Moderated The NYPD and Molten Concrete

Dog Town · Feb 11, 2013

yankee451 said:
Back on topic...

So far the NYPD lied, the FDNY lied, FEMA lied and the fake truth movement agrees with them. Currently the avoided question is whether the USGS maps of REALLY HOT stuff can be considered as trustworthy as the other false claims.

Fallacy much?

yankee451 · Feb 11, 2013

tsig said:
You can't trust the maps the govmt falsified the terrain.

Where do you get the information that supports the claim the ground was 1000 kelvin in places, days after 9/11?

Can any single one of you back up any single one of your assumptions?

beachnut · Feb 11, 2013

Fantasy leads to Rant against Police

yankee451 said:
And that as exactly zip to do with the subject at hand, but thanks for sharing your concern.

When did you first start your fantasy of missiles not in the inventory on 911?

yankee451 said:
By then, the Port Authority of New York knew the Twin Towers were asbestos bombs which the public would’t allow to be destroyed by controlled demolition, and which the Port Authority wasn’t willing to foot the bill of the billions of dollars to have them dismantled piece by piece.

Source? lol

I love how your wood stove debunked your purpose free fire rant.

yankee451 said:
Also provided by the intrepid police department who are actively indoctrinating school children to believe blatant falshoods, we have this "proof" of a jet.

[URL="http://yankee451.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/6310312271.jpg"]http://yankee451.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/6310312271.jpg[/URL]

Your lie, nonsense about the landing gear, a failed statement. Why do you lie about 911, and offer no evidence? Do you hate all police, or the only the fantasy ones in your delusional 911 theory?
Oops, RADAR data backs up the truth, Flt 11 and 175 did it in NYC.
RADAR is reality.
http://www.ntsb.gov/doclib/foia/9_11/Rec_Radar_Data_Study_all_aircraft.pdf Your claim, your theory, your nonsense based on nothing; Fantasy
http://yankee451.com/about-me-2/

Rational people don't lie about the Passengers on flight 11, 175, 93, and 77. Why do you? Rational people don't make up fantasy about missiles on 911. Rational people would contact the NYCPM before making up more failed claims. Have you?

What did they say?
The New York City Police Museum
100 Old Slip
New York, NY 10005
tel: 212-480-3100
fax: 212-480-9757
email: [email protected]

What did they say, when you told them they might ob made a mistake when the gun was crushed and corroded on 911, and all the energy of collapse encased it in WTC debris.

What was your point besides rage against the police and the government. What percent of the museum is the display? Any real research?

yankee451 · Feb 12, 2013

beachnut said:
When did you first start your fantasy of missiles not in the inventory on 911?

It's not a fantasy.

Missiles not in inventory would be better suited for a covert operation, doncha think?

beachnut said:
Your lie, nonsense about the landing gear, a failed statement.

The landing gear didn't have anything to do with that part of the wing between the engine mount and the wing-tip after it was seperated from the rest of the plane. Or are you claiming the jet was still intact after it passed through the exterior walls?

beachnut said:
Why do you lie about 911,

I don't.

beachnut said:
and offer no evidence?

I do.

beachnut said:
Do you hate all police,

I don't hate anyone.

beachnut said:
or the only the fantasy ones in your delusional 911 theory?

See above.

beachnut said:
Oops, RADAR data backs up the truth, Flt 11 and 175 did it in NYC.
RADAR is reality.

Radar can be faked as easily as colored maps from the USGS.

beachnut said:
Your claim, your theory, your nonsense based on nothing; Fantasy
http://yankee451.com/about-me-2/

If it was just fantasy I doubt you'd be so angered by it. Seems like I struck a nerve and you're upset because it exposes you as a believer of nonsense. You want the world to be back the way it was before my evidence showed missiles in crossfire are the best explanation, so you do what people have done for ages, you shoot the messenger. Doesn't change the facts.

beachnut said:
Rational people don't lie about the Passengers on flight 11, 175, 93, and 77. Why do you? Rational people don't make up fantasy about missiles on 911. Rational people would contact the NYCPM before making up more failed claims. Have you?

What did they say?
The New York City Police Museum
100 Old Slip
New York, NY 10005
tel: 212-480-3100
fax: 212-480-9757
email: [email protected]

What did they say, when you told them they might ob made a mistake when the gun was crushed and corroded on 911, and all the energy of collapse encased it in WTC debris.

What was your point besides rage against the police and the government. What percent of the museum is the display? Any real research?

I intend to pay them a visit some day, trust me. In the meantime, I relied on science to prove the concrete didn't melt. Care to contest that conclusion or are you content with throwing a tantrum?

tsig · Feb 12, 2013

yankee451 said:
Where do you get the information that supports the claim the ground was 1000 kelvin in places, days after 9/11?

Can any single one of you back up any single one of your assumptions?

Kelvin talked.

beachnut · Feb 12, 2013

Why 451 makes up Fantasy?

Originally Posted by beachnut
When did you first start your fantasy of missiles not in the inventory on 911?

yankee451 said:
It's not a fantasy.

