Haig and his Sun caused earthquakes

jonesdave116 said:

So, > 6.0 = 152 per annum on average since 1990. Equals 1 every 2.4 days. So 1 of those within 5 days? Not a bad bet.

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Reality Check said:

23 November 2015 Haig: That these are your delusions about valid science is not a stretch at all.
This is the idiocy that because the Sun affects the Earth it must cause whatever your obsession with the deluded Ben Davidson needs. You are almost lying about the contents of these web pages because they are not about any cause of earthquakes, Haig .

The Sun-Earth Connection



Magnetic Portals Connect Earth to the Sun

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“The most striking aspect of the model is that it is, for the most part, relatively simple,” says Dr. Holloman. “The patterns observed in the solar magnetic fields aren’t the result of applying some obscure mathematical functions. The algorithm is based on things like peaks and troughs in solar cycles or the absolute strength of one of the poles at a particular time. Such simple models are more often predictive than more complex models.”

The relationship described here “may be linked to the electrical connections between the Earth and the Sun,” according to Dr. Kongpop U-yen. “After looking at the complete data set, it is not difficult for anyone to see that there is a connection. To be sure we did not fool ourselves, we back up this finding using verifiable statistical analysis.” The scientific field has been making a move to integrate electromagnetic and electrostatic elements into the general discourse, and the team believes that these papers fall in that same vein of progress.

The studies also suggest that interplanetary magnetic fields associated with lower-latitude coronal holes, especially those attached to polar coronal hole structures, may also provide avenues for further study, along with alternative ways to monitor this field activity, such as the intensity of the solar wind associated with the coronal holes. Commenting further on the simplicity of the algorithm, Davidson notes, “We look at extremes in magnetism and reversal of polarity – it is actually quite simple.”

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Haig said:

The Sun - Earth connection triggering large earthquakes again

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Haig said:

RC those links are about the Sun - Earth connection just as the hypothesis of this thread IS about the Sun - Earth connection triggering earthquakes.

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1. 26 November 2015 Haig: The repeated delusion of science by YouTube videos from the crank Ben Davidson!
2. 26 November 2015 Haig: Ignorance of science - a "prediction" that matches random occurrence is not a prediction !
3. 25 November 2015 Haig: The repeated delusion that observations that are not to do with solar activity and earthquakes support a link between between solar activity and earthquakes!
   This is the insanity of "the Sun shines on us thus earthquakes" or "the Sun has lots of gravity thus earthquakes" !
4. 26 November 2015 Haig: The repeated idiocy of depending on the deluded EU conference speaker Dr. Kongpop U-yen!
   See 27 August 2015 Haig: Can you understand that an EU conference speaker (Dr. Kongpop U-yen) is deluded?
5. 26 November 2015 Haig: Ben Davison lies - the delusion is in a single paper, not "studies". Dr. Holloman’s model has nothing to do with earthquakes.
6. 26 November 2015 Haig: Repeats a fantasy about a paper when Davidson, et. al. "published" a PDF in a bottom of the barrel online crank newsletter/journal![/URL]
   12 November 2015 Haig: Cannot recognize that Davidson, et. al. "published" in a bottom of the barrel online newsletter!
   18 November 2015 Haig: An example of the crank content of the NCGT newsletter/journal - the non-astronomer Nils-Axel MÖRNER writes a book on astronomy and quotes a review by the climate change denier Willie Soon and cites the liar Christopher Monckton :eek!

• Pierre Robitaille who has the insane idea that the CMBR is emitted from Earth's oceans! Truly deluded.
• David Talbott who is the "prophet" of the deluded Thunderbolts cult (see 10th April 2015: The ignorance, delusions and lies in the Thunderbolts web site, videos, etc.). Truly deluded.
• Kongpop U-yen - (27 August 2015 Haig: Can you understand that an EU conference speaker (Dr. Kongpop U-yen) is deluded?)
• Adrian D'Amico (a YouTube presenter) talking about Fast Radio Bursts. Degree of delusion unknown but sounds ignorant.
• August Dunning (a material scientist) talking about Mars weather with possibly the delusion that the solar wind reaches and modifies the surface of Mars. Degree of delusion unknown but not an expert on weather or astronomy.

jonesdave116 said:

To paraphrase Tim Thompson in one of his comments about Don Scott's nonsense: "Nice prose, crap science."
Think that pretty much sums it up.

