Dover Penn ID trial - Page 14

delphi_ote · 12th November 2005, 05:40 PM

Quote:

I'd like to say to the good citizens of Dover: If there is a disaster in your area, don't turn to God. You just rejected him from your city. -Pat Robertson

That's okay. They'll know the disaster is coming because of science, they'll know how to react because of science, and they'll know how to recover because of science. They might even be able to prevent the disaster because of science.

When a disaster is in your area, turn to rational thought. It's much more productive than bloviating about your angry imaginary friend.

Ed · 12th November 2005, 08:26 PM

Originally Posted by delphi_ote

bloviating

HeyLeroy · 13th November 2005, 01:47 PM

I SO wish I still had a copy of National Lampoon magazine from about twenty years ago. They published a cartoon that depicted a circle of what appeared to be lizards, standing in a tight huddle on a beach. One of the lizards was glaring suspiciously over his shoulders into the treeline. The caption was "The Conspiracy Theory of Evolution".

Grr, I wish I still had it!

delphi_ote · 13th November 2005, 10:21 PM

If you guys aren't regular Panda's Thumb readers, you're missing the laugh of a lifetime:

http://www.pandasthumb.org/archives/...i_finds_t.html

Demsbski making a complete fool of himself. It's a riot!

CFLarsen · 14th November 2005, 12:17 AM

He may be advocating "Intelligent Design", but he could use a bit of "smart" himself....

Paul C. Anagnostopoulos · 14th November 2005, 06:22 AM

Great link! Thanks, Delphi.

~~ Paul

BillHoyt · 14th November 2005, 10:43 AM

Originally Posted by delphi_ote

If you guys aren't regular Panda's Thumb readers, you're missing the laugh of a lifetime:

http://www.pandasthumb.org/archives/...i_finds_t.html

Demsbski making a complete fool of himself. It's a riot!

That is sooooooooooooooo utterly sad. Only the fact that so many are falling for his tripe makes its sadness pale in comparison.

drkitten · 14th November 2005, 10:51 AM

The final sessions transcripts are now available at aclupa.blogspot (see OP for details of web address). These include the closing argument for the defense.

It's every bit as shallow and stupid as one might have hoped/feared. Classic use of the "evolution is a mere theory, not a fact" lie, lots of "well, the board members did this, but you can't infer the the board's intentions from what the individual members did," "documents are irrelevant because actions speak louder than words," and the classic quote

"How can adding books to the school library be a bad thing? It is not."

as though that were the only issue in the case.

Diamond · 14th November 2005, 01:27 PM

Originally Posted by drkitten

....and the classic quote

"How can adding books to the school library be a bad thing? It is not."

as though that were the only issue in the case.

OK, I'll add:

The Koran
Justine
Ulysses
Mein Kampf
The Woman's Guide to Anal Sex

How can this possibly be a bad thing?

Dr Adequate · 14th November 2005, 06:01 PM

Originally Posted by Diamond

Mein Kampf

"There are two theories about the existence of a Worldwide Jewish Conspiracy, and teaching both will improve students' critical thinking abilities and make the study of history more interesting for them. HEIL HITLER! SIEG HEIL! SIEG HEIL! DEUTSCHLAND DEUTSCHLAND UBER A-ALLES... oops, I just 'mispoke'. Obviously despite these few words quoted out of context, the Big Evil Jewish Conspiracy Theory is in no way Nazi or anti-semitic... whew... I think I got away with that one."

delphi_ote · 14th November 2005, 06:06 PM

Originally Posted by Diamond

How can this possibly be a bad thing?

As long as you make sure to explicitly endorse the material contained in these books in class I see no problem with your idea.

Paul C. Anagnostopoulos · 14th November 2005, 06:06 PM

I'm suing the Adequate County School Board just so I can hear Dr. Adequate testify about the scientific nature of the Intelligent Worldwide Jewish Conspiracy Theory.

~~ Paul

Dr Adequate · 14th November 2005, 07:45 PM

Oops. Did I say "Jews"? How last year of me. I misspoke again. I should have said "Intelligent Cosmopolitans". This theory of course has nothing to do with Jews whatsoever.

