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Old 7th February 2024, 02:26 AM   #401
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Taylor Swift threatens to sue student who tracks her private jet

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A student who tracks the private jets of celebrities says Taylor Swift's lawyers have threatened to sue him for sharing her flight information online.

Jack Sweeney uses publicly available data to track the take-offs and landings of planes belonging to the wealthy and posts them one day later.

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He added that he received the threatening letter after media outlets began scrutinising Swift's carbon footprint.

In 2022, Swift topped the list of celebrities with the highest private jet CO2 emissions, according to digital marketing firm Yard.

The organisation found that her jet emission were about 1,185 times more than the average person's total annual emissions.

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On Sunday, she is due to fly to Las Vegas to see her boyfriend play in the NFL Super Bowl, one day after her concert in Tokyo.

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We can't have tax-dodging billionaires having to slum it in first class or not do want they want whenever they want to do it. They're entitled to, right? Everyone else should be expected to modify their behaviour, but not them.

Sorry for the interruption. Please continue discussing which pop star is "better".
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Old 7th February 2024, 03:06 AM   #402
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Originally Posted by Ivor the Engineer View Post
Taylor Swift threatens to sue student who tracks her private jet



We can't have tax-dodging billionaires having to slum it in first class or not do want they want whenever they want to do it. They're entitled to, right? Everyone else should be expected to modify their behaviour, but not them.

Sorry for the interruption. Please continue discussing which pop star is "better".
bit late to the party
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Old 7th February 2024, 07:12 AM   #403
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Might be difficult to compare but I’m pretty sure Michael Jackson has sold more albums than Swift. Of course, comparing sales of vinyl with sales of downloads, especially with a larger market, would seem to favour Swift but even then I think Jackson is out in front.

Michael Jackson has touched many generations in ways that Swift hopefully won’t. Allegedly.

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On surface this looks like the kind of suit that will not hold up, but at the same time I wonder if the information about fuel consumption and the like is aided in any real way by specifying locations, and whether it is essential to the information for it to be so timely.

I'm just thinking that if the person being sued were to withhold the actual location of flights for a specified period of time, and just publish the pertinent consumption figures with a note that for the safety of the performer the location, though known, will be withheld for a month, there wouldn't be much of a case. In fact, the performer's safety would be greater than if she were to fly commercially, where all flights are easily tracked.
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Originally Posted by Ivor the Engineer View Post
Taylor Swift threatens to sue student who tracks her private jet



We can't have tax-dodging billionaires having to slum it in first class or not do want they want whenever they want to do it. They're entitled to, right? Everyone else should be expected to modify their behaviour, but not them.

Sorry for the interruption. Please continue discussing which pop star is "better".
Taylor, please look up "Streisand Effect".
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Taylor has done something that nobody else has been able to do: get Republicans to care about climate change.
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Old 7th February 2024, 07:15 PM   #407
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Originally Posted by arthwollipot View Post
Taylor has done something that nobody else has been able to do: get Republicans to care about climate change.
Which will last just as long as they think they're scoring points against the libs.
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Originally Posted by arthwollipot View Post
Taylor has done something that nobody else has been able to do: get Republicans to care about climate change.
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If MAGA types get triggered by the immensely talented but generally inoffensive Taylor, I’d like to introduce them to Amyl and the Sniffers.
Are they big in Australia? I've only just come across them, and I think they're brilliant. Hope they tour in the UK soon.

I'd much rather see Amy and the gang in a sweaty club with the support band in the crowd watching the main act and the musicians staffing their own merch stalls than sit in the top row in a stadium, so far away from the stage even the figure on the giant monitors looks tiny.
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Taylor has done something that nobody else has been able to do: get Republicans to care about climate change.
Nah, republicans have long noticed the hypocrisy of rich lefties preaching to the poor masses about climate from their mansions and private jets.
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Old 9th February 2024, 10:42 AM   #411
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Nah, republicans have long noticed the hypocrisy of rich lefties preaching to the poor masses about climate from their mansions and private jets.
That doesn't mean they care about it. It just means they find it politically beneficial to point it out.

