Loose Change vs. William Rodriguez

ref · 25th September 2007, 12:36 AM

Get your popcorn.

http://z10.invisionfree.com/Loose_Ch...howtopic=16305

It's about Dylan blaming William for leaking the information on Mark Cuban and Charlie Sheen deals. And William defending himself against these accusations.

The latest from William:

Originally Posted by William

SO here we are in a turning point. If this is the way it is, I will then wish you well and continue my journey alone. Please fell free to cancel my membership.

More popcorn, please. Waiting for the next posts.

NickUK · 25th September 2007, 01:52 AM

Originally Posted by ref

Get your popcorn.

http://z10.invisionfree.com/Loose_Ch...howtopic=16305

It's about Dylan blaming William for leaking the information on Mark Cuban and Charlie Sheen deals. And William defending himself against these accusations.

The latest from William:

More popcorn, please. Waiting for the next posts.

I'll be very annoyed if NWO kitty doesn't make an appearance on page 1 of this thread to explain all this to me...

Undesired Walrus · 25th September 2007, 02:11 AM

Originally Posted by dylan

Mark Cuban and Charlie Sheen

Nobody was supposed to know about that until the time was right. Thanks to William Rodriguez telling the NY Post all about it, the deal with Cuban was sunk within a week, and Charlie still hasn't gotten back to us with feedback on the cut we sent him. He just got syndication of Two and a Half Men, so maybe that's what's more important. It's his life, not mine.

WTC7 Witness

Well, as usual, we tried doing the right thing and released a minute and a half of his interview under the explicit directions that we did not want to reveal his identity until the time was right. What happened? People started calling him at his job, and he got threatened with being fired.

So, basically, we've tried our best to keep our mouths shut about things until it was right to say something. But, people decided that waiting wasn't good enough, so they needed answers immediately.

And now, here we are, without a theater deal and without our WTC7 witness. So now we're releasing it independently, hopefully four-walling it into theaters ourselves.

Call it anti-climactic. I call it us making lemonade out of lemons.

You got what you deserved Do-Over.

gumboot · 25th September 2007, 02:22 AM

Well frankly, if you nest with vipers you're going to get bit.

-Gumboot

boloboffin · 25th September 2007, 02:25 AM

They dropped Rodriguez because of time constraints? The same reason they gave for dropping the missile pod theories?

Right after Rodriguez decided to charge them for his interview and footage, seeing as how it was going to theaters?

Oh, the [rule10] has well and truly hit the fan over in LC Land.

Foolmewunz · 25th September 2007, 02:44 AM

Originally Posted by gumboot

Well frankly, if you nest with vipers you're going to get bit.

-Gumboot

Who's the nester and who's the nestee, though? Or do they take turns? How many times has it been said by how many people.... It's All About the Money!

Undesired Walrus · 25th September 2007, 02:47 AM

It is quite amusing how Charlie hasn't got back to Dylan because of 'syndication' for Two and a Half Men.

If he keeps getting this hostile when things do not go his way, he will have no contacts, no friends, and no more movies.

ETA:

Quote:

SHEEN COME THROUGH WE NEED YOU JUST DO THE NARRATION, WHEN THEY START WW3 YOULL REALIZE THAT 2 AND A HALF MEN WAS NOT THAT IMPORTANT, CMON GET ON BOARD AND SAVE THE REPUBLIC, HOPEFULLY ALEX JONES CAN CONVINCE YOU TO NARRATE.

what comedy gold.

8den · 25th September 2007, 03:12 AM

Originally Posted by William Rodriguez

In my case, I told them ( you ) that if this was going to be a movie release and not an internet effort, the rules of the game changes and that I, my organization should be compensated, in exchange I will give you the rights to the testimony and also unique exclusive videos of my 20 years working on the Towers. Finally, access to many of the eyewitnesses that are waiting to testify that were never interviewed before. Not a bad deal, isn't?

Nice to see him lay it out for us in black and white. Love the carrot at the end of it.

jsiv · 25th September 2007, 03:21 AM

Originally Posted by Aiko

So, you're selling witnesses, William? Worse than that, you're withholding the ones that were never interviewed before ... for money?! The truth isn't about getting "compensated."

Dylan, Korey, and Bermas couldn't be more self-less with the movement. I hoped you would be like them in this matter.

Forgive me, but you've lost my respect.

Priceless.

