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wareyin 5th March 2021 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Distracted1 (Post 13416882)
You are welcome to link to, or name the number of, the post wherein that occurred, Or you could withdraw the "lie" (as we have taken to calling opinions that we disagree with of late).

You don't recall being extremely upset that people would describe those who literally built a golden statue of Trump as "worshipping" him? It was in that conversation that you claimed to be a lifelong registered Democrat despite your actions in this thread and that one. Ring a bell yet?


Eta: don't worry, long experience dealing with posters like 16.5/the big dog claiming to be Democrats as well despite constantly promoting and defending Republican people and positions while attacking and mocking every Democratic politician or policy made the shenanigans easy to spot.

smartcooky 5th March 2021 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Distracted1 (Post 13416875)
Had the poster who demanded a specific response chosen to read the post thoroughly, the first thing he might have noticed was that it was referring to "a" piece of legislation.

They might then have taken the simple step of asking what the quotes were meant to convey in that context. Instead a demand for a response to their misinterpretation of the post was made, along with instructions for the exact form that that response needed to take.

I have no obligation to respond to such a demand, nor to educate the poster making the demands as to the various uses of quotation marks in casual written discourse.

ETA, and no, I feel no regret for using the terms "knee-jerk" and "tribal" in a thread where "Hateful", "Bigoted", and "disgusting" are being thrown around.

I also gave you the option of at least showing where what you said was implied. You failed! You ran away from the hard question (which is exactly what I expected) and now you're trying to justify that running away with more waffling and BS (which was also entirely predictable)

Your claim, that legislation before the house stated "for legal purposes, anyone who declares himself to be a Woman is one" was always a bunch of BS and you know it. There is nothing in HR5 (or any piece of legislation) that even remotely implies this.

... you lied!

Distracted1 5th March 2021 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by smartcooky (Post 13417021)
I also gave you the option of at least showing where what you said was implied. You failed! You ran away from the hard question (which is exactly what I expected) and now you're trying to justify that running away with more waffling and BS (which was also entirely predictable)

Your claim, that legislation before the house stated "for legal purposes, anyone who declares himself to be a Woman is one" was always a bunch of BS and you know it. There is nothing in HR5 (or any piece of legislation) that even remotely implies this.

... you lied!

Reading.
Comprehension.

Dr. Keith 5th March 2021 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Distracted1 (Post 13417122)
Reading.
Comprehension.

If he is getting it so wrong maybe you could go back and point out what you were actually trying to say.

Distracted1 5th March 2021 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by wareyin (Post 13417017)
You don't recall being extremely upset that people would describe those who literally built a golden statue of Trump as "worshipping" him? It was in that conversation that you claimed to be a lifelong registered Democrat despite your actions in this thread and that one. Ring a bell yet?


Eta: don't worry, long experience dealing with posters like 16.5/the big dog claiming to be Democrats as well despite constantly promoting and defending Republican people and positions while attacking and mocking every Democratic politician or policy made the shenanigans easy to spot.

I probably do not recall being "extremely upset" about that because in the 14 years I have been visiting this forum I have rarely become "extremely upset" by other posters' ignorance. Such as labelling the creation of a tacky statue "worshipping".

It would be interesting, however, if you were to spell out how my pointing out the hyperbolic nature of that characterization of the CPAC attendees (displayed by referring to them as "worshipping" a tacky statue) equals "defending Trump" as you claimed I was doing in your earlier lie.

MarkCorrigan 5th March 2021 02:02 PM

I am fully willing to believe that you were not intentionally defending trump in that thread.

However in this thread, you are defending the indefensible opinions of a transphobic bigot.

Pacal 5th March 2021 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Distracted1 (Post 13417128)
I probably do not recall being "extremely upset" about that because in the 14 years I have been visiting this forum I have rarely become "extremely upset" by other posters' ignorance. Such as labelling the creation of a tacky statue "worshipping".

It would be interesting, however, if you were to spell out how my pointing out the hyperbolic nature of that characterization of the CPAC attendees (displayed by referring to them as "worshipping" a tacky statue) equals "defending Trump" as you claimed I was doing in your earlier lie.

