For ***, stop using ActiveX where it isn't needed!!!

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In general, this isn't a problem, but why oh why would you use ActiveX, not warn non-IE users, and use it for something as simple as showing 4-6 extra pictures on a webpage?!

Cmon, Hercules Flooring, I wanted to see the colors and now you've disappointed me.
 
ActiveX or Java Applets used to be the lazy-man's way of offering neat interactive features on Websites..

Now look at what they can do, WITHOUT relying on Active or Java: Sites like Gmail and Flickr. Amazing stuff!
 
I just cannot figure out what *** stands for in the OP title?

And, as another aside, what prompted this thread?
 
Ripley Twenty-Nine said:
ActiveX or Java Applets used to be the lazy-man's way of offering neat interactive features on Websites..

Now look at what they can do, WITHOUT relying on Active or Java: Sites like Gmail and Flickr. Amazing stuff!
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I'm deciding whether I should congratulate you on your excellent sarcasm, or point out that both Gmail and Flickr do use Java.
 
aerosolben said:
I'm deciding whether I should congratulate you on your excellent sarcasm, or point out that both Gmail and Flickr do use Java.
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Well, you don't have to congratulate me on my excellent sarcasm because I was not being sarcastic.

I was specifically talking about 'Java Applets'.. Java programs that need to be downloaded, then are run using the Java Runtime, much like ActiveX.

Sites like Gmail and Flickr use 'Java Script' which is interpreted right in the browser, and only require a browser that supports Java Script. The buzzword for this right now is 'AJAX', but it's nothing new.

The difference between Java Script and Java Applets are night and day.
 
Ripley Twenty-Nine said:
The difference between Java Script and Java Applets are night and day.
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Of course. I took you literally when you said "don't use Java" - it's clear now that you meant applets. Just wanted to point out to those who might not be aware that Java technologies do in fact play a significant (and sometimes quiet) role in powering your favorite websites.
 
Trying to use ActiveX as a "Java-applet alternative" ranks as one of Microsoft's worst mistakes, I think.
Luckily, it hasn't been adopted too widely. If it did, it would rank as of their most prevalent security issues, as well.
 
Actually, Java isn't as common as you seem to think. Javascript is, and it has NOTHING to do with Java, except that Java is in its name. It was originally called ActionScript, I think.

Java applets aren't allowed to load from behind our firewall, and very few websites fail to function due to this. Javascript and Flash are far more common.
 
Almo said:
Actually, Java isn't as common as you seem to think. Javascript is, and it has NOTHING to do with Java, except that Java is in its name. It was originally called ActionScript, I think.

Java applets aren't allowed to load from behind our firewall, and very few websites fail to function due to this. Javascript and Flash are far more common.
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As far as I'm aware, ActionScript is just the version of JS that is used within Flash, and came considerably after JS. Perhaps you're thinking of LiveScript, which was indeed its former name.

It's easy, but unfortunately necessary, to overplay the differences between Java and JS. They aren't really related, of course, and do very different things. But the similarity in the names is not (I believe) coincidence. And the syntax is basically similar, albeit only because the syntax of each is modelled on C.

Cheers,
Rat.
 
Almo said:
Javascript is, and it has NOTHING to do with Java, except that Java is in its name. It was originally called ActionScript, I think.
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LiveScript. You're correct, of course - I must have had a mental burp or something.

My (now wholly unnecessary) point was that, even though they aren't as intrusive, sites like Gmail and Flickr are still running code on the client machine to create their cool interfaces.
 
Almo said:
Actually, Java isn't as common as you seem to think. Javascript is, and it has NOTHING to do with Java, except that Java is in its name. It was originally called ActionScript, I think.
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It was called LiveScript, but that was way, way back in the Netscape days. It was renamed JavaScript in 1995.
 
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