MarkyX · 25th September 2007, 03:39 AM

Wow it's like William Rodriguez has become a pimp; selling people for services!

Oh, Dylan..

Quote:

Thanks to William Rodriguez telling the NY Post all about it, the deal with Cuban was sunk within a week

I think ol' Dylan is forgetting that Mark Cuban contacted me after some people told him about Screw Loose Change. And I did mention a few things over an email to Mark Cuban and his buddy who phoned me.

You want to know the biggest challenge with your film Dylan, according to what they told me? Copyright.

As soon as I heard that word, I knew your pseudo-film wouldn't make it.

Horatius · 25th September 2007, 03:51 AM

Quote:

So, you're selling witnesses, William? Worse than that, you're withholding the ones that were never interviewed before ... for money?! The truth isn't about getting "compensated."

Dylan, Korey, and Bermas couldn't be more self-less with the movement. I hoped you would be like them in this matter.

Forgive me, but you've lost my respect.

Weren't these the same people that were castigating us not so long ago for not respecting William? How much changes in such a short time!

Horatius · 25th September 2007, 04:05 AM

Originally Posted by NickUK

I'll be very annoyed if NWO kitty doesn't make an appearance on page 1 of this thread to explain all this to me...

The Doc · 25th September 2007, 04:40 AM

That was the greatest thing I have ever read. This is all too hilarious.

nlarosa · 25th September 2007, 04:43 AM

Originally Posted by The Doc

That was the greatest thing I have ever read. This is all too hilarious.

Laff i agree

defaultdotxbe · 25th September 2007, 04:45 AM

arent the LC boys alwasy bragging about how much money they are going to give/have given to victims and first responders? doesnt rodriguez count as one or both of those? they should be more than willing to share their honey pot, but again, we see their true colors

honestly i cant blame willie for wanting a cut of the profits

NickUK · 25th September 2007, 04:55 AM

Originally Posted by Horatius

http://static.stripgenerator.com/gen...-talk-more.png

I knew the furry fella wouldn't let me down!

SpaceMonkeyZero · 25th September 2007, 05:02 AM

It's not like Rosie's doing anything these days except hawking her book about her breaking her own fingers for attention. I'm sure Dylan can sign her up for some excellent voice over work.

Disbelief · 25th September 2007, 05:05 AM

Originally Posted by SpaceMonkeyZero

It's not like Rosie's doing anything these days except hawking her book about her breaking her own fingers for attention. I'm sure Dylan can sign her up for some excellent voice over work.

No, they will use her for her typing skills and let her do the close captioning.

CHF · 25th September 2007, 05:39 AM

So Willy Rod was in it for money all along? I'm stunned! Stunned I tell ya!

No theater, no Charlie, no Willy. What a lovely day

Foolmewunz · 25th September 2007, 05:43 AM

What I enjoyed was the comment from Dylan about having to go to four-wall deals. This is when the film is such a turkey that no one will show it. You basically get the ticket income, and you pay the owners for the space. But the theatre or cineplex keeps the real juice - the concession stand revenues. (Altough I don't know if they sell rolling papers.)

In short, no one with a dime's worth of commercial sense wants to go near this thing. If they could barely get 300 people (and remember, that includes mommies) to their over-hyped preview edition in the midst of Truthstock, how many people are they going to get to go to a cinema and pay ten bucks? Especially since it's just a new improved rehashing of the other eleventy-seven versions.

Gravy · 25th September 2007, 05:51 AM

Oh, my. I guess if you stay in the sandbox too long it becomes a litterbox. Final Cut Pro this ain't.

Undesired Walrus · 25th September 2007, 06:00 AM

What strikes me as fascinating is how Dylan will blame anybody but himself.

What is also strange is how vocal he is about the utter failure of the film and Sheen shunning them for a 2-bit sitcom.

boloboffin · 25th September 2007, 06:07 AM

Originally Posted by Undesired Walrus

What strikes me as fascinating is how Dylan will blame anybody but himself.

What is also strange is how vocal he is about the utter failure of the film and Sheen shunning them for a 2-bit sitcom.

Actually, Two And A Half Men is the first show since Friends to land a cash-plus-barter deal for their entire network run which isn't over yet. There is greeen in that thar two-bit sitcom.

