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Old 23rd February 2023, 04:02 PM   #41
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Originally Posted by MarkCorrigan View Post
All the talk about Donnie Jr living off daddy is missing the point. He's following in the proud Trump tradition of living off the success of the previous head of the family. The only real difference is that Fred Trump actually WAS successful.
Is that what they call "nepo-babies"?
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Old 23rd February 2023, 06:19 PM   #42
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...ng-interviews/

Georgia juror tries to destroy case against Trump. WTAF.
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Old 23rd February 2023, 08:06 PM   #43
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Originally Posted by a_unique_person View Post
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Georgia juror tries to destroy case against Trump. WTAF.
Could you please clarify this for those of us who the WAPo is behind a paywall? Is this the flakey jury forewoman who's been going around giving news interviews or is this a different juror who is purposefully sabotaging things?

"tries to destroy" implies intent.
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I saw part of Trump’s press conference in East Palestine.

He felt it necessary to brag about Trump water while he was claiming he brought some for the survivors.

Spy Magazine was right to call him a short-fingered vulgarian.
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Originally Posted by Skeptic Ginger View Post
Could you please clarify this for those of us who the WAPo is behind a paywall? Is this the flakey jury forewoman who's been going around giving news interviews or is this a different juror who is purposefully sabotaging things?

"tries to destroy" implies intent.
She's not doing it to save Trump. She's doing it to get attention.
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Old 23rd February 2023, 09:58 PM   #46
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Originally Posted by a_unique_person View Post
She's not doing it to save Trump. She's doing it to get attention.
So not someone new then out to get Trump. Thanks. This talkative forewoman was excited to shake Giuliani's hand and wished she could have sworn Trump in. Impression: quite the flake but probably honest otherwise.

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If she was honest with herself she would know that her actions could sink the Trump prosecution. Probably a narcissist.
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Originally Posted by a_unique_person View Post
If she was honest with herself she would know that her actions could sink the Trump prosecution. Probably a narcissist.
I think there's a lot of speculation but little chance Kohr's attention-seeking interviews ill affect an indictment against Trump:

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But in conversations with The Independent on Wednesday, two experts with litigation experience, including criminal prosecution, said that these fears were overblown.

Steve Plafker, a retired deputy district attorney for the county of Los Angeles, said that Ms Kohrs’ remarks would be a “drop in the bucket” compared to the entirety of the public speculation that has taken place around this case, and noted that her remarks did not even occur as a trial was underway. Finding jurors who were unfamiliar with her remarks would merely be part of the jury selection process should that take place, he asserted.

“In light of the publicity Mr Trump, or any politician for that matter, attracts generally, this woman's statements are a drop in the bucket, actually the ocean,” Mr Plafker explained. “I do not see any chance of prejudice arising from them.”

He added that there was little chance of Mr Honig’s fears of Mr Trump’s attorneys filing successfully for potential charges to be dismissed.

“Even if I am wrong, there is no chance of their leading to a mistrial. Any danger of prejudice resulting from pre-trial publicity is handled at the time of jury selection. Mistrials result from problems arising during trial,” Mr Plafker went on.
“If this woman had been exercising good judgment, she would have gone home and kept her mouth shut, but I doubt that anything she said would make a prosecutor's job any more difficult than it already is.”

Norm Eisen, who served as a litigator for the high-powered DC law firm Zuckerman Spaeder LLP – as well as White House special counsel – concurred. The only real danger arising from Ms Kohrs’s comments, he asserted, could come in the form of an opportunity for Mr Trump’s team to file pointless motions as a delay tactic.

“There’s now a media circus around Ms Kohrs’ comments,” Mr Eisen explained. “I think it’d be better for her on the whole to be a little more restrained. Her media tour is a bit of a distraction from the underlying substantive questions of guilt or innocence. Moreover, it creates an opportunity for a prospective efendant known for filing frivolous legal motions to make more.“

But, he added: “Donald Trump may very well attempt to file some kind of a motion about the foreperson’s statements. But legally, they’re not significant.”
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The former president issue is the main issue. We tend to give them a slap on the hand and let them go. The Georgia woman comments almost insignificant in comparison. And she leaked out almost no details.
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Originally Posted by Skeptic Ginger View Post
Could you please clarify this for those of us who the WAPo is behind a paywall? Is this the flakey jury forewoman who's been going around giving news interviews or is this a different juror who is purposefully sabotaging things?

"tries to destroy" implies intent.
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I am just paranoid enough to give in to a potential conspiracy theory that a Trump fixer paid Kohrs (Georgia jury woman) to talk to the press and try and taint the process.

However, my more rational side tells me she is just an attention seeker.
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Old 24th February 2023, 01:26 PM   #52
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Originally Posted by ZiprHead View Post
Thanks for that. WAPO used to be able to open in the incognito mode, but they've blocked that now, too. I think this is the most important point from the linked article:

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“At bottom, the juror hasn’t in any way violated her obligation to keep the deliberative process secret,” said Anthony Kreis, a law professor at Georgia State University. “And she hasn’t released information in the public domain that already hasn’t been either known or widely speculated. So, the idea that she has, in any way, tainted the case or caused Fani Willis headaches is misguided.”
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I am just paranoid enough to give in to a potential conspiracy theory that a Trump fixer paid Kohrs (Georgia jury woman) to talk to the press and try and taint the process.

However, my more rational side tells me she is just an attention seeker.
In her interviews she just seems giddy at being part of history. She said her greatest thrill was shaking Rudy Giuliani's hand. She has also been careful not to reveal anything that wasn't in the published report. If she wanted to taint the process she wasn't very effective.
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Old 24th February 2023, 03:53 PM   #54
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Thanks.

