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What surface changes happened on Tempel 1 in the 6 years before stardust came past to re image the nucleus?

Are you saying RC, the crater stayed in pristine condition when there are obvious surface changes.

You have seen the blurry grainy pictures they used to measure the diameter of the crater?

I'd expect there to be an electrical component to the impact crater as documented HERE the central mound and the dark "ring" are signature of electrical scarring.

First hint would have been the double flash that Wal Thornhill predicted and the far more energetic "explosion" that was observed, that stopped the primary mission achieving its goal.

If it was ice
Water ice was detected in the ejecta.[7] The water ice came from 1 meter below the surface crust (the devolatized layer around the nucleus).[7]
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wiki, then how much sublimed away to make the crater bigger?

Would this not be expected under the mainstream common cometary model?
 
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Sol88: Ignorant fantasies and lies about Deep Impact and Tempel 1

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Are you saying RC, the crater stayed in pristine condition when there are obvious surface changes.
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17 August 2017 Sol88: Ignorant fantasies and lies about Deep Impact and Tempel 1.
His 8 year long delusion is that comets are rocks. So he wants sublimation (that he thinks does not exist) making a crater in rock bigger :eye-poppi!

17 August 2017 Sol88: A link to his ignorant and deluded Thunderbolts cult.

17 August 2017 Sol88: His delusion that the craters are electric.

17 August 2017 Sol88: His delusion that "the central mound and the dark "ring" are signature of electrical scarring".

17 August 2017 Sol88: A "dark ring" lie (there is the light ring of the crater rim with a shadow).

17 August 2017 Sol88: Mindless parroting of Wal Thornhill's "double flash" & energy lies.
28 November 2010 (:eek:): The lies, failures and "successes" of Thunderbolts Deep Impact predictions
The lies
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17 August 2017 Sol88: A lie of "that stopped the primary mission achieving its goal".
The primary mission of Deep Impact was to hit the comet so that the ejecta could be observed to study its internal composition. That succeeded.

Two years and counting of fear of doing basic physics: 25 June 2015 Sol88: Use a impact calculator to calculate the size of the crater on a comet made of rock by the Deep Impact impactor.
The parroting of the Thunderbolt cult ignorance, delusions and lies in this thread alone (continuation of a thread that is now 8 years of delusions from Sol88)
10th April 2015: The ignorance, delusions and lies in the Thunderbolts web site, videos, etc. [/
 
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Some science for those who are interested.
Before and after images of the Deep Impact site are at Tempel 1 Impact Site. Some notes.
  • The Deep Impact before image is a composite so processed a bit.
  • The sizes of the other features in the before and after images have not measurably changed.
  • It looks like the images were taken at different times of "day" since the shadows are different in the Stardust-NExT image.
 
So just a best guesstimate then?

Nothing can be measured from the photo supplied, in fact it looks very much like the alcove and the pit like feature to the North have joined together!

So unless you're really clutching at straws the crater size is nothing but based on prior expectations!

e.g we expected to hit dust and ice and we did, yay!

but when we measured the surface of a comet and expected to measure the hardness of said dust and ice we found it to be much, much harder than expected and because that DOES not fit with expectation of what a comet should be made out of it's relegated to the data that does not "fit" our expectations bin.

If the impactor did indeed (more than likely hit "well consolidated terrain") impact soft rock one would expect more dust than ice, as observed (and predicted).
 
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Sol88: Delusions and lies about the Stardust-NExT image and MUPUS results

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So just a best guesstimate then?
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17 August 2017 Sol88: Delusions and lies about the Stardust-NExT image and MUPUS results.
  • A "guesstimate" delusion.
    The size of the crater is a measurement. All the image quality does is add more uncertainty to the measurement. The crater is 150 +/ 10 meters wide rather than Instead of 150 +/- 1 meters wide (example uncertainties only).
  • A ""prior expectations" lie.
    The size of the crater is a measurement from the image, not any expectations.
  • A lie of "it's relegated to the data that does not "fit" our expectations bin".
    What the MUPUS result showed was that 1 location on 1 comet had a harder than designed for layer of ices and dust. That data has been put into the bin of "explained data".
17 August 2017 Sol88: Adds a delusion that Deep Impact hit "soft rock"
17 August 2017 Sol88: A lie about a prediction of the amount of dust and ices from Deep Impact hitting rock.
17 August 2015 Sol88: The delusion that "well consolidated terrain" means his comets are rocks delusion.
 
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An update to the items of ignorance, delusion and lies list:
216 items of ignorance, delusion and lies dating from 29 August 2016 to 13 August 2017 (maybe hundreds more in the last 8 years!)
  1. 15 August 2015 Sol88: The delusion that "well consolidated material" means his comets are rocks delusion.
  2. 16 August 2017 Sol88: A lie about "lack of maths skills" - that question exposes your fear of basic physics!
  3. 16 August 2017 Sol88: Reminds everyone of 8 years of the delusion that 0.6 is 3.0.
  4. 16 August 2017 Sol88: Ignorant statement about Rosetta (launched before Deep Impact)!
  5. 16 August 2017 Sol88: The idiocy of citing a paper that means that Comet Tempel 1 was softer than predicted
  6. 17 August 2017 Sol88: Ignorant fantasies and lies about Deep Impact and Tempel 1.
  7. 17 August 2017 Sol88: A link to his ignorant and deluded Thunderbolts cult.
  8. 17 August 2017 Sol88: His delusion that the craters are electric.
  9. 17 August 2017 Sol88: His delusion that "the central mound and the dark "ring" are signature of electrical scarring".
  10. 17 August 2017 Sol88: A "dark ring" lie (there is the light ring of the crater rim with a shadow).
  11. 17 August 2017 Sol88: Mindless parroting of Wal Thornhill's "double flash" & energy lies.
  12. 17 August 2017 Sol88: A lie of "that stopped the primary mission achieving its goal".
  13. 17 August 2017 Sol88: Delusions and lies about the Stardust-NExT image and MUPUS results.
  14. 17 August 2017 Sol88: Adds a delusion that Deep Impact hit "soft rock"
  15. 17 August 2017 Sol88: A lie about a prediction of the amount of dust and ices from Deep Impact hitting rock.
  16. 17 August 2015 Sol88: The delusion that "well consolidated terrain" means his comets are rocks delusion.
 
