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Old 21st November 2007, 09:58 AM   #1
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Ron Paul on Alex Jones today

Kind of Politics but Alex Jones is involved. Too bad I am Traveling today and won't be able to hear what the nut has to discuss with Congressman Paul. The fact that Paul is actively courting the fringe groups means to me that his campaign is destined to implode the more popular and mainstream he becomes. But for now I am content to sit back and watch the show.
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Old 21st November 2007, 10:02 AM   #2
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The fact that Paul is actively courting the fringe groups means to me that his campaign is destined to implode the more popular and mainstream he becomes.
I tend to agree. Ron Paul should know who Alex Jones is by now, and what he represents. There's no excuse now.
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I was wondering who was going to put the final nail in the coffin of that campaign. Should have known it would be Ron himself.

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Hopefully he goes on record on his show stateing he doesn't think it's an inside job. I wonder how Jones would react. Paul is a smart guy, and can probably debate him.
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Old 21st November 2007, 11:03 AM   #6
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The Congressman has been on Jones's show before. Someone from his campaign, Jesse Benton I think, talks to the show about once a week. Of course Paul knows who Alex Jones is. It is the fact that he is courting the crazies that turns me off to him the most. I doubt that 911 will ever come up, Jones tends to tone down particular theories depending on who he is talking to. I predict is will be about the Liberty Dollar seizure, The War, the Federal Reserve and the Plunging dollar. Not too far in the realm of lunacy but far enough in to appeal to Jones's audience.
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Hopefully he goes on record on his show stateing he doesn't think it's an inside job. I wonder how Jones would react. Paul is a smart guy, and can probably debate him.
He is on record on this issue. Someone asked him if he believed 911 was an inside job and his response was "Absolutely Not".

Most of the CFs over at LCF assumed he was just lying by saying that so he could get elected, then he could launch a new investigation.
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Old 21st November 2007, 12:56 PM   #8
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jhc...well not that I thought he had a chance anyway...If MSM gets a hold of this, and what Alex Jones is all about, I am guessing RP will be done for.

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Old 21st November 2007, 01:35 PM   #9
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Most of the CFs over at LCF assumed he was just lying by saying that so he could get elected, then he could launch a new investigation.
Yeah. Funny how these are the guys who claim they just want our elected officials to be honest with us.
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Old 21st November 2007, 02:08 PM   #10
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Hopefully he goes on record on his show stateing he doesn't think it's an inside job. I wonder how Jones would react. Paul is a smart guy, and can probably debate him.
The weasel answer to that is pretty simple, along the lines of:

"I know a lot of people believe that, and while I haven't looked at their evidence in detail, there certainly are a lot of unanswered questions about 9/11 and we certainly need an honest and thorough investigation instead of a cover up."

Truthers generally take a statement like that as meaning the speaker is 'one of us'. Anyone vaguely suggesting that the Bush administration wasn't forthcoming about its failure to take action prior to 9/11 is understood by truthers to mean that the speaker believes it to be an "inside job". This is the basis of the bulk of sites like Patriots Question 9/11, for example.
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Old 21st November 2007, 02:15 PM   #11
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The last time I heard Jones on Coast to Coast, he stated that he has known RP for 14 years, and he had just finished having dinner with him.

This is nothing new.
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Youtube this now now now!!!

ETA: I have a feeling this is Game Over for our good buddy Ron.

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ETA: I have a feeling this is Game Over for our good buddy Ron.
Outside of the Internet, the game never really started.
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Ron Paul has always been on board with Jones on the Federal Reserve. He is probably more after the single-issue people who want the Fed abolished, but, if he can pick up a few useful idiots, why not? Jones and RP are both playing on people's fears. It's a basic strategy among the tin-foilers and white nationalists, which is another block of voters that RP needs to tap, albeit discretely. His states' rights position would be a boon to those who want to undo a lot of civil rights laws at the federal level.
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Ron Paul has always been on board with Jones on the Federal Reserve. He is probably more after the single-issue people who want the Fed abolished, but, if he can pick up a few useful idiots, why not? Jones and RP are both playing on people's fears. It's a basic strategy among the tin-foilers and white nationalists, which is another block of voters that RP needs to tap, albeit discretely. His states' rights position would be a boon to those who want to undo a lot of civil rights laws at the federal level.
As you state, they use people's fears to further their respective causes. Jones also says that the government instills fear into the public through choreographed events, since fear equals control. I sense some irony here.
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I have yet to decide who I would vote for in 2008. I do know the one person I will not vote for, Ron Paul.
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Gave it some visibility here.
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Gave it some visibility here.
I love the Jawa Report, but that webpage snapshot made my eyes hurt!
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So I think some people yesterday saw my Jawa Report post and said adios to Dr. Paul:

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For some more pandering to the Troofers and other conspiracy theorist whackjobs. I’ll listen for anything of note, but as of now, I’m done with Ron Paul.