The missile did not exist. That is a fantasy. You can't even pick a missile in the USAF inventory.
http://yankee451.com/2012/02/28/911-for-psychos/
Your family knows you are off in a fantasy world on 911?

yankee451 said:
Missiles not in inventory would be better suited for a covert operation, doncha think?

Yes, missiles not in the inventory are perfect for your fantasy.

Originally Posted by beachnut
Your lie, nonsense about the landing gear, a failed statement.

yankee451 said:
The landing gear didn't have anything to do with that part of the wing between the engine mount and the wing-tip after it was seperated from the rest of the plane. Or are you claiming the jet was still intact after it passed through the exterior walls?

What? Your fantasy is failing as you don't make a lick of sense.

Originally Posted by beachnut
Why do you lie about 911,

yankee451 said:
I don't.

? You say aircraft did not hit the WTC.
Video shows aircraft hitting the WTC, eye witnesses do too, and RADAR verifies it. Three sets of evidence make your claim a BIG lie. Like Hitler, you make up a BIG lie.

Originally Posted by beachnut
and offer no evidence?

yankee451 said:
I do.

Where is your evidence? List it. Your web site offers why you make up fantasy, but no evidence.

yankee451 said:
Also provided by the intrepid police department who are actively indoctrinating school children to believe blatant falshoods, we have this "proof" of a jet.

http://yankee451.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/6310312271.jpg

Originally Posted by beachnut
Do you hate all police,

yankee451 said:
I don't hate anyone.

yankee451 said:
Also provided by the intrepid police department who are actively indoctrinating school children to believe blatant falshoods, we have this "proof" of a jet.

http://yankee451.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/6310312271.jpg

You lie about the police, like you hate them. You lied about them? They show evidence of the aircraft which hit the WTC, you say it is false, and that is a lie.

Originally Posted by beachnut
or the only the fantasy ones in your delusional 911 theory?

yankee451 said:
See above.

I found your reason for making up lies and fantasy on 911.
http://yankee451.com/2012/02/28/911-for-psychos/

Originally Posted by beachnut
Oops, RADAR data backs up the truth, Flt 11 and 175 did it in NYC.
RADAR is reality.

yankee451 said:
Radar can be faked as easily as colored maps from the USGS.

RADAR is faked now. About another 1,000 people on the take. LOL, I can prove the RADAR is real with video, and eye witnesses. You have failed to produce any evidence.
Your wood stove debunks this thread. The wood stove.

Originally Posted by beachnut
Your claim, your theory, your nonsense based on nothing; Fantasy
http://yankee451.com/about-me-2/

yankee451 said:
If it was just fantasy I doubt you'd be so angered by it. Seems like I struck a nerve and you're upset because it exposes you as a believer of nonsense. You want the world to be back the way it was before my evidence showed missiles in crossfire are the best explanation, so you do what people have done for ages, you shoot the messenger. Doesn't change the facts.

Wrong again. You are spreading lies and fantasy. I think your family knows you are spreading fantasy. What do they say about your fantasy spreading?

You are spreading nonsense, even your parents know.
http://yankee451.com/2012/02/28/911-for-psychos/

Originally Posted by beachnut
Rational people don't lie about the Passengers on flight 11, 175, 93, and 77. Why do you? Rational people don't make up fantasy about missiles on 911. Rational people would contact the NYCPM before making up more failed claims. Have you?

What did they say?
The New York City Police Museum
100 Old Slip
New York, NY 10005
tel: 212-480-3100
fax: 212-480-9757
email: [email protected]

What did they say, when you told them they might of made a mistake when the gun was crushed and corroded on 911, and all the energy of collapse encased it in WTC debris.

What was your point besides rage against the police and the government. What percent of the museum is the display? Any real research?
YOUR ANSWER IS?

yankee451 said:
I intend to pay them a visit some day, trust me. In the meantime, I relied on science to prove the concrete didn't melt. Care to contest that conclusion or are you content with throwing a tantrum?

You never used science, you ranted about the police, like you hate them, calling them liars.
http://yankee451.com/2012/02/28/911-for-psychos/
When the NYC police see your web site, you may be visiting someone like your father with the skills of your mother.

You are the only one in your family who figured out 911? lol

911 changed everything, isn’t that what they said? Well for me, it really did change everything, but why not for the rest of my family? They’re the ones with the fancy educations…you’d think they’d be able to figure it out before I could. Unless they are hampered by their educations. http://yankee451.com/2012/02/28/911-for-psychos/

You forgot to answer the simple questions. You keep on posting more trash, and you never make a point.

yankee451 · Feb 12, 2013

beachnut said:
The missile did not exist. That is a fantasy. You can't even pick a missile in the USAF inventory.
http://yankee451.com/2012/02/28/911-for-psychos/
Your family knows you are off in a fantasy world on 911?

Yes, missiles not in the inventory are perfect for your fantasy.

What? Your fantasy is failing as you don't make a lick of sense.

? You say aircraft did not hit the WTC.
Video shows aircraft hitting the WTC, eye witnesses do too, and RADAR verifies it. Three sets of evidence make your claim a BIG lie. Like Hitler, you make up a BIG lie.

