Award winning documentary says AIDS in Africa is caused by the backwards culture

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Sorious Samura, the Bafta award-winning documentary maker from Sierra Leone has made a documentary to try and find out why Aids was destroying his continent and after speaking to a number men came to realise that sexual attitudes played a huge role.

He went further last night, saying that in the pervasive culture, where children start having sex at five, six or seven, 'success [for men] is measured by the number of women they sleep around with' and women 'were disempowered'.

Samura said that many of the youngsters would copy their parents. 'I was hooked on the game of practising what I saw,' he said. 'We used to call the game Mum and Dad. I started having sex when I was seven.'

According to Samura, Africans have to face up to this if there is any hope for the future.

His stand is controversial; he is pointing the finger at the victims themselves. But he said he was not afraid to make such comments because of the horrifying statistics. 'There are 6,000 people dying every day,' he said. 'That is twice those who died in 9/11.' He also pointed to the 26 million Africans who have died from Aids, the same number who are living with it and more than 11 million children who had been orphaned by it. Zambia is not one of the worst hit countries, yet one in five of its people are infected.

http://observer.guardian.co.uk/international/story/0,6903,1509754,00.html

Didn't the king of Lesotho just take his 12th wife? I heard she is half his age.
 
is this a shock? who is supposed to be blamed? A secret CIA lab? The Jews?
 
is this a shock? who is supposed to be blamed? A secret CIA lab? The Jews?

It'll be a shock to your groin when you have the nerve to go out in public and yell 'African culture is backwards' and get a swift kick where it counts.
 
jay gw said:
It'll be a shock to your groin when you have the nerve to go out in public and yell 'African culture is backwards' and get a swift kick where it counts.

Errrr......it pretty much is, isn't it? Are you suggesting that we should ignore this because of the threat of physical violence? Charming. Backward and violent.
 
Are you suggesting that we should ignore this because of the threat of physical violence? Charming. Backward and violent.

Wow what a misinterpretation. In case you haven't noticed, Whites like you in the form of aid workers criticizing Africans has been politiquement ne pas corriger. I wonder how many times Bob "funkyhair" Geldof has mentioned that "hey you have problems because you **** too much without condoms."

Yes, I'm sure I've heard it from him...
 
jay gw said:
His stand is controversial; he is pointing the finger at the victims themselves.

This is applicable far beyond just Africa. We understand very well how AIDS is transmitted. And those transmission methods are, quite frankly, EASY to avoid. Almost every adult who gets infected in a first-world country did so doing something they knew was risky. Yeah, I suppose you could call it blaming the victim. Same way the Darwin awards blame the victim.

Africa is a little more complicated, because education there is so poor that many people don't understand what is and isn't risky behavior. But that just shifts the question to why is education about AIDS so bad? And that, too, has a lot to do with tribal culture that doesn't respect women or value education. Africa cannot fix, or even ameliorate, their AIDS problem until they accept responsibility for it themselves. Unlike other diseases like malaria, AIDS can be stopped completely just by the decisions that individuals make. No massive infrastructure is needed, no high-tech medicines or fancy hospitals are required. Just the will to do it. There is no excuse for failure.
 
jay gw said:
Wow what a misinterpretation. In case you haven't noticed, Whites like you in the form of aid workers criticizing Africans has been politiquement ne pas corriger. I wonder how many times Bob "funkyhair" Geldof has mentioned that "hey you have problems because you **** too much without condoms."

Yes, I'm sure I've heard it from him...

Forgot, you are the racist guy. Nevermind.

ps. Geldorf is right.
 
jay gw said:
Wow what a misinterpretation. In case you haven't noticed, Whites like you...

I think he did misunderstand you. But take it easy. How do you even know he's white? That kind of presumption, correct or not, is likely to rile people when there really isn't a reason for it.
 
jay gw said:
He almost always does so I don't know why I became agitated, silly me.

I do too. Mostly because you so often tend to spin the titles you give you posts.

So, state your opinion on the matter more clearly and stop spinning. Then others will not misunderstand you so much.
 
jay gw said:
He almost always does so I don't know why I became agitated, silly me.

Yes I do but I am African American. That provides a free pass, dosen't it?
 
Re: Re: Award winning documentary says AIDS in Africa is caused by the backwards cult

Ziggurat said:
This is applicable far beyond just Africa. We understand very well how AIDS is transmitted. And those transmission methods are, quite frankly, EASY to avoid. Almost every adult who gets infected in a first-world country did so doing something they knew was risky. Yeah, I suppose you could call it blaming the victim. Same way the Darwin awards blame the victim.
Sadly many of the victims are victims because they were raped. As I understand there is a myth that sex with a virgin can cure someone of aids.

