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Aidoneus 12th July 2021 09:16 AM

Bold of Patel to give backing to her own arrest, considering she led the charge on booing the squad’s attempts to highlight racial inequality.

The Don 13th July 2021 08:21 AM

UK foreign aid budget cut by £4bn :mad:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-57826111

It's not like the UK needs to curry favour these days as a result of deteriorating relationships with close trading partners, former colonies or the United States :rolleyes:

Andy_Ross 13th July 2021 09:59 AM

NHS Bill Having 2nd reading tomorrow in Parliament is a recipe for fragmenting the NHS into 42 ICS (integrated Care Systems) with different budgets and different priorities creating a postcode lottery with 42 different healthcare systems for England!

Andy_Ross 13th July 2021 04:38 PM

Nigel Farage tweeted

@Nigel_Farage
About to go live on @GBNEWS to discuss the appalling and violent scenes at Wembley Stadium on Sunday.

catsmate 14th July 2021 03:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop (Post 13536376)
Nigel Farage tweeted

@Nigel_Farage
About to go live on @GBNEWS to discuss the appalling and violent scenes at Wembley Stadium on Sunday.

No doubt it's all the fault of the EU, foreigners, blacks or Labour.
:rolleyes:

Darat 14th July 2021 03:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by catsmate (Post 13536760)
No doubt it's all the fault of the EU, foreigners, blacks or Labour.
:rolleyes:

It was Italy's fault we lost, Italy is in the EU therefore it was the EU's fault!

Simples

Lothian 14th July 2021 04:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Darat (Post 13536774)
It was Italy's fault we lost, Italy is in the EU therefore it was the EU's fault!

Simples

Hang on a minute. You can't just blame Italy. The ref and assistants were from Holland, 4th match official was Spanish, and a German was in charge of VAR. It really was a conspiracy with the whole of the EU ganging up on us.

The Don 14th July 2021 04:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lothian (Post 13536816)
Hang on a minute. You can't just blame Italy. The ref and assistants were from Holland, 4th match official was Spanish, and a German was in charge of VAR. It really was a conspiracy with the whole of the EU ganging up on us.

.....and of course the England players who missed their penalties had something in common. :rolleyes:

Lothian 14th July 2021 04:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Don (Post 13536819)
.....and of course the England players who missed their penalties had something in common. :rolleyes:

Indeed the bastards are all left wingers.

Andy_Ross 14th July 2021 05:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lothian (Post 13536853)
Indeed the bastards are all left wingers.

I thought they were forwards?

catsmate 14th July 2021 05:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop (Post 13536859)
I thought they were forwards?

Badooopp-pah. :D

Ethan Thane Athen 14th July 2021 05:35 AM

Jonathan Pie's take on it all:

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Andy_Ross 15th July 2021 03:06 AM

I heard someone phone in a radio show yesterday who said that Tory MP Steve Baker was too liberal to be a Conservative in response to hearing that he had come out in support for the England team.

Anna Soubry former Tory Former MP, Govt Minister has also weighed in saying
"Pitiful. Steve Baker and other Conservatives now praising England’s football team for taking the knee, now speaking out against those who booed them. Nothing to do with principle or leadership all to do with piling in when they see the direction of public opinion."


Seems the Tories have a case of the GOP 'RINO' disease.

KDLarsen 15th July 2021 01:54 PM

I gather Boris Johnson gave a speech on how he plans to 'level up' the country, but apparently his recently appointed consultant has yet to deliver a best guess as to what 'levelling up' is supposed to actually mean.

Something about even more devolution, but not too much since that might transfer power over to Labour lead local councils. Oh, and something about yeast.

Mojo 15th July 2021 02:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lothian (Post 13536816)
Hang on a minute. You can't just blame Italy. The ref and assistants were from Holland, 4th match official was Spanish, and a German was in charge of VAR. It really was a conspiracy with the whole of the EU ganging up on us.


Obviously, otherwise there would have been a Russian linesman.

Andy_Ross 15th July 2021 02:37 PM

GB News tweeted

@GBNEWS
On Tuesday a contributing presenter took the knee live on air and this was an unacceptable breach of our standards.