CHF · 25th September 2007, 06:09 AM

Originally Posted by A Quiet Friend

Well, I'm sure that the movie is great and all but... it could go the way you describe OR you could get a spineless judge who caves to pressure and decides that because Charlie has aligned himself with a bunch of nutjobs - that's us ... then he shouldn't be left alone with the kids because he's a dangerous person... blah, blah, blah... I would hope that that sort of thing would never happen but I could see some lunatic in the court system trying to be a tough guy.

Yeah I'm sure ol' Charlie took that into consideration. Who wouldn't?

It's easy to be a twoofer when you're a single white male...not so easy when you gotta appear sane enough to still see your kids.

Gravy · 25th September 2007, 06:17 AM

Originally Posted by Do Over

WTC7 Witness

Well, as usual, we tried doing the right thing and released a minute and a half of his interview under the explicit directions that we did not want to reveal his identity until the time was right. What happened? People started calling him at his job, and he got threatened with being fired.

Its unbelievable that Avery blames others for revealing who his WTC 7 witness was. AVERY put the guy's story on the air, with many of the same details that we've read in the press and the NIST report, and quotes from the Avery interview appeared at Prisonplanet.

June 18:

Originally Posted by Do Over

Tomorrow on LTW Radio we're gonna broadcast clips from an interview we conducted last Tuesday before we headed to Bonnaroo.

Btw, many many thanks to Travis of SCI for hooking us up.

You've seen him before, in a news interview widely disseminated on the web, but you've never heard from him since. Until now.

He was working in WTC7 on 9/11. And he saw and experienced things that drive a giant nail through the coffin of the official story.

GCN Live, Stream 4, 8 PM Eastern.

June 19, 5:37 p.m.

Originally Posted by Kent1

I'll have to listen to the whole thing when I get home later tonight, but this sounds almost EXACTLY like Barry Jennings story.
http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/e...rry_jennings_1
Also see the links provided by the research site

However the story has now changed to before either towers fell.
However the links tell a different story.

Here's a video of part of his story. I'll have to find the full video at a later time
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xwc9YtSduJc

What a staggeringly incompetent person Avery is.

defaultdotxbe · 25th September 2007, 06:42 AM

honestly i dont see what the problem is from dylans end

he wants to donate money to victims and first responders, but he also wants to fund the advancement of the truth movement (this is for appearances only, its ignores any personal greed)

the answer to both is willie rodriguez! he was there, so dylan gets the satisfaction of donating money to worthy individual, and willie will probably use the money for another speaking tour talking about explosions, its win-win

dylan says he got lemons and is making lemonade, seems to me he tossed the ripe lemons in the trash and is mixing up some kool-aid

DavidJames · 25th September 2007, 07:02 AM

Originally Posted by defaultdotxbe

honestly i dont see what the problem is from dylans end

I suspect WR's "compensation" is based on dylans wildly over inflated expectations of LC revenue, something dylan is all to aware of.

Gravy · 25th September 2007, 07:02 AM

Originally Posted by defaultdotxbe

dylan says he got lemons and is making lemonade, seems to me he tossed the ripe lemons in the trash and is mixing up some kool-aid

nicepants · 25th September 2007, 07:47 AM

Originally Posted by do-over-dylan

Call it anti-climactic. I call it us making lemonade out of lemons.

I think it's more like pouring lemon juice on a final...err...paper cut.

Rawkarma · 25th September 2007, 07:53 AM

Originally Posted by Revolutionary91@LCF

I agree, keep any more info you have on tight lockdown. ANd if people don;t like it, **** them it is for the better. EVerything 'bad' that has happened to the Final Cut has been due to open mouths. Any news you get keep it between you, and you alone.

When the government adopts the same attitude, it's a nefarious conspiracy.

How I love the hypocrisy of the 911 deniers.

JamesB · 25th September 2007, 08:05 AM

Originally Posted by boloboffin

Actually, Two And A Half Men is the first show since Friends to land a cash-plus-barter deal for their entire network run which isn't over yet. There is greeen in that thar two-bit sitcom.

But how can that be? According to Alex Jones Charlie Sheen was punished by the New World Order for speaking out about the truth of 9/11! Get me Spielberg on the phone!

nicepants · 25th September 2007, 08:06 AM

The bickering between Willie & the other truthers is definitely the best part of that thread. They're accusing Willie of being after money. Rawkarma said it best

Quote:

How I love the hypocrisy of the 911 deniers.

defaultdotxbe · 25th September 2007, 08:15 AM

Originally Posted by JamesB

Get me Spielberg on the phone!

i can get you his non-union mexican equivilent...

