Michael Mozina
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Until fairly recently, astronomers had continued along the same course as set by Zwicky. They went looking for the missing mass as ordinary matter that has simply escaped their view.
You're simply demonstrating my case for me Tim. As you note, it's only been recently that astronomers started making extraordinary claims about the nature of "dark matter". Of course extraordinary claims require extraordinary support and you don't have it.
But there has been a huge advance in astronomical technology since Zwicky's time, and "simply" has become "not so simply". Infrared astronomers today can see the dust & gas in galaxies that was invisible to Zwicky and we now know that there is not enough to make up the missing mass.
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/17/science/space/17univ.html
Ya, and just a couple of years ago we found out we've been *GROSSLY* underestimating the brightness of galaxies. Did you factor that mass in Tim? How about this little revelation:
http://www.physorg.com/news169924281.html
How do you know all this matter has to be "exotic" when you can't even be sure how many actual stars are in a galaxy yet? It's amazing how impervious your religion is to common sense. You seem to think we've already isolated all the "normal" mass in the universe when it's very clear we've been grossly underestimating the stars in a given galaxy and how bright those distant stars are too! Even still I'm sure you're just going to utterly ignore these *FACTS*.
Infrared & optical astronomers today can see the low mass stars that Zwicky could not see
Not in distant galaxy we can't. We "estimate" them.
Your whole theology is based on invisible entities that do not and never have shown up in any sort of empirical lab experiment Tim. What you're trying to pass off as "empirical" is nothing more than absolute "religious faith in the unseen". More telling is your aversion to any and all criticisms of your beliefs. The moment I point out the limitations flaws, you get all butt hurt and nasty and accuse me of "worshiping ignorance" for not bowing to your Phd.

Like I said "dark matter" started out as just a recognition of "missing mass", a realization of the limitations of our technologies. You've since turned "dark matter" into a "religion" that requires faith in the exotic unseen, and you can't even tell us it's actual energy state. Anyone that doesn't buy your faith based song and dance routine is subject to personal attacks galore. Yawn.