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San Fran proposes $5 million in black reperations

Hercules56 said:
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/sa...ck-resident-total-debt-forgiveness?yptr=yahoo

I'm not against reparations per se, but I don't know if this is the right way to do it. Personally I'd prefer reparations to African Americans in the form of free college tuition, free healthcare, free childcare, free business loans, things like that. Debt forgiveness is also a good idea I guess.

Blanket checks? Not so sure.
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Why do you think those things are better than cash?
 
Hercules56 said:
I believe that entitlements should be well-regulated. We want to make sure they are spent on appropriate things.
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"We"? "appropriate things"?

Sorry but that seems as if you are treating them less than full adults able to make their own decisions, smacks a tad of a master/slave dynamic., "we" know what is best for "you"?
 
Darat said:
"We"? "appropriate things"?

Sorry but that seems as if you are treating them less than full adults able to make their own decisions, smacks a tad of a master/slave dynamic., "we" know what is best for "you"?
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So you believe that EBT cards that can only be used for certain types of foods, Section 8 vouchers, Medicaid benefits, are part of the master/slave dynamic since they make sure that benefits to the poor are only spent on certain items and not simply a cash entitlement?
 
5 million dollars is nothing within a rounding error for a city the size of San Francisco. Without even bothering to do it I know I could go look up it's budget and the number of things it spends more than 5 million on that literally nobody could be paid to care about is a lot.

To speak the language they'll understand, any outrage directed at this is just virtue signaling.

Jacksonville spent 18 million on the "LERP" statue alone year or two back and we are nowhere near San Francisco's size.

https://www.actionnewsjax.com/news/...es-st-johns-river/QTYKQJ44HBHYBEBDTRSECGROLI/
 
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They should probably spend that five million on more homeless services.

Also, something something dane-geld something never get rid of the dane. There should be no reparations without first having a broad consensus in the African-American community the payments are both necessary and sufficient. Once they are paid, there should be no more talk of reparations, and no more complaints of historic lack of opportunity.

If the BLM riots of recent years are any indication, all San Francisco is doing is normalizing regular extortion payments. It's a rounding error right now, but those payments are going to add up over time, with no end in sight, and no real progress being made. It's like buying indulgences, only somehow worse.
 
A lot of people are pretty awful when it comes to money management. Using the money for specific things we know help people live happier, healthier lives is likely to help the intended recipients more than just giving them cash. Not because they're black, but because they're human.
 
JoeMorgue said:
5 million dollars is nothing within a rounding error for a city the size of San Francisco. Without even bothering to do it I know I could go look up it's budget and the number of things it spends more than 5 million on that literally nobody could be paid to care about is a lot.

To speak the language they'll understand, any outrage directed at this is just virtue signaling.

Jacksonville spent 18 million on the "LERP" statue alone year or two back and we are nowhere near San Francisco's size.

https://www.actionnewsjax.com/news/...es-st-johns-river/QTYKQJ44HBHYBEBDTRSECGROLI/
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Just one bit of correction. Jacksonville actually has a higher population than San Francisco (comparing city to city). The Bay Area in total is far larger than Jacksonville metro though. Also, San Fran is one of the highest income areas in the country, so their tax base is significantly bigger.
 
Hercules56 said:
So you believe that EBT cards that can only be used for certain types of foods, Section 8 vouchers, Medicaid benefits, are part of the master/slave dynamic since they make sure that benefits to the poor are only spent on certain items and not simply a cash entitlement?
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I thought we were talking about reparations? I.e. making amends for slavery?
 
theprestige said:
They should probably spend that five million on more homeless services.

Also, something something dane-geld something never get rid of the dane. There should be no reparations without first having a broad consensus in the African-American community the payments are both necessary and sufficient. Once they are paid, there should be no more talk of reparations, and no more complaints of historic lack of opportunity.

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Any chance you'll provide the ..er.. reasoning behind your proclamations? Especially the highlighted one?
 
lobosrul5 said:
Wow, $5 million to the last black man in San Fran. Good for him!

I'm making a dumb joke...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Last_Black_Man_in_San_Francisco

ETA: looking it up there are about 49,000 black people in San Fran, including Black Hispanic. So split evenly $5 million is just $102 a person.
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Pretty sure the article leads with $5mil to each qualifying person. The qualifiers are born in Frisco between '46 and '95, 10 yrs of identifying as being black in public records, 13 years residency in SF. Pretty sure there might be some professional athletes that could meet that standard.

Seems more fair to require evidence of having been short-ended to the tune of $5mil to qualify for reparations, since the proposed reparations are not based on chattel slavery (Cali was always a free State). Five mil in losses for an 18yo Frisco native seems like a lot of lost in come.
 
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