Haig and his Sun caused earthquakes

Haig said:
Just in case this is all too subtle for you aleCcowaN these two video should make it clearer :)
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More seriously, the ignorance and delusions are mounting up, Haig :jaw-dropp.
27 August 2015 Haig: Can you understand that an EU conference speaker (Ben Davidson) is deluded?
29 items of ignorance and delusions from Haig

  1. 12 November 2015 Haig: Cannot recognize that Davidson, et. al. "published" in a bottom of the barrel online newsletter!
  2. 12 November 2015 Haig: The fantasy that the deluded Ben Davidson being supported by yet another crank is good for Ben Davidson's delusions about the Sun and earthquakes.
  3. 12 November 2015 Haig: Wasting our time again with the web site of an uneducated in solar or climate science, not published crank (Mitch Battros)!
  4. 13 November 2015 Haig: The repeated delusion of science by YouTube videos from the crank Ben Davidson!
  5. 13 November 2015 Haig: The delusion that weather and climate is earthquakes by citing a paper on how the solar wind could effect weather and climate microphysics!
  6. 16 November 2015 Haig: A lie about the contents of a Solar Wind and Atmospheric Dynamics presentation
16 November 2015 Haig: The repeated delusion of science by YouTube videos from the crank Ben Davidson!
 
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36 items of ignorance and delusions from Haig

Haig said:
A good explanation of the Sun - Earth connection triggering earthquakes ... etc
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That is a lie, Haig, because Ben Davidson's delusions on YouTube are not rational explanations of anything.
27 August 2015 Haig: Can you understand that an EU conference speaker (Ben Davidson) is deluded?
29 items of ignorance and delusions from Haig
  1. 12 November 2015 Haig: Cannot recognize that Davidson, et. al. "published" in a bottom of the barrel online newsletter!
  2. 12 November 2015 Haig: The fantasy that the deluded Ben Davidson being supported by yet another crank is good for Ben Davidson's delusions about the Sun and earthquakes.
  3. 12 November 2015 Haig: Wasting our time again with the web site of an uneducated in solar or climate science, not published crank (Mitch Battros)!
  4. 13 November 2015 Haig: The repeated delusion of science by YouTube videos from the crank Ben Davidson!
  5. 13 November 2015 Haig: The delusion that weather and climate is earthquakes by citing a paper on how the solar wind could effect weather and climate microphysics!
  6. 16 November 2015 Haig: A lie about the contents of a Solar Wind and Atmospheric Dynamics presentation
  7. 16 November 2015 Haig: The repeated delusion of science by YouTube videos from the crank Ben Davidson!
 
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Just in the last couple of days...

Haig said:
Oh dear! someone hasn't been paying attention :p

If you had actually read and understood my post HERE you would understand how my last post DOES relate to earthquakes and the Sun - Earth connection.

Let me spell it out just for you aleCcowaN ;)

A Relationship Between M8+ Earthquake Occurrences and the Solar Polar Magnetic Fields and a Surge and Short-Term Peak in Northern Solar Polar Field Magnetism Prior to the M8.3 Earthquake Near Chile on September 16, 2015 is just ONE example of this hypothesis examined in Relationship Between M8+ Earthquake Occurrences and the Solar Polar Magnetic Fields which is an important part of the Sun - Earth connection. Read the full paper in this large PDF HERE

No need to apologise :rolleyes:
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Broken PDF link.

Haig said:
Just in case this is all too subtle for you aleCcowaN these two video should make it clearer :)


Earthquakes and the Solar System


EARTHSPOTS: Storms and Earthquakes [Update]
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Two yooboob links.

Haig said:
A good explanation of the Sun - Earth connection triggering earthquakes ... etc

Interesting times :thumbsup:

Large Quake, Magnetometer Readings | S0 News Nov.14.2015
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Yooboob link.

Haig said:
The Sun - Earth connection update :)

Earth facing coronal hole developing a strong outward force - So we have an Enhanced earthquake watch!

Filaments, Coronal Holes, Weather Alerts | S0 News Nov.15.2015

The significance of Coronal Holes is explained HERE

"The sun is most likely going into hibernation, scientists announced today" HERE

Earth's Weakening Shield HERE
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Four yooboob links.

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All links intentionally busted in the quotes above to evade Haig's obvious drive for channel hits.

Have you any thoughts of your own, Haig?
 
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abaddon said:
All links intentionally busted in the quotes above to evade Haig's obvious drive for channel hits.
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Your wrong, I don't care about channel hits I'm just showing where there is data and information about this topic "Sun triggering Earthquakes and other events"

It so happens

Suspicious0bservers is currently a good source for that.


Thanks for pointing out that broken link I know that can be annoying.