Reality Check said:
Questions with deafening silence emphasizing the complete uselessness of the comets are rocks delusion.
  1. 14 August 2017 Sol88: Comets are rocks so where did that rock come from?
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It's not ROCK but it is Consolidated rocky-like material
Maftet Rock-like
Bastet Rock-like
Serqet Rock-like
Hathor Rock-like
Anuket
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Or as me old mate says
(c) Whatarecometsmadeof? At the simplest level, a very basic question is whether comets are mostly ice or mostly rock/dirt/refractory material. Whipple’s [2] model of the dirty snowball, the rst quantitative model, envisioned cometary nuclei as mostly ice, although our understanding has been evolving more toward mostly rock, particularly for 67P/C-G for which refractory/volatile ratios as high as 6 have been cited [3,4]. N
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So I don't know where the rock came from!

But there you have it!
 
So what is the difference between CONSOLIDATED material, ROCK-like and ROCK, Reality Check?

Density? Composition?

please keep in mind the nucleus bulk density!
 
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http://blogs.esa.int/rosetta/2015/09/18/comet-surface-changes-before-rosettas-eyes/

Always interesting to discuss in relation to rock, well consolidated, rock-like material , take your pick but it'd do us all a favour buy calling it "rock"? You know, just for now.


https://arxiv.org/abs/1509.02794

Kinda similar on just a purely visual basis to Tempels 1's reatreating icy cliffs/powdery flows. Comet Tempel 1 90 seconds before impact. The image was taken by the targeting sensor on Deep Impact's impactor.

Or thuderdolts pseudo science mumbo jumbo...http://www.thunderbolts.info/thunderblogs/archives/special_edition/100515_se_teu7.htm

Interesting, that's all :)
 
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Sol88: Smearing astronomers with his comets are rocks, etc delusions.

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It's not ROCK but it is Consolidated rocky-like material
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18 August 2017 Sol88: Smearing astronomers with his comets are rocks, etc. delusions.
Astronomers know the observations of comets (dating from before 1950 :eye-poppi) that make 8 years of comets are rock. etc. posts into ignorant delusions.
Astronomers look at the formations that the ices and dust make in low gravity on comets and label some as "rock-like".
 
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Sol8: Insults astronomers by linking them with his comet delusions

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So I don't know where the rock came from!
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18 August 2017 Sol8: Insults astronomers by linking them with his ignorant comet delusions.
The question is about the comet delusions you have been mindless parroting for the last 8 years.
Questions with deafening silence emphasizing the complete uselessness of the comets are rocks delusion.
  1. 14 August 2017 Sol88: Comets are rocks so where did that rock come from?
 
Sol88: What is your predicted composition of comets from their origins

18 August 2017 Sol88: What is your predicted composition of comets from their origins?
This is
  • "your" as in you being a member of the Thunderbolts cult and so knowing what their comet dogma is.
  • "composition" as not a stupidly vague "rock".
    Take their origin for comets and state what the rock at the origin is comprised of.
 
Sol88: What is your predicted density of comets?

18 August 2017 Sol88: What is your predicted density of comets?
8 years so you must know this!
 
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Sol88: What is the measured density of comets

18 August 2017 Sol88: What is the measured density of comets?
8 years so you must know this!
 
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Sol88: A lie about a Rosetta blog that is not abut his comet delusions

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http://blogs.esa.int/rosetta/2015/09/18/comet-surface-changes-before-rosettas-eyes/
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18 August 2017 Sol88: A lie about a Rosetta blog that is not about nor supports his comet delusions.

Sol88 said:
https://arxiv.org/abs/1509.02794
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18 August 2017 Sol88: A lie about a paper that is not about nor supports his comet delusions.
Temporal morphological changes in the Imhotep region of comet 67P/Churyumov-Gerasimenko

18 August 2017 Sol88: A link to his ignorant, deluded and lying Thunderbolts cult.
That is an extract from a Wallace Thornhill and David Talbott book with lies about Deep Impact thus Sol88 accuses David Talbott of being a liar like Wal Thornhill :jaw-dropp!

18 August 2017 Sol88: Wal Thornhill and David Talbott published lies about "correct" predictions for Depp Impact in a 2007 book.
For example, the flash before impact lie and the unexpected energy lie.

A reminder that the Thunderbolt cult that Sol88 mindlessly parrots is not just his comets are rocks delusion.

Two years and counting of fear of doing basic physics: 25 June 2015 Sol88: Use a impact calculator to calculate the size of the crater on a comet made of rock by the Deep Impact impactor.
The parroting of the Thunderbolt cult ignorance, delusions and lies in this thread alone (continuation of a thread that is now 8 years of delusions from Sol88)
10th April 2015: The ignorance, delusions and lies in the Thunderbolts web site, videos, etc. [/QUOTE]
 
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Sol88 said:
So what is the difference between CONSOLIDATED material, ROCK-like and ROCK, Reality Check?

Density? Composition?

please keep in mind the nucleus bulk density!
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So no coherent answer from Reality Check. :confused:
 
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