It may be my personal belief that the Intelligent Cosmopolitans behind history, economics, and culture are Jews, but my strictly scientific hypothesis is that these things all have a designer IT'S THE JEWS, MEIN FUEHRER, DIE JUDEN, JA! JA! ... excuse me... [wrenches right arm down in a Dr Strangelove kind of way] but this scientific hypothesis of the "Intelligent Cosmopolitans" does not mention any particular race. It could even be space aliens I'M TAKING ABOUT JEWS DAMMIT... ooos, misspoke again. Yes, aliens! Evil, miscengenating HOOK-NOSED ALIENS... oops, I'm off again.
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(Note: "Cosmopolitans" is an anti-Semitic codeword for "Jews" when they want their intended audience, but not the casual observer, to know that they're being anti-semitic.)

rjh01 · 15th November 2005, 12:00 AM

I see no problems with putting the ID book in the fiction section of the library.

Paul C. Anagnostopoulos · 15th November 2005, 06:09 AM

I note that the acronym for Intelligent Cosmopolitans is IC. Veeeerrry interesting.

~~ Paul

Melendwyr · 15th November 2005, 06:50 AM

Originally Posted by Dr Adequate

(Note: "Cosmopolitans" is an anti-Semitic codeword for "Jews" when they want their intended audience, but not the casual observer, to know that they're being anti-semitic.)

Ironic, considering that 'cosmopolitan' means "one whose allegiance is not given to any particular city-state, but is a citizen of the universe". It hasn't been an accurate codeword since the formation of Israel.

BillHoyt · 15th November 2005, 07:13 AM

Originally Posted by delphi_ote

As long as you make sure to explicitly endorse the material contained in these books in class I see no problem with your idea.

Delphi? Did you really miss Diamond's irony? I can't believe that. It was meant to be fed back to (read: shoved back down the throats of) those making the original comment, and it was meant to be clearly unacceptable in their eyes.

hammegk · 15th November 2005, 07:25 AM

Hmmm. Did someone miss the irony of delphi_ote's response?

drkitten · 15th November 2005, 07:46 AM

Originally Posted by Melendwyr

Ironic, considering that 'cosmopolitan' means "one whose allegiance is not given to any particular city-state, but is a citizen of the universe". It hasn't been an accurate codeword since the formation of Israel.

Is your suggestion that all Jews' allegiance is given to Israel?

If so, I'm afraid that you're completely innaccurate.

Melendwyr · 15th November 2005, 08:06 AM

Originally Posted by drkitten

Is your suggestion that all Jews' allegiance is given to Israel?

If so, I'm afraid that you're completely innaccurate.

But this codeword is being applied to Jews who do give their allegiance to Israel. Thus the inaccuracy.

delphi_ote · 15th November 2005, 08:10 AM

Originally Posted by BillHoyt

Delphi? Did you really miss Diamond's irony? I can't believe that. It was meant to be fed back to (read: shoved back down the throats of) those making the original comment, and it was meant to be clearly unacceptable in their eyes.

Let's treat the books exactly like Pandas and People and take time out of the day to give the students the impression that the contents of these books is an adequate substitute for what's being taught in science class. I'm sure the intelligent design advocates will have no problem with this.

I think it's a great idea.

P.S. As with my previous post, this post is sarcasm.

Upchurch · 15th November 2005, 08:30 AM

Originally Posted by delphi_ote

P.S. As with my previous post, this post is sarcasm.

Are you being serious? Surely, you don't mean that?

BillHoyt · 15th November 2005, 08:48 AM

Originally Posted by Upchurch

Are you being serious? Surely, you don't mean that?

Shirley he jests?

Cleon · 15th November 2005, 09:05 AM

Originally Posted by drkitten

Is your suggestion that all Jews' allegiance is given to Israel?

If so, I'm afraid that you're completely innaccurate.

Yeah, I'll testify to that.

Paul C. Anagnostopoulos · 15th November 2005, 11:49 AM

How long has Creationism and ID been around? No research worth a damn.

