Haig and his Sun caused earthquakes

Haig said:
Sun triggered earthquakes up-tick imminent
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On the other hand, I have had bacon sandwiches for breakfast and/ or lunch for the past few days. Wouldn't be surprised if there were something big (6.0+) on the way.
Alternatively, as I laid out elsewhere, those magnitude of earthquakes happen, on average, every 2.4 days. There hasn't been one for at least a week

So I imagine that one is also due on that basis. Given that Davidson doesn't have a mechanism, and neither does my bacon sandwich hypothesis, then they can both equally be ruled out as unscientific.
Which leaves tectonics and probability.
Any more snake oil you'd like to sell while you're here, Haig?
 
jonesdave116 said:
On the other hand, I have had bacon sandwiches for breakfast and/ or lunch for the past few days. Wouldn't be surprised if there were something big (6.0+) on the way.
Alternatively, as I laid out elsewhere, those magnitude of earthquakes happen, on average, every 2.4 days. There hasn't been one for at least a week

So I imagine that one is also due on that basis. Given that Davidson doesn't have a mechanism, and neither does my bacon sandwich hypothesis, then they can both equally be ruled out as unscientific.
Which leaves tectonics and probability.
Any more snake oil you'd like to sell while you're here, Haig?
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Look this is "the Sun triggers Earthquake" thread so you are off topic !

If you want to talk about your "bacon sandwich hypothesis" you should start a new thread :D
 
Haig: Publishing in a crank newsletter is the authors saying that their paper is bad

Haig said:
Oh! If it's not in a serious scientific publication it can't be correct ?
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If it is in a crank newsletter then even the authors do not think that it is correct, Haig :jaw-dropp!
2 December 2015 Haig: Publishing in a crank newsletter is the authors acknowledging that their paper is so bad that it cannot be published in a credible scientific journal.

This is the way that the world works. Scientists who have confidence in their work want to have it tested by peer reviewers in high impact, appropriate scientific journals. The reputation boost of publishing in a well known journal is also good.

Deluded people flock together (look at the Thunderbolts cult!). Ben Davidson and Kongpop U-gen are deluded neo-Velikovskians and speakers at the crank EU conferences. So they flocked to plate tectonics cranks. We do not know about Christopher Hollman's degree of delusion but he is ignorant enough not to recognize an obviously crank newsletter or maybe had no control over this. It is possible that he was just given the data and analyzed it. Holloman is associate faculty at the Ohio State University Statistical Consulting Service.
 
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Haig said:
Sun triggered earthquakes ...
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Haig falls yet again for the crank Ben Davidson lying about the Sun triggering earthquakes :eye-poppi!
2 December 2015 Haig: Repeats his delusion of science by YouTube videos from the crank Ben Davidson!

Followed by a couple of idiotic images from Haig. THEMIS Discovers Biggest Breach of Earth's Magnetosphere on December 15, 2008
2 December 2015 Haig: Haig's delusion that power lines being disrupted by solar storms are earthquakes being triggered by the Sun :eek:!

58 items of ignorance and delusions from Haig just in this thread :eye-poppi!
  1. 30 November 2015 Haig: Links to the lies, ignorance and delusions of the Thunderbolts cult again :eye-poppi.
  2. 30 November 2015 Haig: Repeats the delusion of science by YouTube videos from the crank Ben Davidson!
  3. 30 November 2015 Haig: Lies again about a paper in a peer reviewed journal.
  4. 1 December 2015 Haig: Repeats the delusion of science by YouTube videos from the crank Ben Davidson!
  5. 2 December 2015 Haig: Publishing in a crank newsletter is the authors acknowledging that their paper is so bad that it cannot be published in a credible scientific journal.
 
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Haig said:
Look this is "the Sun triggers Earthquake" thread so you are off topic !

If you want to talk about your "bacon sandwich hypothesis" you should start a new thread :D
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Give it up. You want to talk crap, then I am quite capable of keeping up with it.
Next prediction, please? Where should we evacuate? What is the point of all this woo?
Mate, you're an eejit. Don't let anybody tell you any different!

ETA: Heard anything lately about comets being rocks? That went well, didn't it? Give it a rest you joker. You haven't got a clue what you're talking about.
 
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I reckon Haig pushes this obvious nonsense as a cover for his paid work as an Anthropic Global Warming denialist (in the Global Warming Discussion thread, already up to part IV).

This here thread is where he kicks back and has fun trolling with pure bs, trying to keep fresh for his drudgery in raking through boring propaganda sites which he only does for the kick back moolah the oil companies or the Koch brothers or some other comedy act offer to grease the palms of sweaty no hopers trying to keep the "controversy" alive. :rolleyes:

ETA He's hoping that by posting here he looks like a genuine nutter, so people will swallow that he's a genuine "skeptic" of AGW in the other thread. But it's just too obvious. The camouflage ain't working.
 
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asydhouse said:
ETA He's hoping that by posting here he looks like a genuine nutter, so people will swallow that he's a genuine "skeptic" of AGW in the other thread.
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Surely the more obviously crackpot ideas someone has in one area the less credibility they have when questioning mainstream science in other areas. Shills paid to cast doubt on AGW would be careful to seem sensible in other science threads.