If the Republicans actually cared they'd do something about climate change and then point out the hypocrisy. They don't do ****, because they don't now, nor will they ever, give a **** about climate change.
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That doesn't mean they care about it. It just means they find it politically beneficial to point it out.

If the Republicans actually cared they'd do something about climate change and then point out the hypocrisy. They don't do ****, because they don't now, nor will they ever, give a **** about climate change.
As they use to say in the Nixon era, "follow the money." Republicans don't care about climate change because they are bought and paid for whores of the fossil fuels industry.

The Koch family fortune is based on petroleum products. And they invest that fortune in buying Republicans at every level of American government. Moving away from fossil fuels is not in their interest.
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Old 11th February 2024, 01:33 PM   #413
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So, have my well reasoned arguments made Taylor Swift think twice about flying in one of her private jets from Tokyo to LA to watch her latest beefcake run around a field chasing a ball?

Please let me know tomorrow!
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Old 11th February 2024, 01:43 PM   #414
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Originally Posted by Ivor the Engineer View Post
So, have my well reasoned arguments made Taylor Swift think twice about flying in one of her private jets from Tokyo to LA to watch her latest beefcake run around a field chasing a ball?

Please let me know tomorrow!
He generally doesn't chase a ball. He has a ball, and other people chase him.

You could otherwise describe what he is doing as pulling a years income in a few minutes. From an economists standpoint, a prudent use of time.
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Originally Posted by Ivor the Engineer View Post
So, have my well reasoned arguments made Taylor Swift think twice about flying in one of her private jets from Tokyo to LA to watch her latest beefcake run around a field chasing a ball?

Please let me know tomorrow!
What makes you think Taylor Swift is likely to pay any attention whatsoever to you?
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I have a bet on the number of times the camera goes to a shot of Taylor Swift at Superbowl. I've gone with 36, or once every five minutes of game time, which is expected to be 180 minutes.
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I have a bet on the number of times the camera goes to a shot of Taylor Swift at Superbowl. I've gone with 36, or once every five minutes of game time, which is expected to be 180 minutes.
I've tried to make Taylor related bets with my wife and she accuses me of blasphemy.
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I have a bet on the number of times the camera goes to a shot of Taylor Swift at Superbowl. I've gone with 36, or once every five minutes of game time, which is expected to be 180 minutes.
It's a drinking competition waiting to happen.
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I'm hoping that by some freak accident the ball will be thrown in the wrong direction and Taylor Swift will catch it and then throw it back and accidentally score the winning goal for whichever team is the one her boyfriend isn't on. That would generate, I feel, a satisfying amount of fuss from football fans, Taylor Swift fans, and the police called to respond to the destructive riots that followed.

I don't care for football or Taylor Swift but I do love drama.
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It's a drinking competition waiting to happen.
That's what I thought, too, but the game started at noon here, so a touch early.

Just on a side note, I know nothing about Taylor's boyfriend other than he plays for the Chiefs.

As of now, I know something about him - he's a petulant little twat. I don't even know why, but he threw a spat and basically head-butted his own coach in the first half. Grumpy little man.
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Originally Posted by The Atheist View Post
That's what I thought, too, but the game started at noon here, so a touch early.

Just on a side note, I know nothing about Taylor's boyfriend other than he plays for the Chiefs.

As of now, I know something about him - he's a petulant little twat. I don't even know why, but he threw a spat and basically head-butted his own coach in the first half. Grumpy little man.
I know nothing about him either. He did that? Good reason for Taylor to dump him, if that's what he does during a disagreement.
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Originally Posted by The Atheist View Post

As of now, I know something about him - he's a petulant little twat. I don't even know why, but he threw a spat and basically head-butted his own coach in the first half. Grumpy little man.
Maybe that is just how American footballers communicate.
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So, did Taylor endorse Biden yet?

I mean, that was the whole point, right?
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Maybe that is just how American footballers communicate.
Hard to know - I very rarely watch the game and only did today because it was on free to air for some reason.

I'm concerned that if he's happy to behave like that on international TV, with viewing in the hundreds of millions, and a 60-70,000-strong crowd at the stadium, how does he behave in the privacy of his home?