The Ron Paul campaign has unfortunately become a gathering place for 9/11 “Truther” morons, racists, neo-Nazis, Southern secessionists, fascists, conspiracy theorists, wannabe authoritarians, Birchers, and nativists that I do not want to be associated with. Worst of all, the candidate himself knows about these err….outside of the mainstream supporters and he refuses to publically repudiate them and refund the donations from the most high profile ones. (No Lew, I’m not calling for Ron Paul to do background checks on all of his supporters, just refuse the donations from the high profile scumbags). If a candidate thinks its alright to make common cause with these people, especially one who is running a “principled” campaign on restoring liberty, than I have to question his conscience for aligning with these people at best and question his ability to lead at worst. I’ve come to the conclusion that a Ron Paul candidacy unless he repudiates these people who do not share the belief in liberty, will harm the overall freedom movement by giving the impression to the American people that “freedom” and “liberty” are just code words for fascism, racism, and conspiracy mongering like the “New World Order” and the “North American Union”.
The precedent is there. Ron Paul needs to follow it for entire freedom movement’s sake.


Until then, this classical liberal is not a part of the Ron Paul Revolution.
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A day after finally coming out with guns a-blazin' to discredit the whackjob fringe of his supporters, Ron Paul makes a return to Alex Jones' radio show. As a result, at least one fence-sitter has given up on him. As has been argued time and again, the problem isn't so much that whack-jobs happen to support Ron Paul; the problem is that he has no problem wasting his time actively recruiting them into his movement. If he didn't waste time doing that, he wouldn't have to waste time explaining why he wasted time with them in the first place....not to mention the fact that just about every true libertarian would have jumped off the fence to support him at this point.

As usual, I know that this post is going to get me slammed by the "Rockwell Brigades," who will most likely mistake me for a shill for Giuliani (now apparently named "Benito"). Of course, this will ignore the fact that I've been actively supporting Rep. Paul for months, and that my goal all along has been to persuade the other supporters that they might want to realize that the libertarian movement is much bigger than one man, and that a rationally-based campaign is the only way to get him out of the single-digits.

Alas, the personality cult of Ron Paul continues to grow, while the core philosophy of libertarianism becomes less and less important to the "netroots." In his interview with Jay Leno, Rep. Paul pointed out that his message is a simple message that isn't really his; indeed, IIRC he pointed out that while he is personally not perfect, freedom is. Well, now that the Ron Paul movement has started to hit the mainstream, making appeals for money to people who have no understanding of the word "freedom" hurts rather than hinders the freedom message (not to mention the campaign more generally).

I am trying to listen to the rebroadcast right now, but unless he is appearing for the purpose of disavowing Jones (so far, not so good), just about anything he could say to Jones at this point makes me sick. For the record- as someone who watched the Pentagon burn, and heard the Pentagon plane flying over my apartment less than a mile from the crash site- any deliberate attempt to court support from those who deny what happened that day is personally insulting to me.

But to go a step further. Plenty of commenters, myself included, have pointed out that Ron Paul could either be the best or worst thing to happen to libertarianism in decades. In order for him to be good for libertarianism (and for that matter, the country), he has to either win or, more likely, make people think. Continuing to seek out the support of 9/11 Truthers and nutcases is the surest way to ensure that his appeal remains exceedingly limited and to ensure that libertarianism as a philosophy becomes irreparably associated with these nutcases. In other words- actively seeking out the support of these people hurts both the Paul campaign and the libertarian philosophy more generally.

What make this worse is that it shows Paul's priorities- he would rather spend time chasing the votes and support of a tiny number of 9/11 Truthers than chasing the votes and support of the millions of libertarians, disillusioned Republicans, and disillusioned Democrats. It's simple math, really: he has limited resources. Why spend those limited resources on a small group of whack-jobs than on a large group of people who have been hungry for a politician speaking the language of freedom ever since Reagan left office?

I sincerely hope that what he said tonight was strong and indisputable against the 9/11 Truthers. If it wasn't, I am going to need some serious convincing to return to the Paul camp. My support will either go to Obama, Thompson, or, just as likely, no one at all.

Will update once I've heard the substance of Paul's interview. So far, this is the most tedious and intellectually barren 22 minutes of radio I've ever heard (the interview hasn't come up yet)- and I used to listen to Rush!
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Good deal. Two defections is alright with me. Since he has only fringe support, every vote he loses will hurt him.

Keep up the quest for TROOF, Dr. Paul!
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Old 22nd November 2007, 08:40 AM   #21
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What was Ron Paul's position on the Luciferians that are will take over the entire planet by late next year?
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Old 22nd November 2007, 01:39 PM   #22
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The Congressman has been on Jones's show before. Someone from his campaign, Jesse Benton I think, talks to the show about once a week. Of course Paul knows who Alex Jones is. It is the fact that he is courting the crazies that turns me off to him the most. I doubt that 911 will ever come up, Jones tends to tone down particular theories depending on who he is talking to. I predict is will be about the Liberty Dollar seizure, The War, the Federal Reserve and the Plunging dollar. Not too far in the realm of lunacy but far enough in to appeal to Jones's audience.