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jimbob said:

That's probably an unfair comparison. I have seen no evidence of nice prose by the proponent of not-even-pseudo "science" in this thread.

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Published on 25 Nov 2015
Technically the last earthquakes came two days after the 2-week trial period, however that timeline was meant for the window of making the forecasts. The Trial Period would not close until we tested the merit of the final prediction. Had it been made with 1 minute to go and the earthquake struck 1 minute AFTER the trial ended, you would have an easy example of why the study must be done in this way.

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Haig said:

Don't think you're trying

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1. 26 November 2015 Haig: The repeated delusion of science by YouTube videos from the crank Ben Davidson!
2. 26 November 2015 Haig: Ignorance of science - a "prediction" that matches random occurrence is not a prediction !
3. 25 November 2015 Haig: The repeated delusion that observations that are not to do with solar activity and earthquakes support a link between between solar activity and earthquakes!
   This is the insanity of "the Sun shines on us thus earthquakes" or "the Sun has lots of gravity thus earthquakes" !
4. 26 November 2015 Haig: The repeated idiocy of depending on the deluded EU conference speaker Dr. Kongpop U-yen!
   See 27 August 2015 Haig: Can you understand that an EU conference speaker (Dr. Kongpop U-yen) is deluded?
5. 26 November 2015 Haig: Ben Davison lies - the delusion is in a single paper, not "studies". Dr. Holloman’s model has nothing to do with earthquakes.
6. 26 November 2015 Haig: Repeats a fantasy about a paper when Davidson, et. al. "published" a PDF in a bottom of the barrel online crank newsletter/journal![/URL]
   12 November 2015 Haig: Cannot recognize that Davidson, et. al. "published" in a bottom of the barrel online newsletter!
   18 November 2015 Haig: An example of the crank content of the NCGT newsletter/journal - the non-astronomer Nils-Axel MÖRNER writes a book on astronomy and quotes a review by the climate change denier Willie Soon and cites the liar Christopher Monckton :eek!
7. 26 November 2015 Haig: Ben Davidson was stupid enough to be a presenter at the Observing the Frontier conference
8. 26 November 2015 Haig: The repeated delusion of science by YouTube videos from the crank Ben Davidson! (twice in 1 day!)
9. 26 November 2015 Haig: Repeats his ignorance of outgoing longwave radiation by citing Ben Davison's stupidity about OLR.
   19 November 2015 Haig: Ben Davidson tweets his ignorant delusions about outgoing longwave radiation (OLR).
   20 November 2015 Haig: Ben Davidson tweets his ignorant delusions about outgoing longwave radiation (OLR) again!
10. 26 November 2015 Haig: Ben Davison has the delusion that clouds (a cause of OLR anomalies and why the anomalies move) cause earthquakes !

Outgoing Longwave Radiation (OLR) is the energy radiating from the Earth as infrared radiation at low energy to Space.
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OLR is a critical component of the Earth's energy budget, and represents the total radiation going to space emitted by the atmosphere.[3] Earth's radiation balance is quite closely achieved since the OLR very nearly equals the Shortwave Absorbed Radiation received at high energy from the sun. Thus, the Earth's average temperature is very nearly stable. The OLR is affected by clouds and dust in the atmosphere, which tend to reduce it to below clear sky values.

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Reality Check said:

Haig: The repeated delusion of science by YouTube videos from the crank Ben Davidson.

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Haig said:

The Sun - Earth connection can trigger earthquakes

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55 items of ignorance and delusions from Haig just in this thread !