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So, did Taylor endorse Biden yet?

I mean, that was the whole point, right?
I think that's scheduled for tomorrow.
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That's what I thought, too, but the game started at noon here, so a touch early.

Just on a side note, I know nothing about Taylor's boyfriend other than he plays for the Chiefs.

As of now, I know something about him - he's a petulant little twat. I don't even know why, but he threw a spat and basically head-butted his own coach in the first half. Grumpy little man.
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I know nothing about him either. He did that? Good reason for Taylor to dump him, if that's what he does during a disagreement.
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I do have some sympathy with her and other wealthy people's predicament with respect to relationships. It seems to me that having vast wealth either limits your choice of partner to a similarly wealthy person (a rather narrow pool of often not very well adjusted or even nice people), or if she opts for a "normal" person her wealth acts as a barrier between her and them. A normal person can't ever get close to keeping up with Taylor's lifestyle and constant handouts would make most people feel like an accessory at best or a prostitute at worst.
Interesting that she breaks her ovaries off to come and cheer him on. Women often do that for men. I wonder if he'll be in the crowd supporting her as she embarks on the RoW leg of Eras?

IIRC, they're both 34. He's probably much closer to the end of his football career than she is to her music career. Is he any good at (or at least interested in) anything else, or will he fall into alcoholism/drug misuse and start having affairs with women hanging round the golf club bar?

Had to laugh at this:

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A baker has created a sculpture of Taylor Swift out of cake ahead of the Super Bowl on Sunday.

Lara Mason's video of her making the giant sculpture has so far clocked up more than three million views on TikTok.

Using almost 130kg (287lbs) of ingredients, Mrs Mason sculpted the cake in 38 hours over a week.

In the sculpture, Swift was represented holding the Super Bowl trophy above her head while wearing a Kansas City Chiefs sweater - in support of her boyfriend, Chiefs player Travis Kelce.

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Mrs Mason initially planned to build a cake replica of Travis Kelce in a Taylor Swift Eras Tour T-shirt, holding her recently won Grammy Award for album of the year.

Unfortunately she said she ran out of time so Swift was left standing next to a blank space.
Is the journalist trying to make a point about Swift's choice in men, or was it just a pun?

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On surface this looks like the kind of suit that will not hold up, but at the same time I wonder if the information about fuel consumption and the like is aided in any real way by specifying locations, and whether it is essential to the information for it to be so timely.

I'm just thinking that if the person being sued were to withhold the actual location of flights for a specified period of time, and just publish the pertinent consumption figures with a note that for the safety of the performer the location, though known, will be withheld for a month, there wouldn't be much of a case. In fact, the performer's safety would be greater than if she were to fly commercially, where all flights are easily tracked.
According to the story, he posts them "a day later". I don't see any obvious safety reason why it would need to be delayed longer than that (like a whole month). Her lawyers and PR people are making that claim, but I'm skeptical. I don't doubt that she has stalkers but with a day's delay she would be long gone from the airport by the time the info is published. Then, at best you might be able to figure out what city she's in.
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So, did Taylor endorse Biden yet?

I mean, that was the whole point, right?
She's going with Trump

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I signed and was responsible for the Music Modernization Act for Taylor Swift and all other Musical Artists. Joe Biden didn't do anything for Taylor, and never will. There's no way she could endorse Crooked Joe Biden, the worst and most corrupt President in the History of our Country, and be disloyal to the man who made her so much money. Besides that, I like her boyfriend, Travis, even though he may be a Liberal, and probably can't stand me!
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According to the story, he posts them "a day later". I don't see any obvious safety reason why it would need to be delayed longer than that (like a whole month). Her lawyers and PR people are making that claim, but I'm skeptical. I don't doubt that she has stalkers but with a day's delay she would be long gone from the airport by the time the info is published. Then, at best you might be able to figure out what city she's in.
While that's a mitigating factor, and of course the whole point of a celebrity tour is that you know where they're going to be, it seems silly that Swift and her entourage can stalk themselves but sue someone who joins in. But from the point of view of defending one's actions, and also from the presumed point of view of commenting not on the tour but on the fuel use, though the delay should not be necessary, it ought to stop the lawsuit dead without effectively changing the point of the exercise.