Here is is again ... Relationship Between M8+ Earthquake Occurrences and the Solar Polar Magnetic Fields PDF

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Have you any thoughts of your own, Haig?
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Yes, as a general guide any words that are not in quotes are mine :)

I generally only have time to post information on the topic and leave others to do their own research before making their minds up. Others seem to prefer to make their minds up first judging by the ad homs and abuse being posted. I welcome posts on the argument not on the arguer or in my case the messenger ;)

These two videos are good examples of the Sun - Earth connection investigation triggering earthquakes and other events that is going on just now.

Big Solar Blast, Satellites Missing Data | S0 News Nov.16.2015

and

Deadly Quake, Impact Watch | S0 News Nov.17.2015
 
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Your wrong, I don't care about channel hits I'm just showing where there is data and information about this topic "Sun triggering Earthquakes and other events"

It so happens

Suspicious0bservers is currently a good source for that.
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And yet you are unable to articulate a coupling mechanism.

I will not watch a video link from you ever. I tried and the SO videos are rapid streams of unsupported assertions and pseudo intellectual pseudoscientific word salad.
 
Jrrarglblarg said:
And yet you are unable to articulate a coupling mechanism.

I will not watch a video link from you ever. I tried and the SO videos are rapid streams of unsupported assertions and pseudo intellectual pseudoscientific word salad.
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I've never claimed to have ALL the answers, nobody has, not even Suspicious0bservers but we should be asking the right questions.

So you have an aversion to videos, well what about PDF's?

Relationship Between M8+ Earthquake Occurrences and the Solar Polar Magnetic Fields
4.4 Electromagnetism and Earthquakes.
The SPF are solar-system-scale magnetic fields generated by the sun, so electromagnetic exchanges are a worthwhile avenue of investigation for a mechanism explaining how the SPF trigger earthquakes. This is especially true since there is precedent for looking into the electromagnetic aspect of earthquakes.
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Mmmm well Jrrarglblarg what do you think? It doesn't seem to be someone claiming ALL the answers just pointing to good places to focus on :cool:

A coupling mechanism will be uncovered :thumbsup:
 
This thread is like reading a Loch Ness monster book. "Free beer tomorrow" logic is not compatible with the scientific method.
 
Step 3 on that list seems like a good place to dive in. You have yet to demonstrate sufficient correlation between cause and effect, and weasel out of (or just ignore) any datapoint that falls outside the "predictions."

Correlation does not equal causation, but you haven't even demonstrated adequate correlation.
 
Jrrarglblarg said:
Step 3 on that list seems like a good place to dive in. You have yet to demonstrate sufficient correlation between cause and effect, and weasel out of (or just ignore) any datapoint that falls outside the "predictions."

Correlation does not equal causation, but you haven't even demonstrated adequate correlation.
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He has been doing steps 3 and 4 for a while and been published in peer reviewed journal.

Seems you want everything answered before you give any credit.

So far so good I think. His earthquake predictions are now adding broad locations to the forcast time period. That's progress :thumbsup:
 
Haig: Lies about the contents of two Ben Davidson crank videos

Haig said:
... Suspicious0bserversis currently a good source for that.
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Which is a delusion, Haig - the fantasies of a crank like Ben Davidson are not a good source for science. He does pull in gullible fools with nice videos though.
36 items of ignorance and delusions from Haig

Haig said:
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These two videos are good examples of the Sun - Earth connection investigation triggering earthquakes and other events that is going on just now.
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18 November 2015 Haig: Lies about the contents of two Ben Davidson crank videos. There is no evidence of a Sun - Earth connection investigation triggering earthquakes and other events in those crank videos.Ben Davidson lies - there is no citation supporting his assertion of missing data. There is plenty of advertising of his delusions. But he is just pointing out that some data was not released automatically. His earthquakes fantasy does is implied by his end comments.
The second video is Ben Davidson lying. The updated coronagraph images he was waiting for were released and he spins his usual delusions about them.

27 August 2015 Haig: Can you understand that an EU conference speaker (Ben Davidson) is deluded?
 
Haig said:
So you have an aversion to videos, well what about PDF's?
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Everyone who thinks skeptically and rationally will have an aversion to crank videos, Haig.
The statement was And yet you are unable to articulate a coupling mechanism.. That is a statement about you, Haig, not the deluded Ben Davidson. It is you, Haig, who cannot coherently state a viable coupling mechanism between the Sun and earthquakes.

There is no coupling mechanism in that PDF. There are ignorant fantasies about the heliospheric current sheet. There is the idiocy of thinking that electromagnetic phenomena preceding earthquakes are signs of this imaginary coupling mechanism. There is the insanity of thinking that a dubious correlation means causation.
 