1. 27 November 2015 Haig: Repeats the delusion of science by YouTube videos from the crank Ben Davidson!
2. 27 November 2015 Haig: The lies, ignorance and delusions of the Thunderbolts cult pop up again!
   This case is the delusions of Donald Scott about the Sun with the obvious madness of "the Sun is in essence an electrical discharge phenomenon".
   Ignorant assertions about Birkeland currents. The insanity of throwing away Birkeland's work on the solar wind causing Earth’s auroras!
3. 27 November 2015 Haig: Repeats the delusion of science by YouTube videos from the ignorant and deluded Donald Scott this time!

jonesdave116 said:

Tell you what, Haig; I'll also bet that there is a very good chance of a mag 6.0 or higher within the next 5 days, too!
However, my guess is based purely on maths. That is, the statistical chances of it happening. As below;
So, > 6.0 = 152 per annum on average since 1990. Equals 1 every 2.4 days. So 1 of those within 5 days? Not a bad bet.

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jonesdave116 said:

I was right, I was right, I was right!
6.7; 2015-11-26; 05:45:18 UTC; 599.4 km deep; Tarauaca, Brazil.
Hey, this is easy! Any fool can do it.

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Slings and Arrows said:

If you can get your prediction to match up with some ancient cave drawing, or link it to the lost continent of Atlantis, then you are a shoo-in for a speaking gig at the next EU conference.

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jonesdave116 said:

I was right, I was right, I was right!
6.7; 2015-11-26; 05:45:18 UTC; 599.4 km deep; Tarauaca, Brazil.
Hey, this is easy! Any fool can do it.

http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/?source=sitenav

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tusenfem said:

You can only be right if you publish your result on boobtoob.

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jonesdave116 said:

I was right, I was right, I was right!
6.7; 2015-11-26; 05:45:18 UTC; 599.4 km deep; Tarauaca, Brazil.
Hey, this is easy! Any fool can do it.

http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/?source=sitenav

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Since magma can be considered a form of liquid plasma, it can also conduct electricity. As the ionosphere is charged up by solar flares, opposite charge is attracted to subterranean magma. Electric currents in plasma pinch down into filaments and form double layers. Electromagnetic forces between current filaments and between double layers can cause sudden pressure variations.

If, as stated above, the charge differential between layers becomes too great, a double layer can explode, releasing all of its energy flow instantaneously. So, earthquakes can be considered a form of underground lightning. If there is a break in the strata, permitting magma to reach the surface, the arc discharge might connect to the outside and a lightning bolt will leap from the cone of a volcano.

If earthquakes are underground lightning bolts, then perhaps seismic waves are the thunderclaps. In that case, it seems likely that the majority of energy release during an earthquake is not from the fracturing and movement of rock strata, but is the result of electrical energy detonating within the matrix.

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Some scientists have become aware of a correlation between sunspots and Earthquakes and want to use the sunspot data to help predict earthquakes. The theory is that an intensification of the magnetic field can cause changes in the geosphere. The NASA and the European Geosciences Union have already put their stamp of approval on the sunspot hypothesis, which suggests that certain changes in the sun-earth environment affects the magnetic field of the earth that can trigger earthquakes in areas prone to it. It is not clear how such a trigger might work.

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Haig said:

Nice try but you forgot to link it to the outputs of our variable star

Like this ...

Earthquakes and Volcanoes (my bold)



Electric Earthquakes






Get it now

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jonesdave116 said:

Nothing to do with our star. To do with our planet. It's called tectonics. And I can predict it as easily as Ben Davidson, without recourse to woo. I'll be right as often as him. Just maths, chance and tectonics. I could link it to how often I have a bacon butty for breakfast, but that would be as scientific as what Davidson is doing.
Difference is, I'm not trying to dress it up as woo, invoking all sorts of weirdness to lull the scientifically illiterate. Not interested in the money, or the ego trip. Just pointing out that what he is doing is nothing that any idiot armed with a bit of maths and the right information couldn't do.
I'm sure lots of people swear by homeopathy and astrology. Still doesn't mean it isn't total b*llocks, though.

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