Giddy about sums it up. I imagine it's a tad hard to come down from being in the sooper secret society for 9 months and now it's over. Some people would be sick of it and glad it was over while others might have been on a high and not wanted it to end.

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Most legal experts think the interview with the Jury Foreman will have zero impact on the legal aspects of the case.
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Another slew of bad news for Trump, with him dropping in the GOP polls. He seems to be getting more deseperate with every bid for attention.
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Another slew of bad news for Trump, with him dropping in the GOP polls. He seems to be getting more deseperate with every bid for attention.
He hasn't thrown out enough paper towels or enough of his "great" bottled water.
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He hasn't thrown out enough paper towels or enough of his "great" bottled water.
What, Flint MI is now fine on the water front?
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Georgia juror tries to destroy case against Trump. WTAF.
I just don't understand why cases have to go to grand juries before they are tried. Just do the right thing, make prosecutors career civil servants who are legal experts and give them the authority to prosecute based on the evidence in the investigation file.
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I just don't understand why cases have to go to grand juries before they are tried. Just do the right thing, make prosecutors career civil servants who are legal experts and give them the authority to prosecute based on the evidence in the investigation file.
If a crime can be defined as "infamous," it's in the Constitution.
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I suppose this goes here.

Jimmy Kimmel got under Trump’s thin skin—so much so that officials tried to muzzle the host
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Remember though, it's Obama who is the thin-skinned Narcisist

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Trump wants to go on a revenge tour?

Yeah, that’s normal - that is not at all a sign of a mental health issue.
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Trump wants to go on a revenge tour?

Yeah, that’s normal - that is not at all a sign of a mental health issue.
Trump is perfectly normal....for a pathological liar and someone with narcissistic personality disorder.
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(Wasn't sure where to put this... sort of fits under the Jan6 and the Trump crime threads, but I guess here is as good a place as any.)

From: CTV News
...Trump can be sued by injured Capitol Police officers and Democratic lawmakers over the Jan. 6, 2021, insurrection at the U.S. Capitol, the Justice Department said Thursday in a federal court case testing Trump's legal vulnerability for his speech before the riot....the Justice Department urged a federal appeals court in Washington to allow the lawsuits to move forward, writing that "no part of a President's official responsibilities includes the incitement of imminent private violence."...Justice Department lawyers said the court should reject Trump's argument that "absolutely immunity" shields him from being sued because the remarks were in line with his official duties.... The lawsuits, filed by Rep. Eric Swalwell, D-Calif., officers James Blassingame and Sidney Hemby, and later joined by other House Democrats, argue that Trump and others made "false and incendiary allegations of fraud and theft, and in direct response to the Defendant's express calls for violence at the rally, a violent mob attacked the U.S. Capitol."

I'll feel better once the court itself makes a decision, but its good that the Justice department isn't deciding to sheild Trump for some symbolic "must defend the office" reason.
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First De Santis. Now Fox cancels Trump.


https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...h-sean-hannity


Fox not having Trump on since September last year.
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First De Santis. Now Fox cancels Trump.


https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...h-sean-hannity


Fox not having Trump on since September last year.
Fox is learning the hard way that when they lay down with the dog, they got up with 1.6 Billion fleas.
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https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...kbarhover&ei=7

Yeah...um...so....yeah bat **** crazy. That's all I got here.
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Yeah...um...so....yeah bat **** crazy. That's all I got here.
What else can be said but that?

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Fox is learning the hard way that when they lay down with the dog, they got up with 1.6 Billion fleas.
Not so sure about that, it hasn't seemed to affect them given they continue to repeat the same lies.

Laura Ingraham recently Tweeted Trump worked hard every day at his oval desk. People would bring him proposals then he'd listen to the pros and cons and make a decision.



Kayliegh McIninny claimed Biden/Democrats were the liars.

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Not so sure about that, it hasn't seemed to affect them given they continue to repeat the same lies.

Laura Ingraham recently Tweeted Trump worked hard every day at his oval desk. People would bring him proposals then he'd listen to the pros and cons and make a decision.



Kayliegh McIninny claimed Biden/Democrats were the liars.
Those aren't the "same lies"; they aren't "stolen/rigged election" lies.
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Those aren't the "same lies"; they aren't "stolen/rigged election" lies.
Like that's the only lie Fox spouted because it was in the testimony? How about the lot of them telling each other how much they really hated Trump while they pretended to like and praise him on their shows?

It's pretty safe to extrapolate that Ingraham didn't really believe Trump was hard working.

And McIninny couldn't possibly believe Trump was not the liar in chief.


Or did I miss your sarcasm alert?

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Fox is learning the hard way that when they lay down with the dog, they got up with 1.6 Billion fleas.
Trump's open attack on Rupert did not help matters much either.
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Yeah...um...so....yeah bat **** crazy. That's all I got here.

"Reopen the frontier"?
I know some people say the Republicans want to take us back to the 1800s, but that's a bit much.
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Yeah...um...so....yeah bat **** crazy. That's all I got here.
Particular when you consider what most of the public lands are like.....people are not going to want to go live in the middle of the Mojave desert.
And the land could not support cities anyway.
I know. I work or the federal agency that manages most of the public lands.
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"Reopen the frontier"?
I know some people say the Republicans want to take us back to the 1800s, but that's a bit much.
Hey, the lands that Donnie is talkign about are the lands that nobody homesteaded because you just cannot make a living off of them.
Not a great site for a city.
Hey, Donnie, you want to build cities, buy a copy of Sim City, A lot cheape then what you propose.
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I should qualify what I just said.SOme of the public lands have a small amount of economic value for grazing or maybe mining, but that's it. Not enough economic value to support a huge city.
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Just read about Trump GOlden Ticket stunt at CPAC.
So now he is doing bad Willy Wonka imitations.
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He's thinking he wants to build another Las Vegas. But call it TrumpTown.
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