Regardless of whether or not the tacky statute of Trump is equal to worshipping him, since the election we have seen from Trump supporters a degree of adulation and groveling to Trump that is quite something. The CPAC meeting was full of that sort of idiocy. So yeah I am quite convinced that a great many Trump supporters can by now accurately be described has worshippers of Trump. He is now surrounded by what can only be described has a cult of personality. And yes Marjorie Taylor Greene is one of the cultists.

wareyin 5th March 2021 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Distracted1 (Post 13417128)
I probably do not recall being "extremely upset" about that because in the 14 years I have been visiting this forum I have rarely become "extremely upset" by other posters' ignorance. Such as labelling the creation of a tacky statue "worshipping".

It would be interesting, however, if you were to spell out how my pointing out the hyperbolic nature of that characterization of the CPAC attendees (displayed by referring to them as "worshipping" a tacky statue) equals "defending Trump" as you claimed I was doing in your earlier lie.

Man, right wingers just can't help but completely "misinterpret" any sort of communication they're involved in, huh? Before we go into the weeds with your latest "hey look, a squirrel" defense, let's get back to the bit you're trying to district from at the moment: MTG's longtime anti-trans activism that you, in your right wing anti-trans stance, are attempting to wave away as not being anti-trans but anti-some part of the protection from anti-trans-discrimination bill that she was publicly against before it was written.

Then, after you rewrite history enough to justify that bit of right wingerness, we can circle back to how creating a god-damn golden idol is the ******* biblical definition of worshipping, jesus ******* christ!

smartcooky 5th March 2021 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Distracted1 (Post 13417122)
Reading.
Comprehension.

Yup, yours definitely needs work

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Originally Posted by Dr. Keith (Post 13417127)
If he is getting it so wrong maybe you could go back and point out what you were actually trying to say.

Fat chance!

CORed 5th March 2021 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by smartcooky (Post 13415952)
You, however, made the claim that the legislation being discussed said "for legal purposes, anyone who declares himself to be a Woman is one".
hdraw your claim and admit you were wrong.

I am curious as to why this would be a problem (questions directed at Distracted1 more than quoted poster). Is there some test that needs to be conducted to determine if somebody is "really" transgender, or "just pretending?". Should it be legal to discriminate in housing, employment, or public accommodations against somebody who is "just pretending" and therefore not a "real" transgendered person? If so, why? Or is the contention that all transgendered people are "just pretending", and therefore need to be shunned by all right-thinking people?

wareyin 5th March 2021 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by CORed (Post 13417340)
I am curious as to why this would be a problem (questions directed at Distracted1 more than quoted poster). Is there some test that needs to be conducted to determine if somebody is "really" transgender, or "just pretending?". Should it be legal to discriminate in housing, employment, or public accommodations against somebody who is "just pretending" and therefore not a "real" transgendered person? If so, why? Or is the contention that all transgendered people are "just pretending", and therefore need to be shunned by all right-thinking people?

Marjorie Taylor Greene, the subject of this thread, literally said trans people are pretending. Distracted1 defended that claim.

mgidm86 5th March 2021 07:14 PM

Some posters have an uncanny ability to be misunderstood in virtually every thread. Why does everyone suddenly suffer from reading comprehension when these posters are around? It's just so weird!

:jaw-dropp

smartcooky 5th March 2021 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by CORed (Post 13417340)
I am curious as to why this would be a problem (questions directed at Distracted1 more than quoted poster). Is there some test that needs to be conducted to determine if somebody is "really" transgender, or "just pretending?". Should it be legal to discriminate in housing, employment, or public accommodations against somebody who is "just pretending" and therefore not a "real" transgendered person? If so, why? Or is the contention that all transgendered people are "just pretending", and therefore need to be shunned by all right-thinking people?

You just nailed it!

Norman Alexander 6th March 2021 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Bogative (Post 13418178)
I would recommend boffing powerful politicians if she has executive aspirations. It worked for Kamala.

And it worked for you too!

Stacyhs 7th March 2021 12:04 AM

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Originally Posted by smartcooky (Post 13418249)
Evidence? Really?

Bwhahahahah!!! That's funny!

Yeah, I know. Trumpists don't bother with evidence as the last two impeachments proved.

