Haig and his Sun caused earthquakes

Reality Check said:
There is a more likely possibility - Haig is an unpaid shill!
Haig is a follower of the Thunderbolts neo-Velikovsky cult.
Ben Davidson is a follower of the Thunderbolts neo-Velikovsky cult.
Thus Haig is acting as a good cult follower and spamming us with the delusions of Ben Davidson because Davidson is a member of the cult, not because Haig has actually thought about the subject. This is what we should expect from someone who has been "brainwashed" by a cult :rolleyes:.
N.B. I call Thunderbolts a cult because they share some attributes of a cult
  • Over 60 years of mindlessly following the dogma in a holy book ("Worlds in Collision").
  • Belief based on faith rather than evidence.
  • The words of "prophets" are also holy (Talbott, Thornhill, Scott and maybe Davidson) even when they are delusions and lies.
  • The words of "unbelievers" (scientists) are considered lies or delusions.
  • Some isolation of cult followers in the Thunderbolts forum where people asking for reasonable evidence can be arbitrarily banned.
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Fair enough. All I know of him is the repetitious posting in the AGW Discussion thread, where his oblivious plodding is so boring I couldn't believe anyone could do it for so long without making it a job for money, like working on an assembly line in a factory (or slaughtering chickens).

But you convince me he is just mindlessly spamming us with his religion of choice.

As with other people's sexual "perversions", religious fanatics are unfathomably weird to anyone who doesn't share their obsessions, so I guess that explains his commitment to his adopted "cause".

It's people like them that make me despair for the prospects of the human race. Conversely, it's people like you and Pixel42 who give me hope.

Not least because it may be that only a small percentage of the population having clear-minded intelligence and critical faculties is sufficient to cast enough light to facilitate progress and science. After all, the fact that we have seen science blossom so rapidly in historical terms, raising us out of the swamp of superstition and ignorance of the past and in the face of the continued wilfully obtuse like Haig and his ilk all around us today, shows that ignorance and lies do wither in the light of truth and real understanding.

So, thank you all for keeping on. Don't let the bastards get you down!
 
Gezz people can we just stay on topic and cut out the abuse and ad homs :thumbsup:

Just look at the facts and evidence and make your own mind up. My views are just that, mine only and remember I was invited to come on this thread and present the case for our Sun triggering Earthquakes so stop whining about it.

If you don't agree with the hypothesis, that's fine if you can point to facts and evidence to support your point, that's better :)

Plasma Eruption, Extra-Galactic Signal | S0 News Dec.3.2015

The OLR is one of the tools being used to predict, along with other factors, likely locations for earthquakes, volcanoes, major weather events etc...

Outgoing Longwave Radiation - Daily
 
Reality Check said:
There is a more likely possibility - Haig is an unpaid shill!
Haig is a follower of the Thunderbolts neo-Velikovsky cult.
Ben Davidson is a follower of the Thunderbolts neo-Velikovsky cult.
Thus Haig is acting as a good cult follower and spamming us with the delusions of Ben Davidson because Davidson is a member of the cult, not because Haig has actually thought about the subject. This is what we should expect from someone who has been "brainwashed" by a cult :rolleyes:.
N.B. I call Thunderbolts a cult because they share some attributes of a cult
  • Over 60 years of mindlessly following the dogma in a holy book ("Worlds in Collision").
  • Belief based on faith rather than evidence.
  • The words of "prophets" are also holy (Talbott, Thornhill, Scott and maybe Davidson) even when they are delusions and lies.
  • The words of "unbelievers" (scientists) are considered lies or delusions.
  • Some isolation of cult followers in the Thunderbolts forum where people asking for reasonable evidence can be arbitrarily banned.
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Fully agree. No doubt whatsoever, it's a cult.
 
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Haig said:
Gezz people can we just stay on topic and cut out the abuse and ad homs :thumbsup:

Just look at the facts and evidence and make your own mind up. My views are just that, mine only and remember I was invited to come on this thread and present the case for our Sun triggering Earthquakes so stop whining about it.

If you don't agree with the hypothesis, that's fine if you can point to facts and evidence to support your point, that's better :)

Plasma Eruption, Extra-Galactic Signal | S0 News Dec.3.2015

The OLR is one of the tools being used to predict, along with other factors, likely locations for earthquakes, volcanoes, major weather events etc...

Outgoing Longwave Radiation - Daily
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All known physics. QED. :rolleyes:
 
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leonAzul said:
Terrestrial events have terrestrial consequences. *yawns*
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Yeah, the Suspicious Observers business plan follows the South Park model:

1. Some stuff happened on the Sun
2. Some stuff happened on the Earth
3. ????????
4. Profit!!!!!!!
 
leonAzul said:
Terrestrial events have terrestrial consequences. *yawns*



This isn't even wrong. At 13'' the narrator states "it has virtually nothing to do with the sun".

Do you even check this crap before you spew it?
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He was making a different point :p If you had watched a bit more at 1m 20s he gets to this ... HERE Just over a min is on topic. Have I got to dig it out for you ALL the time ? ;)

I think you need to take a refresher on what this is ALL about ...

Feel free to miss these if you know it all already :D

Earthquakes and the Solar System


EARTHSPOTS: Storms and Earthquakes [Update]

 
Haig said:
Have I got to dig it out for you ALL the time ? ;)
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No thank you, I'll scratch my own arse at my leisure.

Haig said:
I think you need to take a refresher on what this is ALL about ...