But with Flying Spagetti Monsterism we have serious work going on:

http://www.pandasthumb.org/archives/...g-breakin.html

~~ Paul

Eos of the Eons · 15th November 2005, 07:19 PM

Something must be done. I made spaghetti the other night, in honor of his noodliness. My son still hates spaghetti! He wouldn't have a bite! Any advice? He'll eat any other noodle, but won't partake of the spaghettieism

delphi_ote · 15th November 2005, 07:38 PM

Originally Posted by BillHoyt

Shirley he jests?

Come now. Let's not bring Shirley into this!

fishbob · 16th November 2005, 12:48 AM

Originally Posted by Eos of the Eons

Something must be done. I made spaghetti the other night, in honor of his noodliness. My son still hates spaghetti! He wouldn't have a bite! Any advice? He'll eat any other noodle, but won't partake of the spaghettieism

The noodle directed scepticism of youth can often be assuaged by cheese.

Moose · 16th November 2005, 06:00 AM

Originally Posted by Eos of the Eons

Something must be done. I made spaghetti the other night, in honor of his noodliness. My son still hates spaghetti! He wouldn't have a bite! Any advice? He'll eat any other noodle, but won't partake of the spaghettieism

No worries. Pastafarians aren't gluten-snobs like some religions. It is enough to partake of any sort of pasta dish, from the creamy Fettucini Alfredo, through the educational Alphabet Soup, right down to the ever-humble KD/Mac-and-Cheese for the starving students/artists among the faithful. It is all suitably reverential in the eyes of Him, our most Noodly Creator.

After all, the sacred offerings of Saint Boyardee come in over fourty varieties worldwide.

It's all good.

rAmen.

Paul C. Anagnostopoulos · 16th November 2005, 06:27 AM

His Noodliness is ever munificent. She is pleased with whatever you eat, even if not pastafarious, as long as you merely give a sidelong glance to the sky while chowing down.

~~ Paul

Ed · 16th November 2005, 08:20 AM

Originally Posted by Eos of the Eons

Something must be done. I made spaghetti the other night, in honor of his noodliness. My son still hates spaghetti! He wouldn't have a bite! Any advice? He'll eat any other noodle, but won't partake of the spaghettieism

crucify him crucify him

Betenoire · 16th November 2005, 08:28 AM

*sings, a la Elmer Fudd* Kill the sinnner, kill the sinner, kill the sinnnner...

If your son doesn't know a question on a test, he shouldn't come crying to His Noodliness, 'cause the FSM might not be there for him.

Diamond · 16th November 2005, 10:13 AM

We haven't had a poll on this and I think the time has come....

BillHoyt · 16th November 2005, 10:30 AM

Originally Posted by delphi_ote

Come now. Let's not bring Shirley into this!

Agreed, so long as we're talking about Shirley, the Pastafarian.

pgwenthold · 16th November 2005, 12:41 PM

Originally Posted by JamesM

Wow, you're right. I hadn't looked at the journals.

I just noticed Henry Schaefer's name on the list of ISCID fellows. And he's a fellow of the Discovery Institute, too. He is a very very big noise indeed in quantum chemistry. I hadn't realised he was an IDer.

Yeah, he's fine as long as he sticks with computational chemistry. Other than that, he is out there.

(he started at Berkeley but didn't stay there too long. Didn't quite fit in...)

Upchurch · 17th November 2005, 01:40 PM

Originally Posted by Upchurch

Could the plaintiffs conceivably still drop the suit, even though the final arguments have already been made?

To answer my own question....

Backing out of lawsuit possible, but not simple

BillHoyt · 17th November 2005, 02:08 PM

Originally Posted by Upchurch

To answer my own question....

Backing out of lawsuit possible, but not simple

Wow! While I don't blame the new board for trying this, the old board still needs to answer for its bull. It is a shame the answer, slapping and fines need to be at the expense of the new board. And, of course, a judicial decision squarely against this garbage would be a wonderful shot over the bow of ID's weenie little paper boat, and I would rather see the caliber about to be shot, then have to wait for round II.

delphi_ote · 17th November 2005, 02:49 PM

Originally Posted by Upchurch

To answer my own question....