Anyone who is familiar with Haig's idiotic beliefs from this and EU threads knows that his posts in the AGW threads can be disregarded, or even used as a guide to the real situation (ie the opposite of whatever Haig believes). This is why I doubt that he's a paid shill and incline to the view that he really is as wilfully ignorant and stubbornly crackpot as he appears to be.
 
Pixel42 said:
Surely the more obviously crackpot ideas someone has in one area the less credibility they have when questioning mainstream science in other areas. Shills paid to cast doubt on AGW would be careful to seem sensible in other science threads.

Anyone who is familiar with Haig's idiotic beliefs from this and EU threads knows that his posts in the AGW threads can be disregarded, or even used as a guide to the real situation (ie the opposite of whatever Haig believes). This is why I doubt that he's a paid shill and incline to the view that he really is as wilfully ignorant and stubbornly crackpot as he appears to be.
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I was thinking more that he knows his antics in the AGW thread are so ridiculously obviously unlikely to be truly believed by anyone with enough intelligence to be able to type on a keyboard [ETA I mean Haig has enough intelligence to type, so he must have enough to see that his tripe is pure tripe], that he posts here to act as a smokescreen screaming "nutcase!", so that his AGW stuff can be passed off as the work of an obsessive conspiracy theorist. He's trying to make it less likely he'll be accused of getting paid to muddy the AGW waters.

I normally have the highest respect for your thinking, Pixel42, and your post here nearly made me give up on my theory about Haig. But on reconsideration, I still can't believe anyone could be so obsessive and persistently wrong as he is in the AGW thread, especially as the stirling people over there counter his every whim with solid sources and links. Repeatedly.

He's a paid shill.


ETA: The denialists know they are in the endgame, and the financiers just want there to be continuing noise, however nonsensical, just to be able to continue claiming that there is a controversy. They know it's only the wilfully ignorant and the stupid who are likely to buy into it, so they don't care about the calibre of the noise or the noise-makers at all by this stage.
 
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asydhouse said:
I still can't believe anyone could be so obsessive and persistently wrong as he is in the AGW thread, especially as the stirling people over there counter his every whim with solid sources and links. Repeatedly.
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Have you ever read any of the physics crackpot threads? The same can be said of them, yet the crackpots cling stubbornly to their theories.

Some people nail their colours to a particular mast and then emotionally invest in it so completely that they can never be objective enough to realise it was the wrong one, even after the ship has sunk.

I'm not dismissing the possibility of a paid shill, it's a plausible theory, I just think genuine crackpot is a little more likely.
 
Well yes I used to argue with Zeuzzz when I first got involved here, until he got banned. He struck me as someone with a lively mind, unlike the plodding Haig. He just couldn't accept that his acid experiences weren't as real as they seemed at the time, and so he searched for plausible possibilities in "fringe" "science".

The feel of arguing with him was totally different from the bull-headed repetitive nature of Haig's oblivious unresponsively bodging posts.

Still, I take your point about the Ahab quality of such people strapped to their masts wafting at the bottom of the sea (to slightly abuse the image of Ahab tangled on the white whale by the harpoon rope).
 
Pixel42 said:
Have you ever read any of the physics crackpot threads? The same can be said of them, yet the crackpots cling stubbornly to their theories.

Some people nail their colours to a particular mast and then emotionally invest in it so completely that they can never be objective enough to realise it was the wrong one, even after the ship has sunk.

I'm not dismissing the possibility of a paid shill, it's a plausible theory, I just think genuine crackpot is a little more likely.
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Nope, not even close :p

I guess I'll have to spell it out :cool:

All the topics I post on have a common driver namely "our variably star"
For some years now, an unorthodox idea has been gaining favor among astronomers. It contradicts old teachings and unsettles thoughtful observers, especially climatologists.

"The sun," explains Lika Guhathakurta of NASA headquarters in Washington DC, "is a variable star."
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The Sun triggers Earthquakes , Electric Comets, Climate Change, Weather and a lot more :eek:

There is a statistical evidence that shows most destructive earthquakes and volcanic eruptions take place at the lowest and highest solar cycles activity and we are heading into a GRAND SOLAR MINIMUM so more large earthquakes are to be expected.


Time will tell who is right or wrong but our Sun is doing strange unexpected things in recent times.
 
Haig said:
Nope, The Quiet Sun has other plans HERE & HERE
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Answering a question by posting un commented links. Argument by Biblethumping.

When the Maximum passes of Solar Cycle 25 then it will be obvious to ALL Sol Deniers
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Argument from Free Beer Tomorow. And you can't even be bother to type a grammatically useable sentence.
Lastest update on the Earthquake Up-tic and our Sun - Earth connection ...

Gigantic Coronal Hole, Volcano Alerts | S0 News Dec.2.2015
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Argument by Biblethumping.
 