Pardalis · 25th September 2007, 08:22 AM

So Charlie Sheen is going to play Rodriguez in a movie?

It really is just about Willie isn't it?

"I am 9/11!"

Quote:

Wasn't Dylan, Jason and Korey out in Cali when you were schmoozing up Charlie Sheen and pitching him on movie ideas??

Indeed we were all there and I remember to be the one taking the pictures of Dylan and Charlie. Schoomooozing? hmmm , I will let Charlie answer that.
I do remember Jimmy Walter talking about it and Charlie agreeing that it will be great, an honor and also that he needed to work on his accent to sound more like me. Counting Jimmy was the financier of the project. I will ask Mr. Walters and will get back to you on this from his experience.

Drudgewire · 25th September 2007, 08:58 AM

Heeheeheeheeheeheeheeeeeeee!!

Horatius · 25th September 2007, 08:59 AM

Originally Posted by Rawkarma

When the government adopts the same attitude, it's a nefarious conspiracy.

How I love the hypocrisy of the 911 deniers.

I love thehighwaymanq's effort:

Quote:

Please everyone, stop asking about this release and what theaters and whose narration and everything. Let Dylan do his job, hes already busy enough

"Hey, would all you guys who are Just Asking Questions please stop asking questions?"

Now he know how we feel!

Alferd_Packer · 25th September 2007, 09:12 AM

Willie:

Quote:

I tried calling AJ and no success to "nip this on the but".

Willie nipping AJ in the but.

T.A.M. · 25th September 2007, 09:32 AM

William, why don't you, in a concise and logical fashion, explain the reasoning behind the decisions being discussed concerning your involvement with regards to Loose Change, and your take on what is going on over at the Loose Change Forum concerning this...give us your perspective.

Thanks.

TAM

CHF · 25th September 2007, 09:33 AM

Originally Posted by William_Rodriguez

nope, it is all about ****..isn't? careful there...

Hey Willy, how many WTC7 demolition witnesses can I get for $50?

Oh and I'd prefer some who haven't changed their story as much as you have. Thanks.

Pardalis · 25th September 2007, 09:34 AM

Oh, and Willie, I've reported you for divulging personal information.

25th September 2007, 12:36 AM	#1
ref Master Poster Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 2,685	Loose Change vs. William Rodriguez Get your popcorn. http://z10.invisionfree.com/Loose_Ch...howtopic=16305 It's about Dylan blaming William for leaking the information on Mark Cuban and Charlie Sheen deals. And William defending himself against these accusations. The latest from William: Originally Posted by William SO here we are in a turning point. If this is the way it is, I will then wish you well and continue my journey alone. Please fell free to cancel my membership. More popcorn, please. Waiting for the next posts.
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25th September 2007, 01:52 AM	#2
NickUK Critical Thinker Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Manchester, UK Posts: 498	Originally Posted by ref Get your popcorn. http://z10.invisionfree.com/Loose_Ch...howtopic=16305 It's about Dylan blaming William for leaking the information on Mark Cuban and Charlie Sheen deals. And William defending himself against these accusations. The latest from William: More popcorn, please. Waiting for the next posts. I'll be very annoyed if NWO kitty doesn't make an appearance on page 1 of this thread to explain all this to me...
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25th September 2007, 02:22 AM	#4
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25th September 2007, 02:25 AM	#5
boloboffin Guest Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 4,986	They dropped Rodriguez because of time constraints? The same reason they gave for dropping the missile pod theories? Right after Rodriguez decided to charge them for his interview and footage, seeing as how it was going to theaters? Oh, the [rule10] has well and truly hit the fan over in LC Land.
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25th September 2007, 02:44 AM	#6
Foolmewunz Grammar Resistance Leader TLA Dictator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Pattaya, Thailand Posts: 41,468	Originally Posted by gumboot Well frankly, if you nest with vipers you're going to get bit. -Gumboot Who's the nester and who's the nestee, though? Or do they take turns? How many times has it been said by how many people.... It's All About the Money!
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25th September 2007, 02:11 AM	#3
Undesired Walrus Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 11,691	Originally Posted by dylan Mark Cuban and Charlie Sheen Nobody was supposed to know about that until the time was right. Thanks to William Rodriguez telling the NY Post all about it, the deal with Cuban was sunk within a week, and Charlie still hasn't gotten back to us with feedback on the cut we sent him. He just got syndication of Two and a Half Men, so maybe that's what's more important. It's his life, not mine. WTC7 Witness Well, as usual, we tried doing the right thing and released a minute and a half of his interview under the explicit directions that we did not want to reveal his identity until the time was right. What happened? People started calling him at his job, and he got threatened with being fired. So, basically, we've tried our best to keep our mouths shut about things until it was right to say something. But, people decided that waiting wasn't good enough, so they needed answers immediately. And now, here we are, without a theater deal and without our WTC7 witness. So now we're releasing it independently, hopefully four-walling it into theaters ourselves. Call it anti-climactic. I call it us making lemonade out of lemons. You got what you deserved Do-Over.