Darat 15th July 2021 11:38 PM

Looks like channel GB News made a mistake and let people be against racism… That’s not what “free speech” was meant to be about! https://www.theguardian.com/media/20...aking-the-knee

Hopefully this hasn’t interrupted I-might-be-I-might-not-be-Brexiter Andrew Neil’s break at his French home.

The Don 15th July 2021 11:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Darat (Post 13539184)
Looks like channel GB News made a mistake and let people be against racism… That’s not what “free speech” was meant to be about! https://www.theguardian.com/media/20...aking-the-knee

Hopefully this hasn’t interrupted I-might-be-I-might-not-be-Brexiter Andrew Neil’s break at his French home.

It does demonstrate how difficult it is to whip up an audience for a right-wing whinge-fest in the UK. This cheers me slightly. :o

Lothian 15th July 2021 11:58 PM

Why on earth are people saying that Michael Gove who split with his wife with no other people involved, has taken out a super injunction?
I am 99% sure 2 ministers wouldn't have broken social distancing rules.

catsmate 16th July 2021 12:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Don (Post 13539191)
It does demonstrate how difficult it is to whip up an audience for a right-wing whinge-fest in the UK. This cheers me slightly. :o

And regular zero audience share.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lothian (Post 13539196)
Why on earth are people saying that Michael Gove who split with his wife with no other people involved, has taken out a super injunction?
I am 99% sure 2 ministers wouldn't have broken social distancing rules.

Is Gove's boyfriend talking?

Lothian 16th July 2021 12:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by catsmate (Post 13539200)
And regular zero audience share.


Is Gove's boyfriend talking?

I think SPADs sign the official secrets act.

Darat 16th July 2021 12:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lothian (Post 13539196)
Why on earth are people saying that Michael Gove who split with his wife with no other people involved, has taken out a super injunction?
I am 99% sure 2 ministers wouldn't have broken social distancing rules.

I would have to see some extraordinary evidence before I accept that any human has ever got closer than 2 metres to Gove!

Darat 16th July 2021 12:46 AM

Ewen Fergusson has been appointed to the Committee on Standards in Public Life. Who is he? A campaigner for standards in politics? Nah but totally coincidentally he went to uni with Johnson, but so did a lot of people so we shouldn’t take that to mean they were buddies… By the way if you want to see a photo of him at university - he is behind Johnson in the infamous 1987 Bullingdon Club photo…..

Lothian 16th July 2021 12:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Darat (Post 13539213)
I would have to see some extraordinary evidence before I accept that any human has ever got closer than 2 metres to Gove!

I can fix that. Here you go.
http://www.internationalskeptics.com...13aec4e584.jpg




Oh hang on.

Darat 16th July 2021 01:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lothian (Post 13539232)
I can fix that. Here you go.
http://www.internationalskeptics.com...13aec4e584.jpg




Oh hang on.

Yeah Vulcans aren't human.

Lothian 16th July 2021 02:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Darat (Post 13539213)
I would have to see some extraordinary evidence before I accept that any human has ever got closer than 2 metres to Gove!

I think however we do need to give Gove some credit. He went to Johnson's wedding but didn't take his wife, instead he took Josh, his special advisor. How many people would selflessly carry on working to serve the country while attending a wedding celebration? His loyalty to the country is admirable.

The Don 16th July 2021 02:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lothian (Post 13539256)
I think however we do need to give Gove some credit. He went to Johnson's wedding but didn't take his wife, instead he took Josh, his special advisor. How many people would selflessly carry on working to serve the country while attending a wedding celebration? His loyalty to the country is admirable.

Presumably if they'd have had to stay over, he'd have saved the country money by only booking the one room for the pair of them. ;)

Andy_Ross 16th July 2021 03:16 AM

Dave Channel tweeted

@davechannel
Davestation, a show we put on for a laugh at 3am where a man ate a kebab to lift music, had more viewers than GB News.