Bogative 7th March 2021 06:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Stacyhs (Post 13418179)
Care to support that with any evidence or are you just into making spurious allegations like Trump?


https://www.sfchronicle.com/politics...t-13562972.php

HawksFan 7th March 2021 07:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Bogative (Post 13418395)

We know they dated. Any evidence it furthered her career?

Distracted1 7th March 2021 07:39 AM

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Originally Posted by wareyin (Post 13417270)
Man, right wingers just can't help but completely "misinterpret" any sort of communication they're involved in, huh? Before we go into the weeds with your latest "hey look, a squirrel" defense, let's get back to the bit you're trying to district from at the moment: MTG's longtime anti-trans activism that you, in your right wing anti-trans stance, are attempting to wave away as not being anti-trans but anti-some part of the protection from anti-trans-discrimination bill that she was publicly against before it was written.

Then, after you rewrite history enough to justify that bit of right wingerness, we can circle back to how creating a god-damn golden idol is the ******* biblical definition of worshipping, jesus ******* christ!

Withdraw your lie, and I will consider addressing your further misrepresentations.

Distracted1 7th March 2021 07:42 AM

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Originally Posted by CORed (Post 13417340)
I am curious as to why this would be a problem (questions directed at Distracted1 more than quoted poster). Is there some test that needs to be conducted to determine if somebody is "really" transgender, or "just pretending?". Should it be legal to discriminate in housing, employment, or public accommodations against somebody who is "just pretending" and therefore not a "real" transgendered person? If so, why? Or is the contention that all transgendered people are "just pretending", and therefore need to be shunned by all right-thinking people?

You believe that "pretending" in that context means pretending to be trans ?

smartcooky 7th March 2021 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Bogative (Post 13418395)

You call this evidence? Ten hours and that's all you could come up with - a spurned lover's mildly bitchy opinion piece?

Oh, I forgot, you're a Trump sycophant - you don't know what evidence looks like.

wareyin 7th March 2021 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Distracted1 (Post 13418427)
Withdraw your lie, and I will consider addressing your further misrepresentations.

Oh, no, you won't address the errors in your claims unless I retract a non-existent lie? Well, that's one way to avoid any further embarrassment on your part.

Stacyhs 7th March 2021 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Bogative (Post 13418178)
I would recommend boffing powerful politicians if she has executive aspirations. It worked for Kamala.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stacyhs (Post 13418179)
Care to support that with any evidence or are you just into making spurious allegations like Trump?

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Originally Posted by Bogative (Post 13418395)

Basically you're accusing Harris of prostituting herself which explains your previous offensive avatar. Typical of the right-wing which made other nasty and untrue allegations. Resorting to such disgusting and false attacks does seem to be the 'go to' of the "party of family values" today, though. This is what Reuters fact check reveals:

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The claim Harris “had an affair with a married man” is technically true. But given Brown had been separated from his wife for more than a decade, the claim is misleading. Harris and Brown’s relationship was not secret and they made public appearances as a couple ( here , here ).

In a 2003 interview during her campaign for San Francisco district attorney, Harris told SF Weekly that she refused “to design my campaign around criticizing Willie Brown for the sake of appearing to be independent when I have no doubt that I am independent of him — and that he would probably right now express some fright about the fact that he cannot control me.” (here)

On Jan. 26, 2019, Brown published a short op-ed in the San Francisco Chronicle with the headline “Sure, I dated Kamala Harris. So what?” (here). Brown said he had recently “been peppered with calls from the national media about my ‘relationship’ with Kamala Harris, particularly since it became obvious that she was going to run for president. Most of them, I have not returned. Yes, we dated. It was more than 20 years ago.”

newyorkguy 7th March 2021 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Stacyhs (Post 13418726)
Basically you're accusing Harris of prostituting herself which explains your previous offensive avatar. Typical of the right-wing which made other nasty and untrue allegations. Resorting to such disgusting and false attacks does seem to be the 'go to' of the "party of family values" today, though...

This happens over and over. A right winger sees something in a thread that upsets them -- in this case probably the video of Marjorie Taylor Greene groping the donald trump cutout plus the comment about Greene getting it on with trump -- and they cast about for a way to give some 'payback.'

