Haig and his Sun caused earthquakes

Jrrarglblarg said:
YouTube biblethumping again, full of unsupported assertions.
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Jrrarglblarg you're missing the point of the video Earthquakes and the Solar System in that it clearly shows past correlations with major earthquakes. Anyone can go and check the facts for themselves.

Past correlation is encouraging for any new hypothesis but can it predict the future events? That's the goal and that's what he's aiming at and doing well too as these links show :)

EARTHSPOTS: Storms and Earthquakes [Update]


THE SUN AND M8+ EARTHQUAKES: THE SPF TRIGGER

Instead of making "noises off" why not become an 0bserver ? There is a Quake Watch Coming and a little independent scrutinising would be good :thumbsup:

M Class Flare, Quake Watch Coming | S0 News August 21, 2015


Jrrarglblarg said:
And we still don't have a coupling mechanism capable of sinking the Titanic with a flashlight.
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Sure we do :) it's an electromagnetic coupling mechanism. You don't think space weather is only good for pretty auroras and radio blackouts on Earth! Do you?

The list is growing of how Space Weather affects the Earth - Moon system as this link shows ...

Driving space weather forecasts with real data
The ability to better predict solar wind conditions will provide more accurate input to those running models of the Earth's upper atmosphere and ionosphere. The UK Met Office is currently working with modellers at University College, London to provide such a service. Solar wind transients are known to disturb the Earth's upper atmosphere. Particle precipitation, variable magnetic fields and strong electrical currents generate frictional heating that causes the atmosphere to expand and the ionosphere to become disturbed and weaken. The results of such activity are;
- An expanded thermosphere that results in increased satellite drag
- Loss of HF radio and enhanced radiation that requires long-haul flights to divert from polar regions
- Geomagnetically induced currents can cause unexpected surges in power grids
- GPS navigation systems can become less accurate and signal from spacecraft can be lost
Better forecasting of such events would enable more cost-effective action to be taken by vulnerable industries. While the aircraft industry is aware of the limitations of GPS, other users such as the maritime industries, surveyors, drivers and a host of other users with an over-reliance on GPS timing and positioning will be affected.
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Space weather has also been successfully used to predict long range extreme weather here on Earth for more than 20 years.

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You can also add earthquakes, volcanoes, major weather events and climate to that list. ;)


ferd burfle said:
Matthew Cline, Haig has just (twice) demonstrated he doesn't know the difference between the electromagnetic spectrum and an electromagnet. He just throws out scientific terms willy nilly, in the same way he spews out links. You're assuming he understands what he posts.

ETA: The EU crowd indulge in lazy "Looks Like A Bunny" thinking; "if it looks like X then it is X". In the electromagnet case Haig employed the "Sounds Like A Bunny" aural version of that same "thinking".
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Sure I know the difference ;)

The difference between the electromagnetic spectrum and an electromagnet. :p

The point I was getting at is "An electromagnet is a magnet that is created when electricity flows through a conductor. The magnetic field goes around the conductor. " PERIOD!

Wires are a convenience but not essential as in the electromagnetic properties of a Birkeland current. ;)

CapelDodger said:
Could we prevent earthquakes by covering faults with tinfoil?
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Liable to make them worse dear CapelDodger :dl:
 
Serious question for you, Haig: How does the Sun affect the stresses on rocks on Earth? Specifically, please; and I unfortunately can't open links right now, so please provide it in your own words. A few things that will need answers:

1) Why does it only affect a small portion of the rock at any given time?
2) Why do these forces appear preferentially active at tectonic boundaries?
3) How do these forces account for both shallow (above the Moho) and deep (below the Moho) centers?
4) How do these forces explain the deformation of fossils? (My structural geology professor said that the only thing brachiopods were good for was drawing strain elipses; half the class was paleontology students!)
5) Is there any increase or decrease in tectonic activity around magnetic reversals? If not, why not?

There are others, but if you could answer those--prefereably sans laughing dog--it would be greatly appreciated.
 
Dinwar said:
Serious question for you, Haig: How does the Sun affect the stresses on rocks on Earth? Specifically, please; and I unfortunately can't open links right now, so please provide it in your own words. A few things that will need answers:

1) Why does it only affect a small portion of the rock at any given time?
2) Why do these forces appear preferentially active at tectonic boundaries?
3) How do these forces account for both shallow (above the Moho) and deep (below the Moho) centers?
4) How do these forces explain the deformation of fossils? (My structural geology professor said that the only thing brachiopods were good for was drawing strain elipses; half the class was paleontology students!)
5) Is there any increase or decrease in tectonic activity around magnetic reversals? If not, why not?

There are others, but if you could answer those--prefereably sans laughing dog--it would be greatly appreciated.
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Welcome to the thread Dinwar.

Serious question for you too, Dinwar: You say you, unfortunately, can't open links right now, so please provide answers in my own words and not links.: Seriously? :eye-poppi

I prefer short and sweet posts with links so folk can do their own research. So just wait until you can open links and answer your own questions. It's the best way, trust me ;)

Here is some starting links HERE and HERE ... lots more in the thread ... scroll back and dig in :cool:
 
Haig said:
Serious question for you too, Dinwar: You say you, unfortunately, can't open links right now, so please provide answers in my own words and not links.: Seriously?
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Yes. The computer I'm on won't allow me to do so (company laptop with absurd protections on it). I also think it fair to ask a researcher to summarize the data they're presenting, and their arguments.

