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Darat 19th December 2021 04:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop (Post 13683415)
...snip...

"I hope we will move as fast as possible to where we need to get to: a lightly regulated, low-tax, entrepreneurial economy, at the cutting edge of modern science and economic change."

....snip...

He can hopefully grab a few consultancies with the Chinese, after all he clearly wants us to become like China...

Carrot Flower King 19th December 2021 05:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Garrison (Post 13683401)
I mean this the government action he finds unacceptable? Not corruption, second jobs, dumping sewage in our rivers, no trying to keep the NHS from being overwhelmed, that's his breaking point. :rolleyes:

Just like all those play tough rebel wannabees, voting against any further Covid restrictions while knowing that Labour would support BlowJob, but nary a squeak about any of those other issues you mention.

Freedom...To take back-handers without any retribution...To pour **** into rivers...To drive the NHS into the ground so they can sell it off to their mates...To make spurious comparisons to both the Nazis and Stalin at the same time...To stick a "y" in your surname instead of "i" to make it look posher...

But wearing a mask, having a small needle in your arm, washing your hands and not having a Christmas party...Oh, noes, we cannot cope with that!

Vixen 19th December 2021 06:17 AM

The problem IMV is with the FPTP system, which I used to think was good. However, the two-party/three-party system doesn't really work, because with an 80-seat majority, the Opposition is ineffective and with the weight of the mass media right-wing owned press against it and in charge of a powerful hegemony that can exhort us - like the comic DAILY EXPRESS - to 'HAVE FAITH IN BORIS'.

The system in Northern Europe, which I had hitherto akinned to weakness, is actually much more democratic and powerful. For example, in Finland, we have an SDP majority party in power, with a Green Foreign Minister and a Swedish-Speaking Party Justice Minister, a Centre Party Home Secretary and a Left Party Education Minister. The Opposition consists of the Conservatives (Kokomus) and the Basic Finns, Perusuomalaiset (= similar to UKIP but with a strong belief in the welfare state). IMV this works well.

It would be great if the UK electoral system gave people like Caroline Lucas of the Greens a chance. Well, the Lib-Dem/Conservative Alliance with Cameron and Clegg was a nightmare but it could work with a broad alliance of the best persons instead of this dull uninspiring two-party fiasco.

Carrot Flower King 19th December 2021 11:21 AM

Hang on a mo!

If the men and women in grey suits do hand BlowJob the revolver and the glass of Scotch, triggering a leadership contest, who will be left holding the fort?

Lemme see now, who is the Officially Designated Deputy PM? **** me, it's Dominic "How clueless am I?" Raaaaaaaaaaaaaab.

I'm going to wake up and find that I'm not in Kansas anymore, aren't I?

Hercules Rockefeller 19th December 2021 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Carrot Flower King (Post 13683660)
I'm going to wake up and find that I'm not in Kansas anymore, aren't I?

The band or the state?

zooterkin 19th December 2021 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Carrot Flower King (Post 13683660)
Hang on a mo!

If the men and women in grey suits do hand BlowJob the revolver and the glass of Scotch, triggering a leadership contest, who will be left holding the fort?

Lemme see now, who is the Officially Designated Deputy PM? **** me, it's Dominic "How clueless am I?" Raaaaaaaaaaaaaab.

I'm going to wake up and find that I'm not in Kansas anymore, aren't I?

Is that how it works? Doesn't the current leader stay until their replacement is elected? (Given how he somehow avoided any negative mention in Cummings' various revelations, Gove would appear to be in with a chance.)

Lothian 19th December 2021 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by zooterkin (Post 13683701)
Is that how it works? Doesn't the current leader stay until their replacement is elected? (Given how he somehow avoided any negative mention in Cummings' various revelations, Gove would appear to be in with a chance.)

Gove has been very very quiet recently.

I suspect there is a reason he is keeping out of the news.

