation that would result in an actual discussion, thats when the straw-men come in.
 
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As I have neither called anyone names nor injected personal attacks with my letter, your post is in violation of Rule 11, "off-topic posting." Please take this elsewhere. My letter is sincere.
 
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At least the 'cave dwelling boogie man' can produce better videos than anybody in the twoof movement.

Where do you get the idea OBL was a cave dweller? Before 9/11 he could pretty much go wherever the heck he wanted inside Afganistan.

ETA: Sorry, don't answer, per Mackey's request. Maybe another thread?
 

Good lord man, at least use the search function enough to see what some other twoofers come in saying. Even if you're not, it looks like you're all playing from a stupid handbook... and it never works.

You want to debate? Fine. Make a specific point and go with it. But this "I'm disappointed with you guys" rot is retarded, because the last thing we're looking to do is make this a place where idiotic viewpoints, bad science, and willful deception get treated with the same respect as facts and truths WITHOUT a "tm."
 
What is wrong with wanting truth and accountability?

19 Arabian hijackers did not pull this off with direction from a cave dwelling boogieman!

I'm very disappointed with this forum thus far. You all are NO different than the very "twoofers" you discredit!? You dis their theories with your own theories that your ascertain from other peoples theories. And when someone brings a question that you cannot answer w/ a honest refutation that would result in an actual discussion, thats when the straw-men come in.


HereticHulk, show us an example of a serious question raised by 9/11 fantasists. On this forum, we encounter every day recycled nonsense that has been thoroughly debunked and, occasionally, newly-fabricated nonsense that offends by its sheer absurdity. Conspiracy liars have been screaming for years. Show us a single piece of real evidence that supports the myths they promote.
 
19 Arabian hijackers did not pull this off with direction from a cave dwelling boogieman!
What is wrong with where one dwells? Why do you guys still go with this narrow-minded notion that because you live in a cave, you're uneducated? I lived in a tent for a week on an island when I was 13. I really liked that lifestyle. Does that mean I am uneducated?

If you happened to have read anything apart from conspiracy literature, you would have realized that Osama Bin Laden has an education from one of Saudi Arabia's most prestigious universities and he's from one of Saudi Arabia's wealthiest families...
 
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Interesting letter. I hope it's taken in the spirit it was intended, Ryan.

Since your letter sugests that Truth Movement members act locally and volunteer, it made me wonder what type of local activism or volunteer work people on this forum had participated in?

Sorry for the derail, as it's probably a thread of it's own.

Skinny
 

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