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skepticalcriticalguy said:
And here's the main reason I don't think it was the hijackers (at least not alone.) Remember the morning of 9/11, as the reporters and the firemen and the police officers in New York were reporting on all networks "huge explosions," multiple explosions, secondary devices? I remember it well. It's all on the web for us to watch again.
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So in your world a massive building that was just hit by an airplane going 400mph and burning with huge fires does NOT make noise????

Super heated steel will expand and and in doing so welds, rivets and bolts will snap with explosive sounds. Things inside the plane will also explode such as oxygen generators.

All these far more logical the any wild idea that explosives were brought into the buildings.
 
skepticalcriticalguy said:
Do I think their intelligence apparatus could infiltrate our government or get that lucky? No. I don't.
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What part of the 9/11 plot required an infiltration of our gov't?

Still waiting for a fact from you, speculative questions just don't cut it here.
 
skepticalcriticalguy said:
Why is that? Isn't it the job of the media to watchdog the government? What I said was if inside job turned out to be true, wouldn't they have been remiss, even criminal, in not even investigating the possibility all this time?
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I repeat: you are speaking nonsense. Don't make me sic Arkan Wolfshade and his compendium of logical fallacies on you.
 
Oh, and one other thing scg, when you get back, could you start your own thread? This thread is for lewd jokes and play-on-words about Hustler and CTists. :D
 
skepticalcriticalguy said:
Wait, is it mere conspiracy theory that the CIA trained and funded the Mujahdeen as insurgents in Afghanistan from '79-'89, or so? They became the Taliban. And to an extent, Al Qaida. Isn't that fact?
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No, it is not a fact.

I've been reading about it since the early 80s!
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Excellent, so it should be no problem for you to link to an article from a reliable source showing how the insurgents funded and trained by the CIA became the Taliban. As opposed to the insurgents not trained and funded by the CIA. You do know that there were many different flavors of mujahedeen fighting the Soviets, don't you? And that the CIA did not support all of them? Now you have a clear task, and such a simple thing to prove since you've been reading about this since the 1980's!

Ah, we were told he was the black sheep, so case closed. Come on.
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Told by whom? I want to see exactly how many people/groups are in on this vast conspiracy of yours.
 
skepticalcriticalguy said:
And here's the main reason I don't think it was the hijackers (at least not alone.) Remember the morning of 9/11, as the reporters and the firemen and the police officers in New York were reporting on all networks "huge explosions," multiple explosions, secondary devices? I remember it well. It's all on the web for us to watch again.
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It's true that many people described hearing "explosions." at the WTC on that day. Most of those accounts are about the sound of the towers as they were collapsing, and some are about cars, trucks, etc. that were on fire after the collapses.

However, other accounts describe events before the collapses. For example:


Monchery, Alwish (E.M.T. E.M.S.): "Sound of popping and exploding."

Murphy, Keith (FDNY): "Sounded like bombs."

Burns, William (Lt. PAPD): "Explosions."

Terranova, Rosario (Lieutenant E.M.S.): "Kept hearing these large boom, boom."

Fitzgerald, Anthony (Lt. PAPD): "Sounded like explosions."

Rodriguez, Andrew (PAPD): "Under the assumption that the sounds were secondary bombs."

Meier, Mark (P.O. PAPD): "Like a shotgun going off."

Barriere, Wilfred (Det. PAPD): "Sounded like explosions."

Smiouskas, Richard (Lieutenant FDNY): "Like explosions."

Murray, John (Fire Marshall FDNY): "Sounded like bombs, like blockbusters."
All of the descriptions above are of bodies from the towers hitting the ground or other structures.


So, yes, many people did describe explosions, and conspiracy theorists always take these descriptions out of context. These posts of mine should help you to understand the context of these descriptions:

What they actually described hearing in and around the towers

Descriptions of the north tower elevator shaft, lobby, and basement jet fuel explosion

I hope this will help you to understand that there are rational explanations for what you feel is that strongest evidence against suicide hijacker involvement.
 
skepticalcriticalguy said:
Wait, is it mere conspiracy theory that the CIA trained and funded the Mujahdeen as insurgents in Afghanistan from '79-'89, or so? They became the Taliban. And to an extent, Al Qaida. Isn't that fact? I've been reading about it since the early 80s!
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I don't think that you could be any more wrong here. Are you implying that the Taliban and Al Qaida are the same thing?
 
And no, I do not believe that airplanes, flown by islamic hijackers, attacked and destroyed the Pentagon and WTC 1, 2 and 7. There, I said it. You can ask me what I think did happen, but that will come out in discussion. And as I mentioned, I don't claim to know beyond a doubt. But here's a hint; I have, for years, read incessantly about Intel agencies and rogue networks in our government.
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Wrong out of the box! good job.

How could you? You just talk like Alex Jones; dish out some more BS and never stop running to the next lie.

If you only had some facts!

Welcome; bring facts next time.
 
skepticalcriticalguy said:
Maybe the goal of this board should be to prove the official story, before the CT folks prove otherwise. That would be a more interesting race.
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So you have zero facts and evidence to support your ideas. You are stuck in the starter box.

The 9/11 truth movement lost the race 5 years ago; you missed it! Wrong for 5 years!

Maybe you should read some of the massive information based on facts and real logic. Seems like you are living in a CT world and have ignored facts, math, and physics. I say this before you break into a victory dance after you get frustrated from lacking facts and leave.