Andy_Ross 19th December 2021 01:52 PM

NEW: Downing Street staff and Boris Johnson pictured drinking wine in the No 10 garden last May when the rest of the country was limited to meeting just one other person socially outdoors.

Picture in link

https://theguardian.com/politics/202...en-in-may-2020

Andy_Ross 19th December 2021 01:54 PM

Remember those two women that got arrested for sitting on a bench drinking their coffees?

Andy_Ross 19th December 2021 02:31 PM

Don’t forget that May 2020 (when the picture of the latest Johnson piss up was taken) was a few weeks AFTER cummings trip for his eye test.
They really do think the rules don’t apply to them.

Darat 19th December 2021 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop (Post 13683760)
Donít forget that May 2020 (when the picture of the latest Johnson piss up was taken) was a few weeks AFTER cummings trip for his eye test.
They really do think know the rules donít apply to them.

FTFY

Darat 19th December 2021 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Lothian (Post 13683724)
Gove has been very very quiet recently.

I suspect there is a reason he is keeping out of the news.

Presumably, he is out and about looking for his precious.

Darat 19th December 2021 02:48 PM

Deleted wrong thread!

Wudang 19th December 2021 02:49 PM

https://twitter.com/RichardBurgon/st...03437977792517

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The Financial Times says that while he was in California this week Rishi Sunak failed to attend a roundtable discussion with the UK hospitality sector. Treasury insiders said - and I kid you not - that the meeting clashed with a scheduled call with *US healthcare bosses*.

Andy_Ross 19th December 2021 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Wudang (Post 13683780)

He, along with Boris skipped todays Cobra meeting too.

Andy_Ross 19th December 2021 04:12 PM

Why would Boris call a Cobra meeting then not turn up? it's not like it wasn't at Downing Street?

Was he drunk or has he ****** off somewhere for the weekend?

Maybe they should have served wine and cheese.

Vixen 19th December 2021 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop (Post 13683798)
He, along with Boris skipped todays Cobra meeting too.

Stephen Baker was leading it. I wonder if he is going to throw himself into the leadership race, with Truss out of the way doing her trade deals and lumbered with Frost's old job.

P.J. Denyer 20th December 2021 04:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Darat (Post 13683423)
He can hopefully grab a few consultancies with the Chinese, after all he clearly wants us to become like China...

And if things get tight there's always the three hundred & whatever quid a day for showing up at the Lords. Gotta have dinner somewhere, right? May as well be the subsidised restaurant at the place where they pay you for signing in.

Tye only thing he's resigned from is the job he was about to face responsibility for when his 'efforts' hit the fan.

P.J. Denyer 20th December 2021 04:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop (Post 13683832)
Why would Boris call a Cobra meeting then not turn up? it's not like it wasn't at Downing Street?

Was he drunk or has he ****** off somewhere for the weekend?

Maybe they should have served wine and cheese.


Can the country afford enough wine to bribe Johnson to do his bloody job?

Darat 20th December 2021 04:25 AM

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Originally Posted by P.J. Denyer (Post 13684088)
And if things get tight there's always the three hundred & whatever quid a day for showing up at the Lords. Gotta have dinner somewhere, right? May as well be the subsidised restaurant at the place where they pay you for signing in.

Tye only thing he's resigned from is the job he was about to face responsibility for when his 'efforts' hit the fan.

He is now free to really lay into the idiots who negotiated this terrible deal with the EU!

Darat 20th December 2021 04:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Wudang (Post 13683780)

Well there are only 24 hours in a day and a good minister always knows what the priorities are.

jimbob 20th December 2021 05:17 AM

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Originally Posted by zooterkin (Post 13683701)
Is that how it works? Doesn't the current leader stay until their replacement is elected? (Given how he somehow avoided any negative mention in Cummings' various revelations, Gove would appear to be in with a chance.)

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Originally Posted by Lothian (Post 13683724)
Gove has been very very quiet recently.

I suspect there is a reason he is keeping out of the news.