As someone pointed out: instead of defending their position the wingers often accuse anyone who disagrees as misunderstanding their position. Then they drag that out until people give up.

It's a very lame way to try and discuss something, but it's all you can expect. I just skip past this nonsense. ;)

Distracted1 7th March 2021 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by wareyin (Post 13418675)
Oh, no, you won't address the errors in your claims unless I retract a non-existent lie? Well, that's one way to avoid any further embarrassment on your part.

You are now doubling down on your lie by lieing again.
Post 845 you made a claim that I was defending Trump in a specific other thread. A lie. If you cannot be bothered to withdraw your lie- or at least excuse it by claiming to be mistaken, then honest conversation with you is not possible.

Mumbles 7th March 2021 04:49 PM

...eh, I'm not interested in Bogative's raggedy old racist stereotypes about how horrible black people are, so instead, here's MTG complaining that going through a metal detector is "voterr suppression", as opposed to just "security", and then stating that "waiting in line" is no more voter suppression than standing in line at a grocery store.

Because every person needs very specific ID to go to a grocery store. And the lines are typically and purposefully hours long.

Also, if you didn't buy groceries last "grocery day", or you have a similar name to someone who shoplifted from another store, you might find that you are wiped off the "grocery-buyer's list" and will starve, and one of the two major political parties in the US are hellbent on making this even more difficult, if not impossible, by shortening the time the grocery store is open, moving the grocery store from one place to another, and so forth.

Also, nobody should be allowed to order groceries for delivery.

wareyin 7th March 2021 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Distracted1 (Post 13418810)
You are now doubling down on your lie by lieing again.
Post 845 you made a claim that I was defending Trump in a specific other thread. A lie. If you cannot be bothered to withdraw your lie- or at least excuse it by claiming to be mistaken, then honest conversation with you is not possible.

Sure, sure anything you can use to change the subject from your errors. You not only don't have to defend yourself here, you clearly can't defend your claims.

So, how about MTG's anti-trans activism that you keep trying to ignore and change the subject from?

newyorkguy 7th March 2021 06:45 PM

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This is a blatant attempt to derail this thread. Evidence? We don't need no stinkin' evidence.

What pray tell does any of this have to do with Marjorie Taylor Greene? The comment that seems to have been so intolerable was based on, not Greene attempting a sexual liaison with trump to further her career, but groping a cardboard cutout of him. Remember?

In case anyone thinks the screen cap is misleading, here's the video link on Twitter. It's 29-seconds long for those with a short attention span. ;)

This guy right here is great!

newyorkguy 8th March 2021 01:14 PM

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This comment gives even more context to some of Greene's posturing.
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“I'm telling you we've got a South Africa in the backyard of Atlanta, Georgia.''

mgidm86 8th March 2021 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by newyorkguy (Post 13419681)
This comment gives even more context to some of Greene's posturing.

Holy crap I didn't realize that was a real poster/image and not a joke.

I want to go back to the timeline I came from, what the hell is going on here? Let me OUT!

Skeptic Ginger 8th March 2021 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by mgidm86 (Post 13419920)
Holy crap I didn't realize that was a real poster/image and not a joke.

I want to go back to the timeline I came from, what the hell is going on here? Let me OUT!

And she wonders why Pelosi won't let her bring her gun onto the House floor.

newyorkguy 9th March 2021 07:12 AM

In Congress Greene is emerging as a tactician bent on interrupting and delaying routine business as a way of harassing her Democratic colleagues. Greene offers motions to require roll call votes on routine matters as a way of slowing things down. Greene denies this, saying Americans deserve to know exactly how their representative is voting. At the same time Greene regularly introduces motions to adjourn, a tactic that has yet to work but delays proceedings by forty five minutes because of the requirement it be put to a voice vote. This is what Greene tweeted a hour ago
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Incompetent House Democrats couldn’t even tell us this morning what time we have to vote today on their #AmericaLast policies. I bet all you working tax paying folks know what time you are showing up to work and getting the job done. Twitter link