Where is your evidence? List it. Your web site offers why you make up fantasy, but no evidence.

You lie about the police, like you hate them. You lied about them? They show evidence of the aircraft which hit the WTC, you say it is false, and that is a lie.

I found your reason for making up lies and fantasy on 911.
http://yankee451.com/2012/02/28/911-for-psychos/

RADAR is faked now. About another 1,000 people on the take. LOL, I can prove the RADAR is real with video, and eye witnesses. You have failed to produce any evidence.
Your wood stove debunks this thread. The wood stove.

Wrong again. You are spreading lies and fantasy. I think your family knows you are spreading fantasy. What do they say about your fantasy spreading?

You are spreading nonsense, even your parents know.
http://yankee451.com/2012/02/28/911-for-psychos/

You never used science, you ranted about the police, like you hate them, calling them liars.
http://yankee451.com/2012/02/28/911-for-psychos/
When the NYC police see your web site, you may be visiting someone like your father with the skills of your mother.

You are the only one in your family who figured out 911? lol

You forgot to answer the simple questions. You keep on posting more trash, and you never make a point.

Well, you can't say I didn't try. Nice talking to you again (thanks for the 9/11 For Psychos plug, it's my favorite)

Ape of Good Hope · Feb 12, 2013

yankee451 said:
Nice talking to you again (thanks for the 9/11 For Psychos plug, it's my favorite)

Mine too, it's completely barking :eye-poppi

(I read the version of it you posted on ATS so I don't boost hits to your website)

Dog Town · Feb 12, 2013

Ape of Good Hope said:
Mine too, it's completely barking

(I read the version of it you posted on ATS so I don't boost hits to your website)

Holy insane!
:jaw-dropp

Sabretooth · Feb 12, 2013

Ape of Good Hope said:
Mine too, it's completely barking

(I read the version of it you posted on ATS so I don't boost hits to your website)

Wow

ATS said:
But where to begin; HOW to begin to reach an entranced people who will change their reality to suit the TV? Sane people don’t believe aluminum wings can slice structural steel columns, but most Americans sure do. Americans tend to believe that if you speed up anything to 500 MPH it’ll cut through just about anything else. That doesn’t bode well for the gene pool.

I take it 451 never passed physics class...or isn't old enough to have studied the subject...

LSSBB · Feb 12, 2013

Sabretooth said:
Wow

I take it 451 never passed physics class...or isn't old enough to have studied the subject...

He's got a complex world of fantasy built up because he doesn't know the difference between break and slice.

ehcks · Feb 12, 2013

LSSBB said:
He's got a complex world of fantasy built up because he doesn't know the difference between break and slice.

In my fantasies, bludgeoning and slashing are very different damage types. Maybe he should play some D&D?

yankee451 · Feb 12, 2013

LSSBB said:
He's got a complex world of fantasy built up because he doesn't know the difference between break and slice.

Goodnes gracious, did I forget to cross a T?

The fact that you choose to debate whether the steel is broken or sliced tells me you're reluctant to explain how a jet wing could do either when it was no longer connected to the rest of the jet.

And what about these colmns, sliced or broken? Can any of you geniuses tell me why the columns on the right would be cut so different than the columns on the left?

Right side; nice clean cuts:

Left side; bent columns and jagged edges:

yankee451 · Feb 12, 2013

ehcks said:
In my fantasies, bludgeoning and slashing are very different damage types. Maybe he should play some D&D?

Sounds like someone needs to play a little less.

yankee451 · Feb 12, 2013

LSSBB said:
He's got a complex world of fantasy built up because he doesn't know the difference between break and slice.

Translation:

"I'll clutch at any straw to avoid the topic at hand"

Macgyver1968 · Feb 12, 2013

So what made the hole in the tower?

yankee451 · Feb 12, 2013

One question at a time:

From what I understand the wing disintegrated at the same time it (sheared, broke, cut, sliced "pushed-aside") the steel.

Is that so? Did the wing break up at the same time it was cutting through the exterior walls?

yankee451 · Feb 12, 2013

Macgyver1968 said:
So what made the hole in the tower?

What known weapon could make such a hole?

Like you lot I once believed jets did it but when I examined the directional damage and compared it to the trajectory of the jet it was clear they don't match. Watever caused that damage must have been small, fast and dense to bend columns like that, and it struck from the side, not head-on.

Animal · Feb 13, 2013

yankee451 said:
What known weapon could make such a hole?

An aircraft when used by suicidal pilots.

Like you lot I once believed jets did it but when I examined the directional damage and compared it to the trajectory of the jet it was clear they don't match. Watever caused that damage must have been small, fast and dense to bend columns like that, and it struck from the side, not head-on.

Aluminum cladding are not structural columns.

Then go back to Google U and take a remedial course in Vector physics.

yankee451 · Feb 13, 2013

Animal said:
Aluminum cladding are not structural columns.

Then go back to Google U and take a remedial course in Vector physics.

From what university did you graduate, and when?

You're obviously not a structural engineer, nor an architect.

The red arrows indicate the edge of the cladding. The columns are bent.

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