Weren't Gove and Cummings allies before Cummings went to No 10?

There might* be other Cabinet ministers who are less stupid than Gove and I am willing to consider** that there might be other Cabinet ministers who are less evil than Gove.

Gove probably would actually want to make a success of being PM.

*Rees-Mogg is probably not an idiot.

**It's hard to tell with some of the more stupid ones where the stupidity ends and the evil begins.

The Don 20th December 2021 06:32 AM

Looks like the government is going to be losing one of its biggest BBC cheerleaders.

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Laura Kuenssberg is to step down as the BBC's political editor after seven years in the job, the corporation has confirmed.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-58996925

Dare we hope for a more robust approach to be taken when it comes to actually asking Conservatives questions and challenging their lies ?

Darat 20th December 2021 07:26 AM

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Originally Posted by The Don (Post 13684133)
Looks like the government is going to be losing one of its biggest BBC cheerleaders.



https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-58996925

Dare we hope for a more robust approach to be taken when it comes to actually asking Conservatives questions and challenging their lies ?

Once Cummings left, she was left out in the cold with no sources to work.

Darat 20th December 2021 11:42 AM

Six out of ten people thought Johnson will be out of his job by the end of next year, the poll found.

zooterkin 20th December 2021 12:02 PM

Seems remarkably low given such a long period of time.

Andy_Ross 20th December 2021 03:31 PM

Busy day tomorrow, with meetings at wine o'clock and half past Brie.

Garrison 24th December 2021 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Darat (Post 13684165)
Once Cummings left, she was left out in the cold with no sources to work.

On the bright side she can now devote herself full time to becoming wife number five.

Andy_Ross 24th December 2021 04:20 PM

Natalie Elphicke Conservative Member of Parliament for Dover & Deal tweeted
@NatalieElphicke
Dec 23
Today I visited the Dover Food Bank with Scarlett Smith, where we put together parcels for people this Christmas time. Scarlett also handed in donations of food and toys for Christmas that she has been collecting.
I was so impressed with the vital work of the Dover Food Bank

Congratulations to Scarlett on her fundraising for Dover Food Bank. My thanks to Laura and the team for all they do. Please do support the Dover Food Bank if you can, and if you are able to volunteer, find out more at:
https://dover.foodbank.org.uk

Only People @NatalieElphicke mentioned can reply to tweets.

Darat 27th December 2021 02:26 AM

It's a testament to the Tories, look how food banks have increased year on year under the Tories, Labour never did that!

Nessie 27th December 2021 02:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop (Post 13687691)
Natalie Elphicke Conservative Member of Parliament for Dover & Deal tweeted
@NatalieElphicke
Dec 23
Today I visited the Dover Food Bank with Scarlett Smith, where we put together parcels for people this Christmas time. Scarlett also handed in donations of food and toys for Christmas that she has been collecting.
I was so impressed with the vital work of the Dover Food Bank

Congratulations to Scarlett on her fundraising for Dover Food Bank. My thanks to Laura and the team for all they do. Please do support the Dover Food Bank if you can, and if you are able to volunteer, find out more at:
https://dover.foodbank.org.uk

Only People @NatalieElphicke mentioned can reply to tweets.

The bizarre world of Conservatism, where they love food banks and hate benefits or a decent living wage.

Jack by the hedge 27th December 2021 03:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Nessie (Post 13688707)
The bizarre world of Conservatism, where they love food banks and hate benefits or a decent living wage.

Food banks are charity for the Deserving Poor who get given fresh veg and tins of soup. Benefits go to the Undeserving Poor who fritter it away on cigarettes and colour televisions. Tories don't trust the needy to buy only what they need and dislike the idea they might be allowed some small pleasure.

Nessie 27th December 2021 07:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Jack by the hedge (Post 13688708)
Food banks are charity for the Deserving Poor who get given fresh veg and tins of soup. Benefits go to the Undeserving Poor who fritter it away on cigarettes and colour televisions. Tories don't trust the needy to buy only what they need and dislike the idea they might be allowed some small pleasure.