CNN reports that while some Republicans defend Greene some Republican members of Congress find her behavior frustrating.
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However, the suspension bills before Congress on Monday had nothing to do with the topics Greene claims she was focused on. Instead, they addressed issues like child abuse treatment and prevention, literacy and credit management. Three of the bills were even sponsored by Greene's fellow Republicans. According to one aide to a senior Republican official, rank-and-file GOP members are starting to grow frustrated with Greene's fruitless delay tactics. "Her act is starting to wear thin," said the aide. CNN report

Skeptic Ginger 9th March 2021 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by newyorkguy (Post 13420409)
In Congress Greene is emerging as a tactician bent on interrupting and delaying routine business as a way of harassing her Democratic colleagues. Greene offers motions to require roll call votes on routine matters as a way of slowing things down. Greene denies this, saying Americans deserve to know exactly how their representative is voting. At the same time Greene regularly introduces motions to adjourn, a tactic that has yet to work but delays proceedings by forty five minutes because of the requirement it be put to a voice vote. This is what Greene tweeted a hour ago

CNN reports that while some Republicans defend Greene some Republican members of Congress find her behavior frustrating.

Dunning-Kruger of Congressional function? :p

The Don 10th March 2021 12:41 AM

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Originally Posted by newyorkguy (Post 13420409)
CNN reports that while some Republicans defend Greene some Republican members of Congress find her behavior frustrating.

Maybe, but even if they do find her behaviour frustrating they won't do anything to attempt to change it because she, and her views, represent the modern day GOP. :(

newyorkguy 10th March 2021 04:25 AM

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Greene tweeted this last night-
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Marjorie Taylor Greene
Proud to fight for our #2A rights in Congress alongside
@Rep_Clyde & @RepTedBudd, two members of
Congress who sell firearms for a living.
They know that government gun controls are an
infringement on our God-given right to keep and bear arms. Tweet link
Now it's a God-given right? :rolleyes:

smartcooky 10th March 2021 04:33 AM

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Originally Posted by newyorkguy (Post 13421368)
Greene tweeted this last night-


Now it's a God-given right? :rolleyes:

Yup, the Founding Fathers are now Gods didn'tchaknow?

newyorkguy 10th March 2021 05:03 AM

Someone with the kind of mentality Marjorie Greene has, if you asked her-
  • How is the right to keep and bear arms 'God-given?'
Her answer would probably be-
  • Don't you believe in God?

And her supporters would cheer. :(

wareyin 10th March 2021 05:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by newyorkguy (Post 13420409)
In Congress Greene is emerging as a tactician bent on interrupting and delaying routine business as a way of harassing her Democratic colleagues. Greene offers motions to require roll call votes on routine matters as a way of slowing things down. Greene denies this, saying Americans deserve to know exactly how their representative is voting. At the same time Greene regularly introduces motions to adjourn, a tactic that has yet to work but delays proceedings by forty five minutes because of the requirement it be put to a voice vote. This is what Greene tweeted a hour ago



CNN reports that while some Republicans defend Greene some Republican members of Congress find her behavior frustrating.

It's nice to hear that even some of her Republican co-workers are frustrated by her, but unnamed Republican Congresscritters were also always frustrated with Trump off the record but behind him 100% when their name was attached to it. I'd much rather hear which Republicans are frustrated, or far better yet hear what they are doing to rein her in.

slyjoe 10th March 2021 06:24 AM

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Originally Posted by newyorkguy (Post 13421383)
Someone with the kind of mentality Marjorie Greene has, if you asked her-
  • How is the right to keep and bear arms 'God-given?'
Her answer would probably be-
  • Don't you believe in God?

And her supporters would cheer. :(

And that's why these republicans love to "communicate" through Twitter. There is no one to ask the obvious questions that could point out the ridiculousness of her stance.