Darat 16th July 2021 03:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Don (Post 13539258)
Presumably if they'd have had to stay over, he'd have saved the country money by only booking the one room for the pair of them. ;)

And everywhere was so packed they had to settle for a room with the one bed!

Carrot Flower King 16th July 2021 03:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KDLarsen (Post 13538782)
I gather Boris Johnson gave a speech on how he plans to 'level up' the country, but apparently his recently appointed consultant has yet to deliver a best guess as to what 'levelling up' is supposed to actually mean.

Something about even more devolution, but not too much since that might transfer power over to Labour lead local councils. Oh, and something about yeast.

The line he used was “the yeast that lifts the whole mattress of dough, the magic sauce, the ketchup of catch-up” , which beggars belief. If this is the best an Eton and Oxford education can do for you, then someone wasted their money on him...

But it's lines like that which make it credible that he might have said some of the things Zoe Williams made up in her Guardian piece - https://www.theguardian.com/politics...-of-articulate - like the bit about not understanding why folk in Rutland have a far greated life expectancy than those in Glasgow or Blackpool...But I don't expect Spaffer to have the remotest clue about health inequalities, nor for him to have heard of Marmot, let alone Townshend nor the Black Report nor Brown and Harris nor...It's a long list. I suspect he's heard of Danny Dorling but dismisses him as some "lefty academic" 'cos he used to be at Sheffield.

Darat 16th July 2021 03:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Carrot Flower King (Post 13539304)
The line he used was “the yeast that lifts the whole mattress of dough, the magic sauce, the ketchup of catch-up” , which beggars belief. If this is the best an Eton and Oxford education can do for you, then someone wasted their money on him...

But it's lines like that which make it credible that he might have said some of the things Zoe Williams made up in her Guardian piece - https://www.theguardian.com/politics...-of-articulate - like the bit about not understanding why folk in Rutland have a far greated life expectancy than those in Glasgow or Blackpool...But I don't expect Spaffer to have the remotest clue about health inequalities, nor for him to have heard of Marmot, let alone Townshend nor the Black Report nor Brown and Harris nor...It's a long list. I suspect he's heard of Danny Dorling but dismisses him as some "lefty academic" 'cos he used to be at Sheffield.

Of course he has - that's the father of the girl that won Love Island!

Andy_Ross 16th July 2021 03:34 AM

Well, Maggie levelled the industry in the North back in the 80s so they are well on the way.

Andy_Ross 16th July 2021 03:36 AM

Parody Boris Johnson tweeted

@BorisJohnson_MP
Oh **** off! How am I supposed to parody that?
I give up.

"Ex-Bullingdon Club member appointed to Whitehall’s sleaze watchdog
Ewen Fergusson, a university friend of Boris Johnson, approved for position by No 10"
theguardian.com

Andy_Ross 16th July 2021 03:42 AM

Alastair Stewart to leave GB News.

Citing health reasons, Stewart is to taken an extensive leave of absence after he damaged his hip walking his horse out of his stables.

No return date has been publicly specified other than it “will be a while”.

Andy_Ross 16th July 2021 03:44 AM

Another rat leaving the sinking ship.
They knew what they were signing up for their careers are in tatters, serves them right.

Andy_Ross 16th July 2021 04:01 AM

Maybe he was worried that if he had another fall while on air it might be weeks before he was discovered.

Carrot Flower King 16th July 2021 04:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Darat (Post 13539306)
Of course he has - that's the father of the girl that won Love Island!

Aaaaah, I didn't know that.

Vixen 16th July 2021 04:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lothian (Post 13539196)
Why on earth are people saying that Michael Gove who split with his wife with no other people involved, has taken out a super injunction?
I am 99% sure 2 ministers wouldn't have broken social distancing rules.

Shhhh. The first rule of a superinjunction is...that you are not allowed to mention a superinjunction.

She-eesh!

Vixen 16th July 2021 04:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lothian (Post 13539256)
I think however we do need to give Gove some credit. He went to Johnson's wedding but didn't take his wife, instead he took Josh, his special advisor. How many people would selflessly carry on working to serve the country while attending a wedding celebration? His loyalty to the country is admirable.