Backing out of lawsuit possible, but not simple

You KNOW how the ID community is going to spin this... awful awful awful.

BillHoyt · 17th November 2005, 02:53 PM

Originally Posted by delphi_ote

You KNOW how the ID community is going to spin this... awful awful awful.

Wah! The g-d secular humanists won't let us be heard. We will prevail as soon as we rid 'murica of the pinkos in the closet. Oops, sorry, wrong decade! Rid 'murica of the cults of Satan responsible for secular humanism and its handmaiden, Science. It is NO accident Satan and Science both start with 'S'! Am I right, brothers? Can I get a witness?

Hellbound · 17th November 2005, 02:57 PM

Originally Posted by BillHoyt

Am I right, brothers? Can I get a witness?

Judging from this trial, yes, but not a good one.

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12th November 2005, 08:26 PM	#522
Ed Philosopher Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 8,658	Originally Posted by delphi_ote bloviating
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HeyLeroy Vegan Cannibal Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 5,567	I SO wish I still had a copy of National Lampoon magazine from about twenty years ago. They published a cartoon that depicted a circle of what appeared to be lizards, standing in a tight huddle on a beach. One of the lizards was glaring suspiciously over his shoulders into the treeline. The caption was "The Conspiracy Theory of Evolution". Grr, I wish I still had it!
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delphi_ote Philosopher Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 5,994	If you guys aren't regular Panda's Thumb readers, you're missing the laugh of a lifetime: http://www.pandasthumb.org/archives/...i_finds_t.html Demsbski making a complete fool of himself. It's a riot!
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14th November 2005, 06:22 AM	#526
Paul C. Anagnostopoulos Nap, interrupted. Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 19,141	Great link! Thanks, Delphi. ~~ Paul
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CFLarsen Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 42,371	He may be advocating "Intelligent Design", but he could use a bit of "smart" himself....

14th November 2005, 10:43 AM	#527
BillHoyt Guest Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 5,758	Originally Posted by delphi_ote If you guys aren't regular Panda's Thumb readers, you're missing the laugh of a lifetime: http://www.pandasthumb.org/archives/...i_finds_t.html Demsbski making a complete fool of himself. It's a riot! That is sooooooooooooooo utterly sad. Only the fact that so many are falling for his tripe makes its sadness pale in comparison.
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14th November 2005, 10:51 AM	#528
drkitten Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 21,629	The final sessions transcripts are now available at aclupa.blogspot (see OP for details of web address). These include the closing argument for the defense. It's every bit as shallow and stupid as one might have hoped/feared. Classic use of the "evolution is a mere theory, not a fact" lie, lots of "well, the board members did this, but you can't infer the the board's intentions from what the individual members did," "documents are irrelevant because actions speak louder than words," and the classic quote "How can adding books to the school library be a bad thing? It is not." as though that were the only issue in the case.