25th September 2007, 02:47 AM	#7
Undesired Walrus Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 11,691	It is quite amusing how Charlie hasn't got back to Dylan because of 'syndication' for Two and a Half Men. If he keeps getting this hostile when things do not go his way, he will have no contacts, no friends, and no more movies. ETA: Quote: SHEEN COME THROUGH WE NEED YOU JUST DO THE NARRATION, WHEN THEY START WW3 YOULL REALIZE THAT 2 AND A HALF MEN WAS NOT THAT IMPORTANT, CMON GET ON BOARD AND SAVE THE REPUBLIC, HOPEFULLY ALEX JONES CAN CONVINCE YOU TO NARRATE. what comedy gold.
	Last edited by Undesired Walrus; 25th September 2007 at 02:52 AM.

25th September 2007, 03:12 AM	#8
8den Graduate Poster Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 1,293	Originally Posted by William Rodriguez In my case, I told them ( you ) that if this was going to be a movie release and not an internet effort, the rules of the game changes and that I, my organization should be compensated, in exchange I will give you the rights to the testimony and also unique exclusive videos of my 20 years working on the Towers. Finally, access to many of the eyewitnesses that are waiting to testify that were never interviewed before. Not a bad deal, isn't? Nice to see him lay it out for us in black and white. Love the carrot at the end of it.
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25th September 2007, 03:21 AM	#9
jsiv Illuminator Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 4,374	Originally Posted by Aiko So, you're selling witnesses, William? Worse than that, you're withholding the ones that were never interviewed before ... for money?! The truth isn't about getting "compensated." Dylan, Korey, and Bermas couldn't be more self-less with the movement. I hoped you would be like them in this matter. Forgive me, but you've lost my respect. Priceless.
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25th September 2007, 03:39 AM	#10
MarkyX Master Poster Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 2,157	Wow it's like William Rodriguez has become a pimp; selling people for services! Oh, Dylan.. Quote: Thanks to William Rodriguez telling the NY Post all about it, the deal with Cuban was sunk within a week I think ol' Dylan is forgetting that Mark Cuban contacted me after some people told him about Screw Loose Change. And I did mention a few things over an email to Mark Cuban and his buddy who phoned me. You want to know the biggest challenge with your film Dylan, according to what they told me? Copyright. As soon as I heard that word, I knew your pseudo-film wouldn't make it.
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25th September 2007, 03:51 AM	#11
Horatius NWO Kitty Wrangler Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 29,537	Quote: So, you're selling witnesses, William? Worse than that, you're withholding the ones that were never interviewed before ... for money?! The truth isn't about getting "compensated." Dylan, Korey, and Bermas couldn't be more self-less with the movement. I hoped you would be like them in this matter. Forgive me, but you've lost my respect. Weren't these the same people that were castigating us not so long ago for not respecting William? How much changes in such a short time!
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25th September 2007, 04:05 AM	#12
Horatius NWO Kitty Wrangler Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 29,537	Originally Posted by NickUK I'll be very annoyed if NWO kitty doesn't make an appearance on page 1 of this thread to explain all this to me...
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25th September 2007, 04:40 AM	#13
The Doc Curing Stupidity Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 2,158	That was the greatest thing I have ever read. This is all too hilarious.