You mean this Josh, who likes to retweet Gove's tweets?

https://twitter.com/joshgrimstone

https://twitter.com/michaelgove/stat...269395458?s=20

Vixen 16th July 2021 04:56 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Darat (Post 13539184)
Looks like channel GB News made a mistake and let people be against racism… That’s not what “free speech” was meant to be about! https://www.theguardian.com/media/20...aking-the-knee

Hopefully this hasn’t interrupted I-might-be-I-might-not-be-Brexiter Andrew Neil’s break at his French home.

Well we know Andrew Neil is not a racist.

Darat 16th July 2021 06:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lothian (Post 13539256)
I think however we do need to give Gove some credit. He went to Johnson's wedding but didn't take his wife, instead he took Josh, his special advisor. How many people would selflessly carry on working to serve the country while attending a wedding celebration? His loyalty to the country is admirable.

Guido Fawkes noted his appointment https://order-order.com/people/josh-grimstone/ back in 2018 - given the rumours that article now makes much more sense.

Andy_Ross 16th July 2021 11:21 AM

GBNEWS presenter Neil Oliver said earlier "My teammate Guto Harri is right to say and do as he sees fit. I do the same. That’s the ethos of the channel. Free speech. We don’t all agree with each other - that’s the point, or else where’s the debate?"

That didn't age well!

Guto Harri to leave GB News.
Harri has been suspended by the channel for making a 3 second silent anti racism gesture which was considered an “unacceptable breach” of behaviour for GB News staff.

It is unclear when or if he will return.

P.J. Denyer 16th July 2021 12:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Darat (Post 13539300)
And everywhere was so packed they had to settle for a room with the one bed!

Singles are cheaper. Oh, and if anyone asks, the restraints are because he sleepwalks.


Nothing to see here. Move along. Move along.

Vixen 16th July 2021 12:33 PM

When Gove told his wife he was 'Just popping out for a six-pack', he wasn't lying.

Worm 16th July 2021 12:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop (Post 13539776)
Harri has been suspended by the channel for making a 3 second silent anti racism gesture which was considered an “unacceptable breach” of behaviour for GB News staff.

Yeah, GBNews did a quick turnaround on that.

Quote:

GB News stands four square against racism in all its forms. We do not have a company line on taking the knee.
Shortly followed by...

Quote:

On Tuesday a contributing presenter took the knee live on air and this was an unacceptable breach of our standards.

jimbob 16th July 2021 01:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Darat (Post 13539300)
And everywhere was so packed they had to settle for a room with the one bed!

Trying to remember which of Major's ministers tried that excuse.

I do remember him saying that they slept "top to tail" because af the time I thought the more common phrase was soixante neuf

gypsyjackson 16th July 2021 11:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jimbob (Post 13539943)
Trying to remember which of Major's ministers tried that excuse.

I do remember him saying that they slept "top to tail" because af the time I thought the more common phrase was soixante neuf

David Ashby. Not quite a minister, but a Parliamentary Private Secretary (unpaid gofer for a Cabinet Minister; useful for officials like me who needed to get urgent notes to the Minister at the despatch box).

ETA: Ashby sued a newspaper for saying he had left his wife for a man; the case failed when his wife testified in court that it was true.

Andy_Ross 17th July 2021 02:52 AM

Nigel Farage tweeted

@Nigel_Farage
At 5pm today I will be making an announcement about a big career change. Watch this space.

Has he finally recognised that he's not going to get in to parliament?

P.J. Denyer 17th July 2021 03:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop (Post 13540563)
Nigel Farage tweeted

@Nigel_Farage
At 5pm today I will be making an announcement about a big career change. Watch this space.

Has he finally recognised that he's not going to get in to parliament?

Losing elections to dolphins is a career?

The Don 17th July 2021 05:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop (Post 13540563)
Nigel Farage tweeted

@Nigel_Farage
At 5pm today I will be making an announcement about a big career change. Watch this space.

Has he finally recognised that he's not going to get in to parliament?

Maybe he'll be on the next series of RuPaul's Drag Race UK as Smokey Gammon


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