In any event, the best hope these individuals have is to face the truth. Diplomacy and political corectness will only further the epidemic.
 
Rob Lister said:
I do too. Mostly because you so often tend to spin the titles you give you posts.

So, state your opinion on the matter more clearly and stop spinning. Then others will not misunderstand you so much.

Indeed.
 
Yes I do but I am African American. That provides a free pass, dosen't it?

Well, if "free pass" means explaining why no African American has ever criticized Africa's Aids epidemic and culture, then I guess it's a pass.

How interesting that "African" Americans who insist on being called that have done almost nothing for Africans while the aid money and the awareness comes from somebody like Bob Geldof, who's White and Irish.
 
jay gw said:
Well, if "free pass" means explaining why no African American has ever criticized Africa's Aids epidemic and culture, then I guess it's a pass.

How interesting that "African" Americans who insist on being called that have done almost nothing for Africans while the aid money and the awareness comes from somebody like Bob Geldof, who's White and Irish.

African Americans maybe should change their title to Liar Idiotic Hypocrite Americans, but it doesn't have that ethnic ring to it.

I'm just quoting that as you wrote it so that others may refer to it should you decide to edit it 'away'.
 
Yes I do but I am African American. That provides a free pass, dosen't it?

Of course it does! Nothing you ever do is ever your fault. It's all due to the "history of racism and colonialism" and the "racist enviorment"'s fault.

Just like children and retarded people are not fully responsible for their actions, and their misdeeds are the fault of those superior persons who should have taken better care of them.

Which is why if you rob me of my wallet, say, I am quite likely to forgive you: you're only a darkie, after all, and cannot be expected to behave like civilized white people.

Hey, nobody ever said patronizing racism doesn't have its own advantages to those who are its targets, as Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson know.

After all, aren't these two the unofficial presidents of black America? True, nobody ever elected them and they are not much more than self-important self-promoters.

But many people accept them as legitimate nonetheless--after all, we all know what those darkies are like; they are simple-minded fools who don't mind if some unelected twerp makes himself their unofficial king.
 
jay gw said:
African Americans maybe should change their title to Liar Idiotic Hypocrite Americans, but it doesn't have that ethnic ring to it.

I was willing to give you the benefit of the doubt before, that you were being scathing but not actually racist. But I was wrong. No, I'm afraid you are a complete and absolute waste of human flesh, a running sore shaped like a person. And I say that as someone who agrees with everything Samura said in the article you linked to.
 
How interesting that "African" Americans who insist on being called that have done almost nothing for Africans while the aid money and the awareness comes from somebody like Bob Geldof, who's White and Irish.

And whom you called a racist for not having enough darker-skinned people in a benefit concert he did for Africa.

Apparently you seem to think people should stick to "their own kind", based solely on skin color: heaven forbid that black Americans care more about other poor Americans than about people in Africa, or that a white guy want to help starving black people.

That's so... disgusting. If such improper fraternization continues, next thing you know, white and black people will be sharing water fountains and riding the same buses.
 
I was willing to give you the benefit of the doubt before, that you were being scathing but not actually racist. But I was wrong. No, I'm afraid you are a

Blah blah blah, put me on ignore if you can't face the truth that no matter how many "African" American multimillionaires America has produced, the rappers, the athletes, the business rich, the problems in Africa are no better. They're in fact worse. Funny how much loyalty those "African" Americans have, isn't it?

heaven forbid that black Americans care more about other poor Americans than about people in Africa, or that a white guy want to help starving black people.

Oh wow, Black Americans care about poor American white trash? Examples, and I want the links and they are to be from reputable sources ONLY otherwise don't waste my time. You may use charity statistics, inspirational "anecdotes" or other information to support what in my opinion are absolutely idiotic statements.
 
Ed said:
is this a shock? who is supposed to be blamed? A secret CIA lab? The Jews?

That was your question and here is the answer that you received:

Originally posted by jay gw
Africa gets worse every year. But don't count on the Will Smiths, Jay Zs, Samuel L. Jacksons, NBA, NFL, Tiger Woods of America, you know those proud "African" Americans to get off their fat lazy ass and do anything.
You see, the blame doesn't go to infected individuals who rape virgins or married men who use the services of prostitutes.

The answer seems to be a racist version of "make the rich pay."
 

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