25th September 2007, 04:43 AM	#14
nlarosa Scholar Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 72	Originally Posted by The Doc That was the greatest thing I have ever read. This is all too hilarious. Laff i agree
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25th September 2007, 04:45 AM	#15
defaultdotxbe Drunken Shikigami Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 7,474	arent the LC boys alwasy bragging about how much money they are going to give/have given to victims and first responders? doesnt rodriguez count as one or both of those? they should be more than willing to share their honey pot, but again, we see their true colors honestly i cant blame willie for wanting a cut of the profits
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25th September 2007, 04:55 AM	#16
NickUK Critical Thinker Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Manchester, UK Posts: 498	Originally Posted by Horatius http://static.stripgenerator.com/gen...-talk-more.png I knew the furry fella wouldn't let me down!
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25th September 2007, 05:02 AM	#17
SpaceMonkeyZero Graduate Poster Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 1,284	It's not like Rosie's doing anything these days except hawking her book about her breaking her own fingers for attention. I'm sure Dylan can sign her up for some excellent voice over work.
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25th September 2007, 05:05 AM	#18
Disbelief Illuminator Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 3,048	Originally Posted by SpaceMonkeyZero It's not like Rosie's doing anything these days except hawking her book about her breaking her own fingers for attention. I'm sure Dylan can sign her up for some excellent voice over work. No, they will use her for her typing skills and let her do the close captioning.
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25th September 2007, 05:39 AM	#19
CHF Illuminator Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 3,871	So Willy Rod was in it for money all along? I'm stunned! Stunned I tell ya! No theater, no Charlie, no Willy. What a lovely day
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25th September 2007, 05:43 AM	#20
Foolmewunz Grammar Resistance Leader TLA Dictator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Pattaya, Thailand Posts: 41,468	What I enjoyed was the comment from Dylan about having to go to four-wall deals. This is when the film is such a turkey that no one will show it. You basically get the ticket income, and you pay the owners for the space. But the theatre or cineplex keeps the real juice - the concession stand revenues. (Altough I don't know if they sell rolling papers.) In short, no one with a dime's worth of commercial sense wants to go near this thing. If they could barely get 300 people (and remember, that includes mommies) to their over-hyped preview edition in the midst of Truthstock, how many people are they going to get to go to a cinema and pay ten bucks? Especially since it's just a new improved rehashing of the other eleventy-seven versions.
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25th September 2007, 05:51 AM	#21
Gravy Downsitting Citizen Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 17,078	Oh, my. I guess if you stay in the sandbox too long it becomes a litterbox. Final Cut Pro this ain't.
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25th September 2007, 06:00 AM	#22
Undesired Walrus Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 11,691	What strikes me as fascinating is how Dylan will blame anybody but himself. What is also strange is how vocal he is about the utter failure of the film and Sheen shunning them for a 2-bit sitcom.