Mind you, it looks to me as if the content of the lawsuit is to say that while you can print posters telling the world where you're going, it's a sin to read them aloud. But craziness these days is no disqualification.
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If the info is public and someone is a very rich and determined stalker how are they to be prevented from getting this info whether someone collates it on a website or not? If being stalked is the reason for wanting to shutdown this fella?
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If the info is public and someone is a very rich and determined stalker how are they to be prevented from getting this info whether someone collates it on a website or not? If being stalked is the reason for wanting to shutdown this fella?
That's a pretty good definition of a Swiftie who can afford to see her perform live!
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Hard to know - I very rarely watch the game and only did today because it was on free to air for some reason.

I'm concerned that if he's happy to behave like that on international TV, with viewing in the hundreds of millions, and a 60-70,000-strong crowd at the stadium, how does he behave in the privacy of his home?
Professional athletes - I should say male professional athletes - are conditioned to high levels of adrenaline and testosterone. I noticed that the players in this particular match behaved generally more aggressively on the field than do, say, rugby players. Not saying that rugby players can't act aggressively, but in today's match every time a player caught a pass, or made a tackle, they yelled, stamped the ground and pumped their fists as though blowing off excess energy. And this was happening constantly. Well, as much as anything is constant in a game that is so frequently stopping and starting.

The thing is, this happens in the context of what is a very important football match - the most important one of the year. Adrenaline and testosterone levels must be running at outrageous levels. If there is any evidence that Kelsey is that aggressive off the field, I haven't seen it yet.
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The thing is, this happens in the context of what is a very important football match - the most important one of the year. Adrenaline and testosterone levels must be running at outrageous levels. If there is any evidence that Kelsey is that aggressive off the field, I haven't seen it yet.
Not buying it. The soccer and rugby world cups and the Olympics provide equal or greater pressure and don't cause players to lose their cool. These guys are highly-paid professionals and any rugby player doing what Kelce did would be dumped.

I'm sure there was case of another high-profile sports star with a beautiful high-profile blonde girlfriend who, when he thought she was going to dump him, blew her brains out through the bathroom door.

People who can't keep their emotions in check usually struggle to keep their emotions in check.

I'm also not the only one thinking this way: https://www.news.com.au/sport/nfl/wo...57a2ce00efb23f

https://evoke.ie/2024/02/12/entertai...-kelce-actions
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No of course not. It was a pretty exceptional demonstration. But again, I haven't seen any evidence of aggression off the field at this time.

And you do see testosterone-jacked rugby players behaving badly off the field, so it certainly happens. But let's not judge someone before there's any evidence, yeah?
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Okay I know this is in social issues not music etc, but I’ve been trying to think of the biggest musical phenomenon since the Beatles (which will never be bettered) and I believe it’s Taylor.
I am inclined to agree. I would say Madonna is proably second place but we have need anything like Taylor Swift for since the Beatles.
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That's a pretty good definition of a Swiftie who can afford to see her perform live!
Tickets for Swift are not much more expensive then what you pay for ANY big name act nowdays,
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So, did Taylor endorse Biden yet?

I mean, that was the whole point, right?
She is probably waiting unitl Biden gets the nomination.
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Nah, republicans have long noticed the hypocrisy of rich lefties preaching to the poor masses about climate from their mansions and private jets.
I agree it is a bad look, but that does not mean the rich lefties are not right about climate change.
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No of course not. It was a pretty exceptional demonstration. But again, I haven't seen any evidence of aggression off the field at this time.

And you do see testosterone-jacked rugby players behaving badly off the field, so it certainly happens. But let's not judge someone before there's any evidence, yeah?
Kelse *was* off the field, it was on the sidelines.

And it wasn't his first show of temper, in an earlier game he'd thrown a helmet because of an argument with the coach.
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Does anyone know if Swift saw the incident during the game?
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Kelse *was* off the field, it was on the sidelines.
I mean not during a game.
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