Feel free to miss these if you know it all already :D

Earthquakes and the Solar System


EARTHSPOTS: Storms and Earthquakes [Update]

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Merely spewing more BoobTube does not explain how events measured in μT can influence plate tectonics on Earth.
 
leonAzul said:
No thank you, I'll scratch my own arse at my leisure.
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I'm SO glad to hear that !!!! :eek:

leonAzul said:
Merely spewing more BoobTube does not explain how events measured in μT can influence plate tectonics on Earth.
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This large PDF should give you a clue :D

Earth’s Magnetic Field PDF
Variations in the external part of the geomagnetic field induce secondary variations in Earth’s crust and mantle which are used to study the electrical properties of the Earth, giving insight into temperature and composition in these regions
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Then there is this! Stop it if you've heard it before ;)

The Earthquake Frontier
 
Haig said:
Latest: a M7 Quake triggered by our Sun - Earth connection

M7 Quake, Fukushima Radiation | S0 News Dec.5.2015
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How?

The forces are so weak that one doesn't notice them visibly affecting a magnetised compass needle. Try it next time there is an aurora event at your lattitude.

Most rocks (including lodestone) are less sensitive to magnetic fields than modern compasses. Try it - get a piece of rock and suspend it on a string then bring a magnet near it. Repeat with a modern compass. Note which is more sensitive.

If the solar storm doesn't visibly affect a compass, and your proposed mechanism is magnetic, why do you think it would effect an earthquake - where it would have to move rocks?
 
jimbob said:
How?

The forces are so weak that one doesn't notice them visibly affecting a magnetised compass needle. Try it next time there is an aurora event at your lattitude.

Most rocks (including lodestone) are less sensitive to magnetic fields than modern compasses. Try it - get a piece of rock and suspend it on a string then bring a magnet near it. Repeat with a modern compass. Note which is more sensitive.

If the solar storm doesn't visibly affect a compass, and your proposed mechanism is magnetic, why do you think it would effect an earthquake - where it would have to move rocks?
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No one is claiming to know ALL the details but if you have followed the points made in the videos I linked to HERE it's clear where the hypothesis is going.

If you need a bit more guidance the following should help ...


DOES THE SUN TRIGGER LARGE EARTHQUAKES?
Dr. Kongpop U-yen states that this analysis “suggests that their [M8+ earthquakes] major trigger mechanisms are external to the Earth. This may be linked to the electrical connections between the Earth and the Sun. Many seismologists have detected the fluctuation in electric fields in the Earth’s crust associated with earthquakes. Such an idea can be extended beyond the Earth’s crust toward the ionosphere and Van Allen radiation belts as they all move along together. NASA scientists also hypothesize that there are giant electric fields that power the Van Allen radiation belts, and have suggested that the Sun is the major contributor.” The connection is no longer limited to the surrounding space or Earth’s atmosphere, but to the penetration toward the Earth’s core as well. “After looking at the complete data set, it is not difficult for anyone to see that there is a connection. To be sure we did not fool ourselves, we back up this finding using verifiable statistical analysis.”

Earth’s magnetosphere has been weakening since the 1600s, and Dr. U-yen is curious about the recent results from the ESA’s SWARM mission having a role to play in these earthquake correlations; “recently Earth’s magnetic fields are weakening more rapidly than in the past, making us more susceptible to space weather than ever before.”
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Earthquake and hurricane coupling is ascertained by ground-based laser interferometer and satellite observing techniques PDF
Conclusions
As a result of comparison of geophysical field variations and seismic activity of the Earth we have found the evident correlation between lithosphere–atmosphere interactive disturbances, tropical cyclone activity in the World Ocean, and seismic processes in the solid Earth. The found correlation can be interpreted as appearing or increase in amplitude the wide-band oscillations disturbed by typhoons and hurricanes which together with quasi-static pressure loading on the ocean bottom provoke powerful earthquakes through the triggering effect.
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Signatures of ocean storms on seismic records in South China Sea and East China Sea
Abstract
Ocean storms on seismic records reveal coupling mechanisms between Earth’s spheres. We analyzed temporal and spatial signatures of ocean storms on seismic records in the South China and East China Seas.
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Haig said:
Surely you can sift facts from opinions ?
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I shouldn't have to. This thread is (for the moment) in Science sub forum, not Religion. Wanna post goatse-sourced opinions, make a thread in Religion. You've been posting nonscience in a Science area. Amazingly, the mods let you keep doing it.
 
I, of course, am comforted by the thought that Mr Haig and all of his chums must be contacting all of the areas that they know will be hit in plenty of time, so that the emergency services in these regions can prepare for the damage...

And not just trying to make amusing comments in an Internet forum...
 
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Jrrarglblarg said:
I shouldn't have to. This thread is (for the moment) in Science sub forum, not Religion. Wanna post goatse-sourced opinions, make a thread in Religion. You've been posting nonscience in a Science area. Amazingly, the mods let you keep doing it.
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Sure it's science and it's been published in a peer reviewed journal :p

Rincewind said:
I, of course, am comforted by the thought that Mr Haig and all of his chums must be contacting all of the areas that they know will be hit in plenty of time, so that the emergency services in these regions can prepare for the damage...

And not just trying to make amusing comments in an Internet forum...
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Earthquakes aren't funny and if this science can predict when and where they will occur lives can be saved that surely must be worth looking into !!!! :mad:
 
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