I prefer short and sweet posts with links so folk can do their own research.
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I'm not going to do your work for you. I'm asking you what YOUR answers to these questions are. If you are unwilling to provide those, it calls into question your credibility. No offense intended--it's the general rule of thumb in science.

So just wait until you can open links and answer your own questions. It's the best way, trust me
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I will not do your work for you. Are you capable of answering my questions or not? If you are, please do so. If not, I will not bother with you further. These are basic questions that anyone familiar with tectonics would ask--seriously, I'm a paleontologist and *I* know to ask them.
 
Dinwar said:
Yes. The computer I'm on won't allow me to do so (company laptop with absurd protections on it). I also think it fair to ask a researcher to summarize the data they're presenting, and their arguments.

I'm not going to do your work for you. I'm asking you what YOUR answers to these questions are. If you are unwilling to provide those, it calls into question your credibility. No offense intended--it's the general rule of thumb in science.

I will not do your work for you. Are you capable of answering my questions or not? If you are, please do so. If not, I will not bother with you further. These are basic questions that anyone familiar with tectonics would ask--seriously, I'm a paleontologist and *I* know to ask them.
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You're funny Dinwar :D

You need to read and understand my last post and then it might dawn on you ;)

Have a look at this ... when you can of course :) The Sun is Going to Sleep
 
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Haig said:
You need to read and understand my last post and then it might dawn on you
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Will you please present your ideas, in text, in a post, on this forum?
 
Dinwar said:
Will you please present your ideas, in text, in a post, on this forum?
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Sorry, dinwar. We've been waiting years for something cogent. There is no science behind the thread topic so no scientific explanation will be forthcoming. What they have is a belief system. The prophet posts videos to keep the faithful stimulated with new braincandy and haig posts links to them. The answer to all questions is biblethumping. "Here's the answer, just watch this well produced stream of pre-chewed thinking" and it always has the same suppositions, winks and nudges, inferential suggestive statements devoid of soecificity and they tell you all these things quickly and slickly so you don't have time to parse all the tricks. None of the elecromawhatchit guys ever say anything concrete.
 
Haig said:
Jrrarglblarg you're missing the point of the video Earthquakes and the Solar System in that it clearly shows past correlations with major earthquakes. Anyone can go and check the facts for themselves.

Past correlation is encouraging for any new hypothesis but can it predict the future events? That's the goal and that's what he's aiming at and doing well too as these links show :)
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Confirmation is cheap. Let's see the hypothesis survive some predictions that would falsify it. What would falsify the idea? What should we not see if the idea is true?
 
Some reading referenced in the hypothesis HERE listed below for consideration ;)

Magnetic Portals Connect Earth to the Sun

Magnetic field observations in the near-field the 28 June 1992 Mw 7.3 Landers, California, earthquake

Is an ionospheric electron enhancement preceding the 2011 Tohoku-Oki earthquake a precursor?

Solar modulation of earthquake occurrence in areas penetrated by L of 2.0 populated by anomalous cosmic rays

ABOUT POSSIBLE INFLUENCE OF SOLAR ACTIVITY ON SEISMIC AND VOLCANIC ACTIVITIES: LONG-TERM FORECAST

Earthquakes and global electrical circuit

Ionospheric total electron content variations observed before earthquakes: Possible physical mechanism and modeling

Solar activity and global seismicity of the earth

Electromagnetic effects in atmosphere, ionosphere and magnetosphere initiated by earthquake preparation process

Ionospheric Precursors of Earthquakes

Pre-earthquake magnetic pulses

DC electric field amplification in the mid-latitude ionosphere over seismically active faults

Generation of electric field in an earthquake preparation zone

Multilayer Capacitor Model of the Earth’s Upper Crust

Analysis of pre-earthquake ionospheric anomalies before the global M = 7.0+ earthquakes in 2010

On dependence of seismic activity on 11 year variations in solar activity and/or cosmic rays

TEC anomalies before the Haiti Jan. 12, 2010 and China May 12, 2008 earthquakes

Geez guys seems it's not so wise to dismiss the hypothesis of the Sun "triggering" earthquakes without a bit more thought after all :D
 
Sideroxylon said:
Until you can come up with a test that could falsify the idea, you are just playing Texas sharpshooter fallacy.
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They are using the Scientific Method and the purpose of this experiment is to determine whether observations agree with or conflict with the predictions derived from this hypothesis.

As I said, it's early days yet and your Texas sharpshooter fallacy isn't applicable in this case, as should be obvious by now :cool:

Accurate predictions should support the new hypothesis. If they do not it's falsified. :eek:
 
Small pond. I bet he feels he's quite the big fish there.

But what's the coupling mechanism for transmogrifying solar output into gross movement of terrestrial fault lines? Sprites in the ionosphere don't reach 300km below the surface of the earth.
 
Jrrarglblarg said:
Small pond. I bet he feels he's quite the big fish there.

But what's the coupling mechanism for transmogrifying solar output into gross movement of terrestrial fault lines? Sprites in the ionosphere don't reach 300km below the surface of the earth.
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Interesting question Jrrarglblarg that is looked at in this list HERE It's a good way to narrow down the possibilities. Mmmm what could the coupling mechanism be ? ;)

They, I suggest, are first trying to establish a link between the solar event and the earthquake, volcano or major weather event. Once that is established then coupling mechanisms can be focused on. Lets not get the cart before the horse :-)
 
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