Haig said:
Given the evidence from both sides others can judge for themselves
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<gratuitous smiley snipped>

Another possibility is that Haig posts here for the same reason Intelligent Design people like to be seen on stage with scientists, even if the IDers take a pasting. It allows them to pretend scientists take their ideas seriously.
 
asydhouse said:
He's a paid shill.
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There is a more likely possibility - Haig is an unpaid shill!
Haig is a follower of the Thunderbolts neo-Velikovsky cult.
Ben Davidson is a follower of the Thunderbolts neo-Velikovsky cult.
Thus Haig is acting as a good cult follower and spamming us with the delusions of Ben Davidson because Davidson is a member of the cult, not because Haig has actually thought about the subject. This is what we should expect from someone who has been "brainwashed" by a cult :rolleyes:.
N.B. I call Thunderbolts a cult because they share some attributes of a cult
  • Over 60 years of mindlessly following the dogma in a holy book ("Worlds in Collision").
  • Belief based on faith rather than evidence.
  • The words of "prophets" are also holy (Talbott, Thornhill, Scott and maybe Davidson) even when they are delusions and lies.
  • The words of "unbelievers" (scientists) are considered lies or delusions.
  • Some isolation of cult followers in the Thunderbolts forum where people asking for reasonable evidence can be arbitrarily banned.
 
Haig: A lie about a crank web page containing statistical evidence

Haig said:
All the topics I post on have a common driver namely "our variably star"
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Which is a lie, Haig, because
  • Solar Dynamics Observatory: The 'Variable Sun' Mission has nothing to do with your various delusions about the Sun (causes global warming, will cause a new Ice age, triggers earthquakes, the electric comet idiocy)
  • You have posted for about 5 years now about your delusion that comets are rocks.
  • The Sun is not a driver for global warming as you know.
Repeating your delusions about the Sun does not make then any less delusions, Haig :jaw-dropp.
58 items of ignorance and delusions from Haig just in this thread :eye-poppi!
  1. 30 November 2015 Haig: Links to the lies, ignorance and delusions of the Thunderbolts cult again :eye-poppi.
  2. 30 November 2015 Haig: Repeats the delusion of science by YouTube videos from the crank Ben Davidson!
  3. 30 November 2015 Haig: Lies again about a paper in a peer reviewed journal.
  4. 1 December 2015 Haig: Repeats the delusion of science by YouTube videos from the crank Ben Davidson!
  5. 2 December 2015 Haig: Publishing in a crank newsletter is the authors acknowledging that their paper is so bad that it cannot be published in a credible scientific journal.
  6. 3 December 2015 Haig: Repeats the delusion of science by YouTube videos from the crank Ben Davidson!
  7. 3 December 2015 Haig: A lie about a ignorant, deluded crank blog containing statistical evidence.
    This is a deluded crank listing cherry picked outdated papers to fit their delusions. Hmmm ... this sounds familiar :p!
    The delusions include that well known electrical activity cause by rocks under stress before earthquakes triggers earthquakes because of his fairy story.
    Lots of no statistical evidence presented to support assertions about statistical evidence.
    The idiocy of citing magnetars and the delusion that magnetars "close to the galactic core of our galaxy" affect Earth's magnetosphere :eek:!
    Ends up with insanity about GPS (they works because they are adjusted for both SR and GR!) ; transistors (semiconductors are a QM effect that does not exist classically); quantum computer exist!
    Look at the rants in other entries in this blog and you can see how insanely stupid this link is, Haig.

Your "comets are rocks" delusion is really stupid given the measurements by various methods that comets have densities less than that of water!
Electric comets still do not exist!
10th April 2015: The ignorance, delusions and lies in the Thunderbolts web site, videos, etc. (mostly from citations from Haig!).
30 November 2015 Haig: Jets interacting with the solar wind does not support your delusion that comets are rocks and have electrical discharges!

Your "a new Maunder minimum will cause a new Little Ice Age" delusion is based on the idiocy of ignoring the greenhouse effect!
Haig's 32 parroted ignorance and lies from climate change deniers dating from 11 May 2015 with the list continuing to grow!
 
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Haig said:
Nope, The Quiet Sun has other plans
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The Sun can be quiet. What has this got to do with your delusions about the Sun, Haig?
Haig's 32 parroted ignorance and lies from climate change deniers dating from 11 May 2015 with the list continuing to grow!

58 items of ignorance and delusions from Haig just in this thread :eye-poppi!
  1. 30 November 2015 Haig: Links to the lies, ignorance and delusions of the Thunderbolts cult again :eye-poppi.
  2. 30 November 2015 Haig: Repeats the delusion of science by YouTube videos from the crank Ben Davidson!
  3. 30 November 2015 Haig: Lies again about a paper in a peer reviewed journal.
  4. 1 December 2015 Haig: Repeats the delusion of science by YouTube videos from the crank Ben Davidson!
  5. 2 December 2015 Haig: Publishing in a crank newsletter is the authors acknowledging that their paper is so bad that it cannot be published in a credible scientific journal.
  6. 3 December 2015 Haig: Repeats the delusion of science by YouTube videos from the crank Ben Davidson!
  7. 3 December 2015 Haig: A lie about a ignorant, deluded crank blog containing statistical evidence.
  8. 3 December 2015 Haig: Repeats the delusion of science by YouTube videos from the crank Ben Davidson!
 
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