The Tim Walz campaign, and the ******** attacks upon him.

shemp said:
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There are now three retired Command Sergeants Major that have a grievance with Governor Walz.

The two from the paid endorsement:
Thomas Behrends (worked with him and replaced him)
Paul Herr (worked with him, apparently)

A new one:
Doug Julin (his enlisted superior at the time)
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/...ire-from-national-guard-his-superior-officer/

They all seem to think he's a jerk for the way he led them on about the deployment and didn't tell them he was retiring and for calling himself a retired Command Sergeant Major. Others who worked with Governor Walz have defended him. However, It's been said that NOBODY cares and yet here we have three retired Command Sergeants Major with firsthand knowledge of Governor Walz who do care. This isn't evidence that anybody else cares or should care but I think calling the case closed is premature. I guess we'll see.
 
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Scopedog said:
There are now three retired Command Sergeants Major that have a grievance with Governor Walz.

The two from the paid endorsement:
Thomas Behrends (worked with him and replaced him)
Paul Herr (worked with him, apparently)

A new one:
Doug Julin (his enlisted superior at the time)
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/...ire-from-national-guard-his-superior-officer/

They all seem to think he's a jerk for the way he led them on about the deployment and didn't tell them he was retiring and for calling himself a retired Command Sergeant Major. Others who knew Governor Walz have defended him. However, It's been said that NOBODY cares and yet here we have three retired Command Sergeants Major with firsthand knowledge of Governor Walz who do care. This isn't evidence that anybody else cares or should care but I think calling the case closed is premature. I guess we'll see.
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Blah blah blah blah. Tell me more about captain bone spurs.
 
Scopedog said:
There are now three retired Command Sergeants Major that have a grievance with Governor Walz.

The two from the paid endorsement:
Thomas Behrends (worked with him and replaced him)
Paul Herr (worked with him, apparently)

A new one:
Doug Julin (his enlisted superior at the time)
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/...ire-from-national-guard-his-superior-officer/

They all seem to think he's a jerk for the way he led them on about the deployment and didn't tell them he was retiring and for calling himself a retired Command Sergeant Major. Others who knew Governor Walz have defended him. However, It's been said that NOBODY cares and yet here we have three retired Command Sergeants Major with firsthand knowledge of Governor Walz who do care. This isn't evidence that anybody else cares or should care but I think calling the case closed is premature. I guess we'll see.
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Just FYI: your source is biased strongly right, and fails fact checks.

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/washington-examiner/

In this case, fact checks show these sources have their timeliness wrong and omit relevant facts, particularly that Walz submitted retirement papers long before his unit knew they were going anywhere.
 
Scopedog said:
You may have clicked on the wrong thread.
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No, I didn't. This is faux utrage. Nobody cares.

Do you really think it reflects poorly on a candidate who served his nation for 24 years instead of 26? i guess from your outrage we can assume you must have served at least 26 years in the military? And the candidates you support have also served more than a quarter of a century? They didn't, did they?
 
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acbytesla said:
No, I didn't. This is manufactured outrage. Nobody cares.
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What about this?
https://x.com/GraduatedBen/status/1822815164766327018
In the years after that classroom, I had the privilege of serving in this state's national guard. I stood one night in the dark of night on the tarmac at Bagram Air Base in Iraq and watched a military ramp ceremony–a soldier’s body being loaded onto a plane to be returned home. And if you've seen it, you don't leave the same. It makes you wonder, what are we doing? What are we trying to get to? And then watching as all of you have been, the confusing last few weeks with the Taliban takeover of Afghanistan.
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Governor Tim Walz
Remarks at the Minnesota 9/11 20th Anniversary Commemoration
Minnesota in the Global War on Terrorism - Post 9/11 Profiles, page 374:
https://lrl.mn.gov/docs/2023/mandated/231447.pdf…

Edited to add: The speech is a bit longer on video and the relevant part is at about 1:37:30 (don't know how to embed)
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=2xXpYNWi1Jg
He's probably talking about a Congressional trip but he left that out (he also doesn't say Iraq in the video- Bagram is in Afghanistan). I think he knew what he wanted the audience to infer.
 
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Scopedog said:
What about this?
https://x.com/GraduatedBen/status/1822815164766327018

Governor Tim Walz
Remarks at the Minnesota 9/11 20th Anniversary Commemoration
Minnesota in the Global War on Terrorism - Post 9/11 Profiles, page 374:
https://lrl.mn.gov/docs/2023/mandated/231447.pdf…

Edited to add: The speech is a bit longer on video and the relevant part is at about 1:37:30 (don't know how to embed)
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=2xXpYNWi1Jg
He's probably talking about a Congressional trip but he left that out (he also doesn't say Iraq in the video- Bagram is in Afghanistan). I think he knew what he wanted the audience to infer.
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As I said, faux outrage from phonys. I find it impossible to believe that anyone with an ounce of integrity cares. These individuals you referred to are criticizing Walz for money or politics. As I am sure you're doing.
 
Scopedog said:
Yes, per the Public Affairs Office statement from shemp's reference to wikipedia note 54, "he served as a command sergeant major." For 7 months, in fact. Why is this question important to you?
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So he is a retired command sergeant. It seems you’ve contradicted whatever you were posting previously that said he wasn’t a retired command sergeant major.



Scopedog said:
What does 'big deal' mean to you? Why do I want to discuss it? Why do I keep replying? I'm not even sure now, to be honest. Oh well.
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Use whatever phrase you want to indicate why to you it was a big deal/important to make some distinction which you now seem to be saying isn’t a distinction.

According to you he retired a command sergeant major.
 
Scopedog said:
What about this?
https://x.com/GraduatedBen/status/1822815164766327018

Governor Tim Walz
Remarks at the Minnesota 9/11 20th Anniversary Commemoration
Minnesota in the Global War on Terrorism - Post 9/11 Profiles, page 374:
https://lrl.mn.gov/docs/2023/mandated/231447.pdf…

Edited to add: The speech is a bit longer on video and the relevant part is at about 1:37:30 (don't know how to embed)
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=2xXpYNWi1Jg
He's probably talking about a Congressional trip but he left that out (he also doesn't say Iraq in the video- Bagram is in Afghanistan). I think he knew what he wanted the audience to infer.
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You should take your crocodile tears to somewhere like Infowars where they'll get a sympathetic hearing. Coming onto a reality based forum and pushing your nonsense does you no favours
 
acbytesla said:
That Governor Walz decided after 20 years to serve another 6 years and then decided 24 is enough because he wanted to pursue other interests is hardly a reason for denigrating the man.
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I agree.

But misrepresenting that service is a problem. And he did misrepresent it.
 
Ziggurat said:
I agree.

But misrepresenting that service is a problem. And he did misrepresent it.
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Barely; he, possibly, depending on the exact words he used, misrepresented the rank recorded as his official rank after his retirement. He served as a CSM up until his retirement.
 
Darat said:
So he is a retired command sergeant. It seems you’ve contradicted whatever you were posting previously that said he wasn’t a retired command sergeant major.
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No, in my opinion he isn't and not in the opinion of three retired Command Sergeants Major who served with him. The ones who he insults every time he identifies as a retired Command Sergeant Major. He forfeit the conditional rank when he retired. But I accept your disagreement.
 
zooterkin said:
Barely; he, possibly, depending on the exact words he used, misrepresented the rank recorded as his official rank after his retirement. He served as a CSM up until his retirement.
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That's not the only misrepresentation.
 
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