Haig: Ben Davidson has not being following the scientific method

Haig said:
Actually SO is following the scientific method. :D
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Lying about Ben Davidson again, Haig? Ben Davidson is not following the scientific method as shown in that link :jaw-dropp!
Ben Davidson
  1. did not observe some aspect of the universe. He spent years creating a list of examples and imposed his fantasy on each of them.
    The scientific method would be to analyze the existing data about solar activity and earthquakes that has existed for decades. That was done in the dubious Davidson et. al. newsletter.
  2. does have a "tentative description" but it is more a fantasy based on his ignorant support of the electric universe than a hypothesis.
  3. has made no predictions.
  4. cannot test those non-existent predictions!
  5. cannot refine the hypothesis.
Some other basics of the scientific method are
  1. Know the science :eek:!
    The economist Ben Davidson is ignorant of astronomy, geology, etc.
  2. Learn the existing research by experts in the field.
    The scientific evidence is hat there is no link between solar activity and earthquakes.
  3. Do not impose your theory on the data.
    Ben Davidson has spent years doing that!
And an optional extra: Do not present your theory in crank conferences.
27 August 2015 Haig: Can you understand that an EU conference speaker (Ben Davidson) is deluded?

18 November 2015 Haig: It is an obvious lie that Ben Davidson has being following the scientific method as your link shows.
 
Haig said:
He has been doing steps 3 and 4 for a while and been published in peer reviewed journal.
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18 November 2015 Haig: It is an obvious lie that Ben Davidson has being following the scientific method as your link shows.
That is a lie about a peer reviewed journal, Haig. NCGT calls itself a journal but is more of a newsletter. NCGT is only online as a series of PDFs in a not well designed web site. Have a look at the paranoia/conspiracy theory implications in its about page. NCGT claims to be reviewed but there is no indication of peer review.
12 November 2015 Haig: Cannot recognize that Davidson, et. al. "published" in a bottom of the barrel online newsletter!
 
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Just how bad is the NCGT newsletter/journal?
Reputable journals publish reviews of books by book reviewers.
NCGT allows authors to advertise their books. So the current issue has "Planetary Influence on the Sun and the Earth, and a Modern Book-Burning" by the non-astronomer Nils-Axel MÖRNER who is ignorant enough to quote a review by Professor Willie Soon who is in denial of climate change and basic physics (the Sun cannot be driving global warming because its output has been constant for the last 35 years) and was silly enough to publish a paper with the journalist and British politician Christopher Monckton who has a track record of lying about climate science.
 
Haig: Ben Davidson fantasizes about a CME and a coronal hole flux impact

Haig said:
Interesting update to the Sun - Earth connection in this enhanced earthquake watch period.
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Yet another update to the delusion of science from crank YouTube videos.
36 items of ignorance and delusions from Haig just in this thread!

18 November 2015 Haig: Lies about the contents of two Ben Davidson crank videos.
18 November 2015 Haig: It is an obvious lie that Ben Davidson has being following the scientific method as your link shows.
19 November 2015 Haig: Ben Davidson fantasizes about a CME and a coronal hole flux impact or is plagiarizing real space weather forecasts.

These are actual space weather forecasts which Ben Davidson doe not cite. His "list of citations" is a lot of advertising with no space weather forecasts on it!
G1(Minor) storm likely/chance for G2(Moderate)
published: Tuesday, November 17, 2015 22:19 UTC
Late on 15 November and early on 16 November, two filament eruptions occurred in the SW quadrant of the solar disk. Preliminary analysis of the filament eruptions suggest possible influence of a coronal mass ejection (CME) accompanying the onset of a coronal hole high speed stream, making (G1-Minor) storming likely the latter half of 18 Nov and early on 19 Nov. Depending on the magnetic complexity of the CME, there is a chance conditions could reach G2-Moderate storm levels. As of now, G1-Minor storm Watches have been issued for 18 and 19 Nov.
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No "impacts" in 3-Day Forecast
Issued: 2015 Nov 18 1230 UTC
...Rationale: The geomagnetic field is likely to reach G1 (Minor) storming levels, with a chance for G2 (Moderate), on day one (18 Nov) due to effects from an expected coronal hole high speed stream (CH HSS) and the anticipated glancing blow of a coronal mass ejection (CME) later in the day. G1 (Minor) conditions are likely to continue into the early periods of day two (19 Nov), before beginning to diminish as CH HSS and CME effects wane.
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Well, it's November 19th and the "watch" for woo caused earthquakes has ended. Let's remind the readers that Haig/Ben had forecast a lot of earthquakes between the 13th and the 18th.

In those 6 days there were 85 earthquakes with magnitude 4.5 or more involving power of a bit above three fourths of a megaton of TNT (14.17 quakes and 131 kilotons a day)

In the 21 days from October 20th to November 10th there were 281 earthquakes with magnitude 4.5 or more involving a power of above 4 megatons, that is (13.38 quakes and 189 kilotons a day)

Conclusion: poppycock watch, just another attempt from our "Ben" to take advantage of the Jeane Dixon effect. Better luck next time. Don't worry, a sucker is born every second so you won't have troubles getting your money.
 
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