U.S. Marines may face murder charges over killings in Iraq

Orwell said:
With "friends" like this, the Iraqis sure as hell don't need enemies...
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Riiiiiiiiiiiight ... as I'm sure terrorists that deliberately kill women and children in Iraq (and elsewhere) are right up there prosecuting those that step out of line.
 
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The iraqi will become more hostile towards Americans being in iraq with news like this.

You've got alot of rednecks joining the military just to kill people..And when they don't get a chance in normal circumstances..they do it anyway! They don't think of it as a Job and have empathy towards people they kill..They get a rush out of it and enjoy killing people. These types of people should never be in the military because they are more likely to ignore orders and break the law.
 
Dustin said:
The iraqi will become more hostile towards Americans being in iraq with news like this.

You've got alot of rednecks joining the military just to kill people..And when they don't get a chance in normal circumstances..they do it anyway! They don't think of it as a Job and have empathy towards people they kill..They get a rush out of it and enjoy killing people. These types of people should never be in the military because they are more likely to ignore orders and break the law.
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WOW!

Dr Adequate says people like you dont exist
 
Haditha Massacre: KR Reporter, Last August, Noted Worries There That U.S. Marines Might 'Crack'
Tom Lasseter

By Greg Mitchell

Published: May 28, 2006 12:50 PM ET

NEW YORK New revelations suggest that U.S. marines committed atrocities in Haditha, Iraq, last November, killing at least two dozen civilians after an American was slain by a roadside bomb. Three months before that, Tom Lasseter, longtime Baghdad correspondent for Knight Ridder, filed a report from that area noting concerns that the marines there might "crack under the pressure."

http://editorandpublisher.com/eandp/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1002576997&imw=Y
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Actually, I'm surprised that there aren't more similar incidents considering the difficult situation(s) that our leadership has put the troups in. Hopefully, the backlash from the region (Iraq and the rest of the Middle East) isn't too severe.
 
joe1347 said:
Actually, I'm surprised that there aren't more similar incidents considering the difficult situation(s) that our leadership has put the troups in. Hopefully, the backlash from the region (Iraq and the rest of the Middle East) isn't too severe.
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There probaly are more situations like that, The media just doesn't know about it.


And don't worry about the mooslems rioting over this. They care more about cartoons of muhammed than they do about their own people dying.
 
Dustin said:
You've got alot of rednecks joining the military just to kill people..And when they don't get a chance in normal circumstances..they do it anyway! They don't think of it as a Job and have empathy towards people they kill..They get a rush out of it and enjoy killing people.
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Wow - a bona fide mind reader. Have you filled out your Million Dollar Challenge application yet? I think a remote reading that is accurate over 5000 miles should be fairly easy to test.

I think you should go for it.
 
Cylinder said:
Wow - a bona fide mind reader. Have you filled out your Million Dollar Challenge application yet? I think a remote reading that is accurate over 5000 miles should be fairly easy to test.

I think you should go for it.
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Personal experience. I know atleast 40 people personally who are currently in Iraq. I know the mentality some of them have. They think war is like it is in the video games. They didn't join up because they needed to pay for college or because they care about the cause. They did it to shoot big guns, drive big vehicles...and kill people.

It doesn't take supernatural powers to know someone joined the military for these reasons when they SAY they joined the military for these reasons!

I didn't say this was the case in this case...But I am saying it's a good possibility.
 
Just thinking said:
Riiiiiiiiiiiight ... as I'm sure terrorists that deliberately kill women and children in Iraq (and elsewhere) are right up there prosecuting those that step out of line.
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Oh damn, you're right, how silly of me! Those Iraqis the US is "protecting" will surely drop down to their knees and thank the US Army for prosecuting those Marines! :rolleyes:
 
Only anti-american zealots would think that any person would join the US Military for any reason that's not noble and just. All soldiers in the US Military are there to help the people in Iraq. To claim that any soldier joined just because they think killing people would be fun is insane. People only like killing other people in videogames and movies.
 
All this negative talk just helps the insurgents. We have to keep reminding ourselves that we may have to kill a few Iraqis in order to save them ...

Charlie (take it up with George W if you have a problem) Monoxide
 
Their expectations of the US must be pretty low by now. I doubt this atrocity (war crime?) will be a huge surprise to them, nor make much difference in how they already feel. They already hate us.

On the bright side, we share a common goal with the insurgents:

They want us out.
We want out.
 
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No - but it does take evidence. Got any?
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The Marines kill people, it's what they do. It's reasonable to conclude that some people might join the marines so that they can kill. Especially when a high-ranking marine officers advertises that it's an enjoyable experience:

“Actually it’s quite fun to fight ‘em, you know. It’s a hell of a hoot. It’s fun to shoot some people. I’ll be right up front with you, I like brawling,”

http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?page=story_5-2-2005_pg7_59
 
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Sadly, this is exactly the kind of thing that happens in war, especially occupation type wars.

Because it is very likely that these kind of events will occur, the decision to occupy a country needs to have very significant benefits to justify the problems that will inevitably occur as the result of the occupation.

I am not sure the Bush administration has such justification for this occupation. We are constantly told that we need to be there to maintain order otherwise the Iraq would devolve into a big mess. We are told that when the Iraqi police and soldier training is completed the allied forces will be removed and Iraq will be stabilized.

I am not convinced. The Iraqis had police before the alliance was there. The Iraqis had soldiers before the alliance was there. Will training police and soldiers make them less likely to take sides in a civil war?

Bushco has used the Iraq war as an excuse to enrich its corporate buddies. Will an administration that has acted with such cold corruption be capable and willing to sort out the issues in this conflict to make the best decisions for the Iraqis and the occupying allies? I have very little confidence that they can and I have concern that they are willing to expend the lives of soldiers to to cover up their incompetence and corruption.
 
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