Get it through all your heads already Ron Paul courts to everyone and not anyone!!! He treats everyone the same and wont disregard you because of your dam beliefs. The man believes in civil liberties and god given rights with equality and that everyman has been given the right to free speech and expression of ones mind!

What kind of hypocrite would Ron Paul be if he stated he believed all these things (Liberties) but then refused to appear on someones show because of what they believed (Conspiracy's)!
Most of you will never understand because your to involved with trying to appear politically correct instead of actually being politically correct!

Alex Jones is a man!
A man born of this country!
A Man born with liberties and rights this country has promised for him!
And a man who supports Ron Pauls message!
Alex Jones personal beliefs have nothing to do with Ron Paul and for you to judge Ron Paul based on what Alex believes is stupid of this community!

YOu guys link Alex Jones to 9/11 retard conspiracy's which is infact what the man believes, but is not the mans life! It is but of one portion!

Alex Jones weather you like him or not agree with him or dont is a man who believes in civil liberties, the constitution, the bill of rights and all the ideals Ron Paul stands for!

Here is a quote from his page infowars:
"As featured in such publications as The Wall Street Journal, USA Today, The Dallas Morning News, The Los Angeles Times, The Austin-American Statesman, and The Austin Chronicle, Alex Jones has created a powerful platform in an attempt to re-create a Bill of Rights, freedom-orientated culture in the face of an ever more federalized and security-obsessed America."

Ron Paul believes in liberty for all, and not liberty for everyone except those who believe in stupid conspiracy theories. Or those that the James Randi Educational Foundation might find as far fetched!
FREEDOM FOR ALL!!!

Like i said you guys would rather appear good to the majority then to actually be good to everyone! Ron Paul will not turn away from anyone who believes his message no matter how bad they might look to everyone else!!!

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Get it through all your heads already Ron Paul courts to everyone and not anyone!!! He treats everyone the same and wont disregard you because of your dam beliefs. The man believes in civil liberties and god given rights with equality and that everyman has been given the right to free speech and expression of ones mind!

What kind of hypocrite would Ron Paul be if he stated he believed all these things (Liberties) but then refused to appear on someones show because of what they believed (Conspiracy's)!
Most of you will never understand because your to involved with trying to appear politically correct instead of actually being politically correct!

Alex Jones is a man!
Let us concede, for the sake of argument, that Alex Jones is a man, and per se not unworthy of Ron Paul's attention.

While I applaud your egalitarian sympathies, I would point out that at the last count your great and free republic had a population of around three hundred million, of whom around two hundred million are entitled to vote.

Were Congressman Paul to spend a mere fifteen minutes discussing his ideas with each of the elctorate, working twenty-four hours a day, every day, then his task would be complete sometime in the seventy-eighth century Anno Domini.

It follows that the good Congressman is obliged to be rather selective in his choice of interlocutors, and so one has to wonder at his judgement in lavishing so much of his time on a freakin' grade-A loon from Cuckooville.
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That's it. Between this and Ron Paul's vowed opposition to alleged "secularism", I can't see myself voting for him.
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YOu guys link Alex Jones to 9/11 retard conspiracy's which is infact what the man believes, but is not the mans life! It is but of one portion!
Yes and the other portions are taken up with Luceferian, Moloch worshiping, federal reserve using, Child sacrificing masons.
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Except for the part of the Constitution that authorizes an income tax.
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What kind of hypocrite would Ron Paul be if he stated he believed all these things (Liberties) but then refused to appear on someones show because of what they believed (Conspiracy's)!
So... anyone not appearing on Alex Jones's show is violating his civil liberties?
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The man believes in civil liberties and god given rights with equality and that everyman has been given the right to free speech and expression of ones mind!
If he believes in civil liberties and rights and equality then he should not be accepting the support of people who believe in denying the civil liberties of others.
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Let us concede, for the sake of argument, that Alex Jones is a man, and per se not unworthy of Ron Paul's attention.

While I applaud your egalitarian sympathies, I would point out that at the last count your great and free republic had a population of around three hundred million, of whom around two hundred million are entitled to vote.

Were Congressman Paul to spend a mere fifteen minutes discussing his ideas with each of the elctorate, working twenty-four hours a day, every day, then his task would be complete sometime in the seventy-eighth century Anno Domini.

It follows that the good Congressman is obliged to be rather selective in his choice of interlocutors, and so one has to wonder at his judgement in lavishing so much of his time on a freakin' grade-A loon from Cuckooville.
Ergo: The wise man doesn't wear waders in order to protect himself from the mud. The wise man avoids the mud so that he can wear normal clothes.

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