The irony being many Conservatives ignore the crap many better off people buy, from smoking, to TVs, jewellery, fashion to accessories that just cause pollution and waste.

Carrot Flower King 28th December 2021 10:52 AM

We know our places, don't we?

Killing and injuring folk somewhere like Driffield doesn't lead to gubbmint action, but vaguely wandering around near Windsor when Brenda is there makes the Home Secretary spring into action...

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...astle-incident

Shall we all tug our forelocks now?

catsmate 28th December 2021 11:56 AM

Britain's "world leading" plans for EV charging points have been dropped under commercial pressure.
https://www.theguardian.com/environm...ly-rolled-back

The Don 28th December 2021 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by catsmate (Post 13689821)
Britain's "world leading" plans for EV charging points have been dropped under commercial pressure.
https://www.theguardian.com/environm...ly-rolled-back

It's only ever about the headlines, never the follow through

Carrot Flower King 28th December 2021 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by The Don (Post 13689846)
It's only ever about the headlines, never the follow through

Except for sewage in rivers...

The Don 28th December 2021 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Carrot Flower King (Post 13689869)
Except for sewage in rivers...

:D :D

The Don 29th December 2021 12:44 AM

More good news for 2022, rampant inflation combined with the increase in National Insurance payments will mean that the person in the street won't have to worry about what to do with any disposable income. :mad:

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Millions of families are facing a "year of the squeeze" in 2022, a think tank has warned.

The Resolution Foundation predicts higher energy bills, stagnant wages and tax rises could leave households with a £1,200 a year hit to their incomes.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-59814598

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Meanwhile, the cost of living in the UK surged by 5.1% in the 12 months to November - the highest increase in 10 years - Office for National Statistics data showed.

Resolution Foundation chief executive Torsten Bell, said: "The overall picture is likely to be one of prices surging and pay packets stagnating."
Yay for '70s style "stagflation" :rolleyes:

Carrot Flower King 29th December 2021 05:40 AM

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Originally Posted by The Don (Post 13689881)
:D :D

I know: you set 'em up, I'll knock 'em in.

Mojo 29th December 2021 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by jimbob (Post 13684110)
Rees-Mogg is probably not an idiot.


He just plays one on TV?

Carrot Flower King 29th December 2021 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Mojo (Post 13690410)
He just plays one on TV?

No, he plays one IRL: if he didn't have his famous, wealthy and very well-connected father and been put through the Eton connections and leg up factory he would be nothing. Can you imagine him having to grow up on a council estate on Teesside? Having to survive around South Bank or Grangetown?

He's just another product of privilege without any discernible talent.

Andy_Ross 29th December 2021 11:35 AM

Eton educated Lord Gage worth £15m used £330,000 from the Levelling Up Fund to fill in half a mile of potholes on the driveway to his Tudor mansion in South East England.
The track leads to Charleston Farmhouse, a museum and art gallery within the grounds of his Firle Estate.
His Estate Management team secured the cash from the 'Getting Building Fund' one of the Levelling Up Department’s grants specifically aimed at helping Covid-hit infrastructure.


So you're worth gazillions. How do you look at a pot of money notionally for communities that have none and think to yourself, "I know what! A third of a million of that can be used to fix my driveway!"

Eat dirt, red wall voters.

Darat 29th December 2021 12:29 PM

He levelled his driveway!

P.J. Denyer 30th December 2021 03:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop (Post 13690517)
So you're worth gazillions. How do you look at a pot of money notionally for communities that have none and think to yourself, "I know what! A third of a million of that can be used to fix my driveway!"

Eat dirt, red wall voters.


Honestly, I bet he sees nothing wrong with it. When he claimed the money he probably thought "It's about time I got something"

Vixen 30th December 2021 03:38 AM

Chuckle. These Tories are so endearing. Don't we just love their naughty but cute little antics. Bless their chubby little cheeks.

