How would the world be different if religion went extinct?

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I'm also going to ask this question on some religious boards and gauge the respective reactions.

If every Christian, Muslim, Jew, Hindu etc. decided not to expose their next generation to their religion at all. To answer questions with simple explanations like "You can't kill people because it hurts them. And you wouldn't want to be hurt, right?" How would it affect the world? Would there be any negative affects?

When I ask this question elsewhere, I'm going to end it by asking how it would "harm the world."
 
I'm also going to ask this question on some religious boards and gauge the respective reactions.

If every Christian, Muslim, Jew, Hindu etc. decided not to expose their next generation to their religion at all. To answer questions with simple explanations like "You can't kill people because it hurts them. And you wouldn't want to be hurt, right?" How would it affect the world? Would there be any negative affects?

When I ask this question elsewhere, I'm going to end it by asking how it would "harm the world."

Welcome to Huxley's dystopia. No, Brave New World is not The Answer.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brave_New_World

A more simple answer might be: It would change nothing, because religion would immediately be re-invented.

How would you answer the questions "What is the meaning of life?" or "Why does the Universe exist?" Only religion and religious philosophy can answer these questions, regardless of whether you like the answers.
 
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I'm a firm believer that most people, most of the time, do not arrive at their views through any kind of thought process. Not logic, not religion, not because their elders or politicians or priests tell them to. Most people simply believe what feels right to them. When you ask them "why do you believe that?", whatever they respond with is pretty much just an excuse they've latched onto. This is why you can destroy somebody in an argument without affecting their views one little bit - because you've attacked their excuses, but that is not why they really believe as they do.

Given this, I think without religion people would continue to act pretty much identically to the way they do now. For instance, they would still kill one another on a large scale, they'd just find different excuses for doing so.

The only changes would be in trivial matters; more time on Sunday for sports, more bars and such instead of churches, that kind of thing.
 
To paraphrase Voltaire:
"If religion didn't exist, we'd have to invent one."

In the very least the seed of the new religion would be the stance of anti-religion. The zeal and rationalizatons around this would quickly create a religiosity and eventually the "true" religion.
 
How would you answer the questions "What is the meaning of life?" or "Why does the Universe exist?" Only religion and religious philosophy can answer these questions, regardless of whether you like the answers.
These are meaningless questions that don't have answers, which is probably an answer you don't like.
 
What is the meaning of life? An answer I've always been fine with is "there is no absolute meaning, but that does leave you free to create your own meaning for your life". And, what sort of meaning could ever be absolute anyway? God gives you meaning, okay why is that? What gives god the right to bestow meaning? Someone who thought of the universe as some sort of quasi god in and of itself once suggested the entire meaning of life was to reproduce. The problem was he confused "reality for what it is" which is to say, we reproduce basically because that is evolutionarily advantageous, with "meaning" in the "spiritual fulfillment" sense. Meaning only matters to beings who are able to understand it. Plus, what possible meaning is there in just "keeping life going" if there's no purpose of any other emotions except to create more life to go through that same cycle? That still answers nothing. Science explains that it does happen, but the universe doesn't care about meaning in and of itself, only we do, so as far as I'm concerned that's where we have to turn if we want meaning, and that should be enough.

"Why does the universe exist?" Now that's one you just can't answer, and not even religion and philosophy could ever actually answer that one. For anything you might come up with in religion, "god did it", you'd still have to ask "okay, why does god exist?" or "Well god is technically a part of "all that is, the universe, so again, why does the universe bother existing at all, which is to say, why is there a god?" and what sort of philosophy could possibly answer it? Maybe "you are all that is and you create the universe"? Nope, still leaves the question "what sort of reality exists that allows my absolute conciousness to exist?" and "Why do I exist?".

Sorry, religion doesn't do jack except perhaps trick people into thinking they have an answer.
 
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If religion went extinct and every trace of ancient or present mythology was eliminated, it wouldn't stop religion. New mythology is made everyday. Today's popular heros' are tomorrows Dying God.

We need a new mythology, one more suited for the realities of modern life. One that reflects the global challenges we all face. One that isn't hundreds or thousands of years old.

But things are changing too fast for a mythology to form.
 
It would depend on how mean each future Maximum Leader and Minions became. No one has yet found the limits of depravity.
 
People would just substitute religion for some other lame excuse (say, being a fan of a different soccer team) to keep killing each other...
 
How would you answer the questions "What is the meaning of life?" or "Why does the Universe exist?" Only religion and religious philosophy can answer these questions, regardless of whether you like the answers.

Somewhere in the 40's - check your Guide and don't panic.
 
People would just substitute religion for some other lame excuse (say, being a fan of a different soccer team) to keep killing each other...

See, I don't think this is true. Certainly eliminating religion would not end all suffering or war or hatred completely (you'd have to be an idiot to think that, really) but it would do a lot of good. Firstly, it would remove a lot of homophobia from the world. Some people would still be bigots, mainly on the grounds of finding it icky, but I think a large majority of people would no longer oppose gay rights. Secondly, the Israeli/Palestinian conflict would become a step closer to being resolved, although of course years of built up hatred on both sides would still need to be overcome. The same goes for various other conflicts of an entirely or partly religious nature, e.g. Northern Ireland. Thirdly, the Middle East would improve immesurably, as religious tensions that existed between now non-existant sects dissolved overnight, and religiously based oppression (against women, free exchange of ideas etc) would be severely weakened (although I think coming to the point of equal rights for all and a belief in freedom of speech would take longer, just because old habits die hard). Fourthly, the cause of scientific thinking would be helped (particularly over there in America), as, for example, no-one would now want to block the teaching of evolution in schools or stem cell research or future advances in technology which religion might get hung up on for no good reason.

In terms of harm, it's hard to say. The churches often act as organisations for charitable collection and distribution, or as community centres, so losing them without a secular replacement would be bad. I don't think producing a secular replacement would be so hard though. A lot of people might occasionally feel a bit more lonely without someone to pray to/chant at/sacrifice goats to, and a few people might feel a LOT more lonely, possibly to the point of suicide (I don't think studies show atheists are more likely to commit suicide, but it's possible that those who would be unable to cope without a God merely never become atheists in the first place). Maybe some drug/alcohol addicts find it harder to kick the habit without Jesus to pray to in moments of weakness (OTOH, Mel Gibson is hardly a shining example of the all conquering abilities of prayer to keep you sober). I'm fairly sure morality in general would be unaffected in most cases, and improve in some, without religion. On the whole, I think losing religion would be a big plus.

Another thought, RE:The idea that people would kill each other for some other reason without religion, do people who advance this idea really think that 9/11 would have happened without religion? Or the witch burnings/Spanish Inquisition (I bet no-one expected that!)? Or the Crusades, which were a specific attempt to convert the "Heathens"? 'Cause I find it really hard to emphasise with that point of view.

Of course, this all assumes that it's even possible to get rid of religion. In fact, some new religions would just take the place of the old ones. Hopefully they'd be more in line with a modern moral/ethical view, but still, they'd be there.
 

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