When did you notice you were missing facts on 9/11? How long have you been suffering from this kind of Alex Jones type of rant?
 
skepticalcriticalguy said:
See y'all!!! I'mma go git me a cold brewski!
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I wish I could be around when the beer-muscled scg comes back, but I have to go to bed and my g/f needs to use the computer. I'll check back in the morning to read the hilarity that's sure to follow!
 
skepticalcriticalguy said:
Well, shucks; I've been typing the whole time. You are an impatient lot, I see. I'm going to write this, then go for a beer. When I get back and read all your attacks and snide comments, !
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I am going to have a case of beer since you came without a single fact to support standard CT junk. As stated, 5 years wrong before you even figured out you wanted to be like Charlie Sheen and share you opinions on 9/11 truth and keep your facts a big secret.

Secret is you have no facts. Or will you ever share a real fact with us to support your CT ideas.

You rehash the stuff you read and did not even research it. UBLs past!

You say the 19 terrorist did not do 9/11 and offer no evidence.

What will your CT super ideas be? The terrorist were not good pilots?

We supported UBL and now he does not like us?

What evidence will you ignore to present total idiot ideas on 9/11?

What will you ignore to present junk on 9/11 that has nothing to do with 9/11.

What quote like "pull it" or "sounded like", or "smelled like", or "looked like" will you show proves a CT by some group of runaway idiots in the government made up of people like yourself?

Are you going to ignore all the real facts because you think it is a CT and present zero facts?

What great junk have you brought with you. So far zero facts; just talk. You now promise us your alcohol induced intelligence to show us what? No facts just talk?

What have you got that the world has missed? What great facts do you have before you earn the Pulitzer Prize?
 
notheist said:
So in your world a massive building that was just hit by an airplane going 400mph and burning with huge fires does NOT make noise????

Super heated steel will expand and and in doing so welds, rivets and bolts will snap with explosive sounds. Things inside the plane will also explode such as oxygen generators.

All these far more logical the any wild idea that explosives were brought into the buildings.
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Do not cheat and use logic it will mess up the CT guy!

welcome - use all the logic you can, i need training
 
WildCat said:
I wish I could be around when the beer-muscled scg comes back, but I have to go to bed and my g/f needs to use the computer. I'll check back in the morning to read the hilarity that's sure to follow!
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Well, I'm back. Only had 2 beers.

Ya know, this is exactly what I expected here. A bunch of smug know-it-alls. Just like "the other side." You've already "booted" me.

Let's see, there are thousands of you here, and some guy comes on, and literally gets ambushed. Several of you asked me my thoughts. Then chewed my ass for not having proof. As I mentioned, it took the whole couple hours to answer the thoughts questions.

So smug here. The time you guys spend here in one week, you could knock out some good eye-opening books that have been written over the years.

I know, I know: "Define books!" "Define years!" "Prove they were actually written!" "Prove you read them!"

So, knock yourselves out with the "hilarity that's sure to follow" my retreat. (Just so you know, I don't consider it a victory or defeat). Your world is a mess. I mean the big blue globe thingie. While you all worry about whether it was a thud or a bomb, a 45 degree angle or a 47 degree angle, some of us are waking up and have a good idea of what's going on in the governments of the world. Or at least have a glimpse of it.

The world isn't black and white. Science is, but discourse is not. And there are so many grey areas that science will never account for. Sorry, but that's the way it is.

I hope you all find some of those greay areas in your search for the truth. (If you still seek it).
 
beachnut said:
Do not cheat and use logic it will mess up the CT guy!

welcome - use all the logic you can, i need training
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Smug attack. I was warned I'd be "Hannatized" here.

You're all CTers. You just believe the official CT. Both sides have presented some good evidence. But, like the other side, you all cherry pick the evidence.
 
beachnut said:
I am going to have a case of beer since you came without a single fact to support standard CT junk. As stated, 5 years wrong before you even figured out you wanted to be like Charlie Sheen and share you opinions on 9/11 truth and keep your facts a big secret.

Secret is you have no facts. Or will you ever share a real fact with us to support your CT ideas.

You rehash the stuff you read and did not even research it. UBLs past!

You say the 19 terrorist did not do 9/11 and offer no evidence.

What will your CT super ideas be? The terrorist were not good pilots?

We supported UBL and now he does not like us?

What evidence will you ignore to present total idiot ideas on 9/11?

What will you ignore to present junk on 9/11 that has nothing to do with 9/11.

What quote like "pull it" or "sounded like", or "smelled like", or "looked like" will you show proves a CT by some group of runaway idiots in the government made up of people like yourself?

Are you going to ignore all the real facts because you think it is a CT and present zero facts?

What great junk have you brought with you. So far zero facts; just talk. You now promise us your alcohol induced intelligence to show us what? No facts just talk?

What have you got that the world has missed? What great facts do you have before you earn the Pulitzer Prize?
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Sorry, I thought this was a discussion board. My bad for posting before I learned your mores.

You sound like a very angry person. Maybe you should have that case of beer.
 
You've ignored the posts that contained data, read only the ones that contained humorous insults, then complained that you got nothing but insults.

Typtical. You have to make yourself blind to actual information to believe what you believe.
 
beachnut said:
How long have you been suffering from this kind of Alex Jones type of rant?
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First off, that makes no sense. Suffering from a rant?

Your rants sound more Jones-ian than mine.

What is this Alex Jones obsession here? I have reason to question his motives, just like you all have. But hell, you want to label me, paint me in a box, and send me away from your special group? I guess I'll go watch Terrorstorm or something. Jeesh.
 
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