The Don 30th December 2021 03:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Vixen (Post 13690939)
Chuckle. These Tories are so endearing. Don't we just love their naughty but cute little antics. Bless their chubby little cheeks.

...and yet they still have a comfortable lead in national polls. :confused:

It seems that the British public don't really mind this kind of thing so long as "toffs" do it. OTOH woe betide the immigrant or asylum seeker who manages to secure the benefits to which they are legally entitled. :mad:

Carrot Flower King 30th December 2021 04:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop (Post 13690517)
Eton educated Lord Gage worth £15m used £330,000 from the Levelling Up Fund to fill in half a mile of potholes on the driveway to his Tudor mansion in South East England.
The track leads to Charleston Farmhouse, a museum and art gallery within the grounds of his Firle Estate.
His Estate Management team secured the cash from the 'Getting Building Fund' one of the Levelling Up Departmentís grants specifically aimed at helping Covid-hit infrastructure.


So you're worth gazillions. How do you look at a pot of money notionally for communities that have none and think to yourself, "I know what! A third of a million of that can be used to fix my driveway!"

Eat dirt, red wall voters.

So far, so normal.

The twat in Alnwick Castle managed to get Northumberland County Council to cough up, using our council tax, for re-surfacing The Peth, up from Alnwick Bridge to Bailiffgate, just by the entrance to the castle. Said council had ignored complaints from local residents and those who worked on Bailiffgate (yup, that was me, the rest of my team, the Children's Services team who shared our building and all the staff at the high school) for ages and ages. But twat Percy's daughter is getting married, so we can't have a knackered road for the wedding guests, can we? And then he got the road blocked off for days, so folk struggled to get to their homes or to work (it's a long way round).

And this is the twat who is currently holding up a railway line in south easst Northumberland because he wants more money for some old wayleave arrangement...

FFS, some days I expect he'll go full Wars of the Roses and order the local peasantry to take up arms against those dastardly Nevilles!

Andy_Ross 30th December 2021 04:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Carrot Flower King (Post 13690953)
So far, so normal.

The twat in Alnwick Castle managed to get Northumberland County Council to cough up, using our council tax, for re-surfacing The Peth, up from Alnwick Bridge to Bailiffgate, just by the entrance to the castle. Said council had ignored complaints from local residents and those who worked on Bailiffgate (yup, that was me, the rest of my team, the Children's Services team who shared our building and all the staff at the high school) for ages and ages. But twat Percy's daughter is getting married, so we can't have a knackered road for the wedding guests, can we? And then he got the road blocked off for days, so folk struggled to get to their homes or to work (it's a long way round).

And this is the twat who is currently holding up a railway line in south easst Northumberland because he wants more money for some old wayleave arrangement...

FFS, some days I expect he'll go full Wars of the Roses and order the local peasantry to take up arms against those dastardly Nevilles!

But Harry Potter!

Carrot Flower King 30th December 2021 04:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop (Post 13690956)
But Harry Potter!

Harry ******* Potter, my arse!

The problems caused for local residents and those working near Alnwick Castle by Potterists wandering around the middle of the road, blocking footpaths, impeding access to buildings where folk live and work, while all chanting "Harry Potter! Harry Potter! Harry Potter!" like they'd been hypnotised by JK Rowling and twat Percy...

And as for the "tourists = money" non-argument: how much money comes into the non-twat Percy economy when everyone arrives in a coach (causing more problems as the drivers were utter pish on narrow, mediaeval derived streets), is pushed out and into the castle, then shoved back on the coach and driven off to somewhere else (probably Durham Cathedral if they were Potterists)?

ETA And that's before we get to some actual costs, such as members of my team losing 1 or 2 potential appointment slots each every day during holiday season, as all the road journeys take so much longer because of coaches. And folk complain about NHS waiting times...But have to go on coach trips and clog up the A1 and small towns...


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