25th September 2007, 06:07 AM	#23
boloboffin Guest Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 4,986	Originally Posted by Undesired Walrus What strikes me as fascinating is how Dylan will blame anybody but himself. What is also strange is how vocal he is about the utter failure of the film and Sheen shunning them for a 2-bit sitcom. Actually, Two And A Half Men is the first show since Friends to land a cash-plus-barter deal for their entire network run which isn't over yet. There is greeen in that thar two-bit sitcom.
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25th September 2007, 06:09 AM	#24
CHF Illuminator Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 3,871	Originally Posted by A Quiet Friend Well, I'm sure that the movie is great and all but... it could go the way you describe OR you could get a spineless judge who caves to pressure and decides that because Charlie has aligned himself with a bunch of nutjobs - that's us ... then he shouldn't be left alone with the kids because he's a dangerous person... blah, blah, blah... I would hope that that sort of thing would never happen but I could see some lunatic in the court system trying to be a tough guy. Yeah I'm sure ol' Charlie took that into consideration. Who wouldn't? It's easy to be a twoofer when you're a single white male...not so easy when you gotta appear sane enough to still see your kids.
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25th September 2007, 06:17 AM	#25
Gravy Downsitting Citizen Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 17,078	Originally Posted by Do Over WTC7 Witness Well, as usual, we tried doing the right thing and released a minute and a half of his interview under the explicit directions that we did not want to reveal his identity until the time was right. What happened? People started calling him at his job, and he got threatened with being fired. Its unbelievable that Avery blames others for revealing who his WTC 7 witness was. AVERY put the guy's story on the air, with many of the same details that we've read in the press and the NIST report, and quotes from the Avery interview appeared at Prisonplanet. June 18: Originally Posted by Do Over Tomorrow on LTW Radio we're gonna broadcast clips from an interview we conducted last Tuesday before we headed to Bonnaroo. Btw, many many thanks to Travis of SCI for hooking us up. You've seen him before, in a news interview widely disseminated on the web, but you've never heard from him since. Until now. He was working in WTC7 on 9/11. And he saw and experienced things that drive a giant nail through the coffin of the official story. GCN Live, Stream 4, 8 PM Eastern. June 19, 5:37 p.m. Originally Posted by Kent1 I'll have to listen to the whole thing when I get home later tonight, but this sounds almost EXACTLY like Barry Jennings story. http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/e...rry_jennings_1 Also see the links provided by the research site However the story has now changed to before either towers fell. However the links tell a different story. Here's a video of part of his story. I'll have to find the full video at a later time http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xwc9YtSduJc What a staggeringly incompetent person Avery is.
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25th September 2007, 06:42 AM	#26
defaultdotxbe Drunken Shikigami Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 7,474	honestly i dont see what the problem is from dylans end he wants to donate money to victims and first responders, but he also wants to fund the advancement of the truth movement (this is for appearances only, its ignores any personal greed) the answer to both is willie rodriguez! he was there, so dylan gets the satisfaction of donating money to worthy individual, and willie will probably use the money for another speaking tour talking about explosions, its win-win dylan says he got lemons and is making lemonade, seems to me he tossed the ripe lemons in the trash and is mixing up some kool-aid
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25th September 2007, 07:02 AM	#27
DavidJames Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Front Range, CO Posts: 10,493	Originally Posted by defaultdotxbe honestly i dont see what the problem is from dylans end I suspect WR's "compensation" is based on dylans wildly over inflated expectations of LC revenue, something dylan is all to aware of.
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25th September 2007, 07:47 AM	#29
nicepants Graduate Poster Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 1,723	Originally Posted by do-over-dylan Call it anti-climactic. I call it us making lemonade out of lemons. I think it's more like pouring lemon juice on a final...err...paper cut.
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25th September 2007, 07:53 AM	#30
Rawkarma Thinker Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 155	Originally Posted by Revolutionary91@LCF I agree, keep any more info you have on tight lockdown. ANd if people don;t like it, **** them it is for the better. EVerything 'bad' that has happened to the Final Cut has been due to open mouths. Any news you get keep it between you, and you alone. When the government adopts the same attitude, it's a nefarious conspiracy. How I love the hypocrisy of the 911 deniers.
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25th September 2007, 08:05 AM	#31
JamesB Master Poster Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 2,152	Originally Posted by boloboffin Actually, Two And A Half Men is the first show since Friends to land a cash-plus-barter deal for their entire network run which isn't over yet. There is greeen in that thar two-bit sitcom. But how can that be? According to Alex Jones Charlie Sheen was punished by the New World Order for speaking out about the truth of 9/11! Get me Spielberg on the phone!
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25th September 2007, 08:06 AM	#32
nicepants Graduate Poster Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 1,723	The bickering between Willie & the other truthers is definitely the best part of that thread. They're accusing Willie of being after money. Rawkarma said it best Quote: How I love the hypocrisy of the 911 deniers.
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25th September 2007, 08:15 AM	#33
defaultdotxbe Drunken Shikigami Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 7,474	Originally Posted by JamesB Get me Spielberg on the phone! i can get you his non-union mexican equivilent...
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25th September 2007, 08:22 AM	#34
Pardalis Banned Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 25,817	So Charlie Sheen is going to play Rodriguez in a movie? It really is just about Willie isn't it? "I am 9/11!" Quote: Quote: Wasn't Dylan, Jason and Korey out in Cali when you were schmoozing up Charlie Sheen and pitching him on movie ideas?? Indeed we were all there and I remember to be the one taking the pictures of Dylan and Charlie. Schoomooozing? hmmm , I will let Charlie answer that. I do remember Jimmy Walter talking about it and Charlie agreeing that it will be great, an honor and also that he needed to work on his accent to sound more like me. Counting Jimmy was the financier of the project. I will ask Mr. Walters and will get back to you on this from his experience.
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25th September 2007, 08:58 AM	#35
Drudgewire Critical Doofus Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 9,421	Heeheeheeheeheeheeheeeeeeee!!
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25th September 2007, 08:59 AM	#36
Horatius NWO Kitty Wrangler Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 29,537	Originally Posted by Rawkarma When the government adopts the same attitude, it's a nefarious conspiracy. How I love the hypocrisy of the 911 deniers. I love thehighwaymanq's effort: Quote: Please everyone, stop asking about this release and what theaters and whose narration and everything. Let Dylan do his job, hes already busy enough "Hey, would all you guys who are Just Asking Questions please stop asking questions?" Now he know how we feel!
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