I would also ask her "And what exactly have you done to assure 2A rights?"

newyorkguy 10th March 2021 03:46 PM

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What has Marjorie Greene done to defend second amendment rights? She'd have an answer for that one. Below is a quote from her congressional website:
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Feb. 21, 2021 - Congresswoman Marjorie Taylor Greene (GA-14) kept her campaign pledge to defend gun rights by introducing the Second Amendment Preservation Act (SAPA) to defund all federal gun control enforcement and end funding for regulation and guidance issued by the ATF. The Second Amendment Preservation Act (SAPA) will:
  • Cut all federal funding from implementing, enforcing, or advancing any measure, law, regulation, or guidance relating to the lawful use, purchase, sale, possession, or transportation of firearms by any citizen of the United States for Fiscal Year 2021.
  • Prohibit any federal funds from enforcing or implementing regulations or guidance issued by the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms promulgated after November 1, 2020.
Congresswoman Marjorie Taylor Greene issued the following statement:
“Throughout my campaign for Congress, I promised the people of Northwest Georgia that I would be the strongest defender of gun rights on Capitol Hill. The Second Amendment Preservation Act (SAPA) prevents the federal government from using our taxpayer dollars to enforce gun control on law-abiding Americans. Our God-given right to protect our country, ourselves and our families shouldn't be up for debate. I’m proud to introduce this legislation, endorsed by the American Firearms Association, that will defund the enforcement of tyrannical gun control laws.” Link to Greene House dot gov

slyjoe 10th March 2021 04:25 PM

Introducing bills isn't the same as getting them passed.

gregthehammer 10th March 2021 04:26 PM

So, anarchy then?

newyorkguy 10th March 2021 05:28 PM

Marj was busy today. USA Today reports:
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Georgia Republican Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene forced the House to delay debating and voting on President Joe Biden’s $1.9 trillion stimulus bill on Wednesday by using a delay tactic she's used many times. Before the chamber started proceedings, she made a motion to adjourn, a procedural move that makes every lawmaker come to the floor and vote for or against keeping Congress in session that day. Her attempt failed when 40 Republicans joined all Democrats in voting against her effort, which delayed the House's business for roughly one hour. The House ultimately debated, and passed, the stimulus bill, which Greene opposed. USA Today link
It has been reported that the number of Republicans voting against her motions to adjourn has increased each time she has introduced one. Today forty Republicans voted against an adjournment but many support her. Of the Republicans who voted against adjournment to day, Greene tweeted:
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"By voting against my motion to adjourn, some of my Republican colleagues are siding with the Democrats and enabling their policies that will destroy America," Greene said in a statement. "These Republican votes are the 40 white flags of the Surrender Caucus." Link to Newsweek story
How does one do business with a person like Marjorie Taylor Greene? Is she supposed to be on medication, by any chance? ;)

Skeptic Ginger 10th March 2021 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by slyjoe (Post 13422141)
Introducing bills isn't the same as getting them passed.

In Dunning-Krueger thinking it is. :p

Just like the ignorant belief that wasting the House's time with frivolous procedural moves is. Either that or she thinks she's getting even.

smartcooky 10th March 2021 11:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Skeptic Ginger (Post 13422213)
In Dunning-Krueger thinking it is. :p

Just like the ignorant belief that wasting the House's time with frivolous procedural moves is. Either that or she thinks she's getting even.

I think most Republicans in the House regard her as something of a joke, and I think she is too stupid and self-obsessed to realise that.

I also believe she thinks that her antics will delay and ultimately prevent some legislation from being passed by running out the clock. What she is too dumb to realise is that Speaker Pelosi and House Majority leader Hoyer control the clock - they will simply extend the length of time that the House is in session to get the work done.

Finally, I believe she thinks she's "trolling the Libz", but again she is too stupid to realise that the Dems will be finding it highly entertaining watching her regularly making an utter fool of herself, while watching their Republican colleagues become more and more frustrated with her antics. And that's not even mentioning the fact that the proportion of old grey-haired men is far greater on the R side of the house than the D side. Old grey men tire more easily, and become grumpy more often (I should know)

Yep, there is little doubt in my mind that the good people of Georgia's 14th congressional district have given the Dems the greatest gift they could give by electing her as their representative - a loose cannon in the midst of the House Republicans - she really is the gift that keeps giving.

Stacyhs 11th March 2021 12:40 AM

MTG is indicative of just how far the GOP has fallen not only in terms of her actually being elected and proving the 'quality' of the Trump base, but in confirming just how firm a grip Trump still has on the shriveled up cajones of the GOP Congress.

Norman Alexander 11th March 2021 03:36 AM

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Originally Posted by smartcooky (Post 13422403)
I think most Republicans in the House regard her as something of a joke, and I think she is too stupid and self-obsessed to realise that.