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Diamond Illuminator Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 4,729	Originally Posted by drkitten ....and the classic quote "How can adding books to the school library be a bad thing? It is not." as though that were the only issue in the case. OK, I'll add: The Koran Justine Ulysses Mein Kampf The Woman's Guide to Anal Sex How can this possibly be a bad thing?
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14th November 2005, 06:01 PM	#530
Dr Adequate Banned Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 17,766	Originally Posted by Diamond Mein Kampf "There are two theories about the existence of a Worldwide Jewish Conspiracy, and teaching both will improve students' critical thinking abilities and make the study of history more interesting for them. HEIL HITLER! SIEG HEIL! SIEG HEIL! DEUTSCHLAND DEUTSCHLAND UBER A-ALLES... oops, I just 'mispoke'. Obviously despite these few words quoted out of context, the Big Evil Jewish Conspiracy Theory is in no way Nazi or anti-semitic... whew... I think I got away with that one."
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14th November 2005, 06:06 PM	#531
delphi_ote Philosopher Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 5,994	Originally Posted by Diamond How can this possibly be a bad thing? As long as you make sure to explicitly endorse the material contained in these books in class I see no problem with your idea.
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14th November 2005, 06:06 PM	#532
Paul C. Anagnostopoulos Nap, interrupted. Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 19,141	I'm suing the Adequate County School Board just so I can hear Dr. Adequate testify about the scientific nature of the Intelligent Worldwide Jewish Conspiracy Theory. ~~ Paul
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14th November 2005, 07:45 PM	#533
Dr Adequate Banned Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 17,766	Oops. Did I say "Jews"? How last year of me. I misspoke again. I should have said "Intelligent Cosmopolitans". This theory of course has nothing to do with Jews whatsoever. It may be my personal belief that the Intelligent Cosmopolitans behind history, economics, and culture are Jews, but my strictly scientific hypothesis is that these things all have a designer IT'S THE JEWS, MEIN FUEHRER, DIE JUDEN, JA! JA! ... excuse me... [wrenches right arm down in a Dr Strangelove kind of way] but this scientific hypothesis of the "Intelligent Cosmopolitans" does not mention any particular race. It could even be space aliens I'M TAKING ABOUT JEWS DAMMIT... ooos, misspoke again. Yes, aliens! Evil, miscengenating HOOK-NOSED ALIENS... oops, I'm off again. ___________________________________ (Note: "Cosmopolitans" is an anti-Semitic codeword for "Jews" when they want their intended audience, but not the casual observer, to know that they're being anti-semitic.)
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15th November 2005, 12:00 AM	#534
rjh01 Gentleman of leisure Tagger Join Date: May 2005 Location: Flying around in the sky Posts: 28,294	I see no problems with putting the ID book in the fiction section of the library.

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Melendwyr Master Poster Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 2,064	Originally Posted by Dr Adequate (Note: "Cosmopolitans" is an anti-Semitic codeword for "Jews" when they want their intended audience, but not the casual observer, to know that they're being anti-semitic.) Ironic, considering that 'cosmopolitan' means "one whose allegiance is not given to any particular city-state, but is a citizen of the universe". It hasn't been an accurate codeword since the formation of Israel.
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15th November 2005, 07:13 AM	#537
BillHoyt Guest Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 5,758	Originally Posted by delphi_ote As long as you make sure to explicitly endorse the material contained in these books in class I see no problem with your idea. Delphi? Did you really miss Diamond's irony? I can't believe that. It was meant to be fed back to (read: shoved back down the throats of) those making the original comment, and it was meant to be clearly unacceptable in their eyes.
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15th November 2005, 07:25 AM	#538
hammegk Banned Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 8,413	Hmmm. Did someone miss the irony of delphi_ote's response?
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15th November 2005, 07:46 AM	#539
drkitten Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 21,629	Originally Posted by Melendwyr Ironic, considering that 'cosmopolitan' means "one whose allegiance is not given to any particular city-state, but is a citizen of the universe". It hasn't been an accurate codeword since the formation of Israel. Is your suggestion that all Jews' allegiance is given to Israel? If so, I'm afraid that you're completely innaccurate.