I also believe she thinks that her antics will delay and ultimately prevent some legislation from being passed by running out the clock. What she is too dumb to realise is that Speaker Pelosi and House Majority leader Hoyer control the clock - they will simply extend the length of time that the House is in session to get the work done.

Finally, I believe she thinks she's "trolling the Libz", but again she is too stupid to realise that the Dems will be finding it highly entertaining watching her regularly making an utter fool of herself, while watching their Republican colleagues become more and more frustrated with her antics. And that's not even mentioning the fact that the proportion of old grey-haired men is far greater on the R side of the house than the D side. Old grey men tire more easily, and become grumpy more often (I should know)

Yep, there is little doubt in my mind that the good people of Georgia's 14th congressional district have given the Dems the greatest gift they could give by electing her as their representative - a loose cannon in the midst of the House Republicans - she really is the gift that keeps giving.

I was telling someone today that the Dems will have worked out MTG's hot-buttons already. And they will simply push them whenever they want the Republicans to look stupid in public, which is most of the time. The Dems can afford a little time-wasting on this. Because her stupidities publicly paint the whole GOP with the same brush of mean-spirited, uneducated, incompetent vigilantism that she purveys. She also distracts attention from any Dem shortcomings and issues. I suspect this is why her fellow GOPers voted against her - to prevent her making a fool of them.

The Don 11th March 2021 04:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Norman Alexander (Post 13422513)
I was telling someone today that the Dems will have worked out MTG's hot-buttons already. And they will simply push them whenever they want the Republicans to look stupid in public, which is most of the time. The Dems can afford a little time-wasting on this. Because her stupidities publicly paint the whole GOP with the same brush of mean-spirited, uneducated, incompetent vigilantism that she purveys. She also distracts attention from any Dem shortcomings and issues. I suspect this is why her fellow GOPers voted against her - to prevent her making a fool of them.

You assume that would be a bad thing from an electoral point of view.

I think that GOP tactics and policies for the last couple of decades has shown that they're perfectly happy to be mean-spirited, come across as uneducated and positively thrive on vigilantism. :(

Norman Alexander 11th March 2021 04:23 AM

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Originally Posted by The Don (Post 13422538)
You assume that would be a bad thing from an electoral point of view.

I think that GOP tactics and policies for the last couple of decades has shown that they're perfectly happy to be mean-spirited, come across as uneducated and positively thrive on vigilantism. :(

Only in NE Georgia, where she crawled out from. The majority of the GOP are your actual elites, and know how to play the system...provided some dumb hick isn't stepping in dog-turds and trampling them on the carpet while wearing their colours.

Andy_Ross 11th March 2021 04:28 AM

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Originally Posted by newyorkguy (Post 13420409)
In Congress Greene is emerging as a tactician bent on interrupting and delaying routine business as a way of harassing her Democratic colleagues. Greene offers motions to require roll call votes on routine matters as a way of slowing things down. Greene denies this, saying Americans deserve to know exactly how their representative is voting. At the same time Greene regularly introduces motions to adjourn, a tactic that has yet to work but delays proceedings by forty five minutes because of the requirement it be put to a voice vote. This is what Greene tweeted a hour ago



CNN reports that while some Republicans defend Greene some Republican members of Congress find her behavior frustrating.

Isn't disrupting the Dems the main reason she got elected?

I am surprised more of it isn't happening from other Repubs.

The Don 11th March 2021 04:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Norman Alexander (Post 13422549)
Only in NE Georgia, where she crawled out from. The majority of the GOP are your actual elites, and know how to play the system...provided some dumb hick isn't stepping in dog-turds and trampling them on the carpet while wearing their colours.

I don't think so. Perhaps the GOP leadership (nationally and locally) are the actual elites but the people who actually vote GOP in large parts of the US are less well educated, poorer whites who want to return to the glory days of the 50's (not sure whether 1850's or 1950's) before the Yankees ruined it for everyone.


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I guess the proof of the pudding will be in the eating. If she becomes a celebrity within the party like Sarah Palin then IMO it's clear that the GOP leadership think she's a vote winner. If they bury her then the opposite is the case.


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