15th November 2005, 08:06 AM	#540
Melendwyr Master Poster Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 2,064	Originally Posted by drkitten Is your suggestion that all Jews' allegiance is given to Israel? If so, I'm afraid that you're completely innaccurate. But this codeword is being applied to Jews who do give their allegiance to Israel. Thus the inaccuracy.
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15th November 2005, 08:10 AM	#541
delphi_ote Philosopher Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 5,994	Originally Posted by BillHoyt Delphi? Did you really miss Diamond's irony? I can't believe that. It was meant to be fed back to (read: shoved back down the throats of) those making the original comment, and it was meant to be clearly unacceptable in their eyes. Let's treat the books exactly like Pandas and People and take time out of the day to give the students the impression that the contents of these books is an adequate substitute for what's being taught in science class. I'm sure the intelligent design advocates will have no problem with this. I think it's a great idea. P.S. As with my previous post, this post is sarcasm.
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15th November 2005, 08:30 AM	#542
Upchurch Papa Funkosophy Join Date: May 2002 Location: St. Louis, MO Posts: 34,265	Originally Posted by delphi_ote P.S. As with my previous post, this post is sarcasm. Are you being serious? Surely, you don't mean that?
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BillHoyt Guest Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 5,758	Originally Posted by Upchurch Are you being serious? Surely, you don't mean that? Shirley he jests?
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Cleon King of the Pod People Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 25,649	Originally Posted by drkitten Is your suggestion that all Jews' allegiance is given to Israel? If so, I'm afraid that you're completely innaccurate. Yeah, I'll testify to that.
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Eos of the Eons Mad Scientist Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 13,749	Something must be done. I made spaghetti the other night, in honor of his noodliness. My son still hates spaghetti! He wouldn't have a bite! Any advice? He'll eat any other noodle, but won't partake of the spaghettieism
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15th November 2005, 07:38 PM	#547
delphi_ote Philosopher Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 5,994	Originally Posted by BillHoyt Shirley he jests? Come now. Let's not bring Shirley into this!
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16th November 2005, 12:48 AM	#548
fishbob Seasonally Disaffected Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Chilly Undieville Posts: 7,315	Originally Posted by Eos of the Eons Something must be done. I made spaghetti the other night, in honor of his noodliness. My son still hates spaghetti! He wouldn't have a bite! Any advice? He'll eat any other noodle, but won't partake of the spaghettieism The noodle directed scepticism of youth can often be assuaged by cheese.
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16th November 2005, 06:00 AM	#549
Moose Self-Propelled Road Hazard Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 418	Originally Posted by Eos of the Eons Something must be done. I made spaghetti the other night, in honor of his noodliness. My son still hates spaghetti! He wouldn't have a bite! Any advice? He'll eat any other noodle, but won't partake of the spaghettieism No worries. Pastafarians aren't gluten-snobs like some religions. It is enough to partake of any sort of pasta dish, from the creamy Fettucini Alfredo, through the educational Alphabet Soup, right down to the ever-humble KD/Mac-and-Cheese for the starving students/artists among the faithful. It is all suitably reverential in the eyes of Him, our most Noodly Creator. After all, the sacred offerings of Saint Boyardee come in over fourty varieties worldwide. It's all good. rAmen.

16th November 2005, 06:27 AM	#550
Paul C. Anagnostopoulos Nap, interrupted. Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 19,141	His Noodliness is ever munificent. She is pleased with whatever you eat, even if not pastafarious, as long as you merely give a sidelong glance to the sky while chowing down. ~~ Paul
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16th November 2005, 08:20 AM	#551
Ed Philosopher Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 8,658	Originally Posted by Eos of the Eons Something must be done. I made spaghetti the other night, in honor of his noodliness. My son still hates spaghetti! He wouldn't have a bite! Any advice? He'll eat any other noodle, but won't partake of the spaghettieism crucify him crucify him
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16th November 2005, 08:28 AM	#552
Betenoire Student Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 48	sings, a la Elmer Fudd Kill the sinnner, kill the sinner, kill the sinnnner... If your son doesn't know a question on a test, he shouldn't come crying to His Noodliness, 'cause the FSM might not be there for him.
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16th November 2005, 10:13 AM	#553
Diamond Illuminator Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 4,729	We haven't had a poll on this and I think the time has come....
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16th November 2005, 10:30 AM	#554
BillHoyt Guest Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 5,758	Originally Posted by delphi_ote Come now. Let's not bring Shirley into this! Agreed, so long as we're talking about Shirley, the Pastafarian.
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16th November 2005, 12:41 PM	#555
pgwenthold Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 21,620	Originally Posted by JamesM Wow, you're right. I hadn't looked at the journals. I just noticed Henry Schaefer's name on the list of ISCID fellows. And he's a fellow of the Discovery Institute, too. He is a very very big noise indeed in quantum chemistry. I hadn't realised he was an IDer. Yeah, he's fine as long as he sticks with computational chemistry. Other than that, he is out there. (he started at Berkeley but didn't stay there too long. Didn't quite fit in...)
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