You are travelling through another dimension...
My goodness, not even twelve hours go by, and just look at the carnage... I guess another recap is in order for
TruthSeeker1234.
When I left for work this morning, I had a couple of new one-sided discussions under way. One was
this thread:
http://worldtradecentertruth.com/volume/200609/SeismicFurlong.doc
I'm seeking serious comment on the merits/demerits of this paper.
To this, I wrote a lengthy,
detailed reply. And... no answer. Not even an acknowledgement.
sigh.
This morning, I among others
tore up his notions that WTC 7 fell "symmetrically," while discovering that, while he can quote the Laws of Thermodynamics, he sure doesn't understand them. Or can
distinguish them from Newton's Laws of Motion.
Any reply? Of course not. Just a
wild swerve while he shifts the focus to the Eagar paper, for reasons unknown, and he proposes that
a coffee table and a saw might be a good model for the WTC tower collapses.
sigh.
Undaunted, we have this thread, itself begun as a
rephrased question from another thread, started to avoid acknowledging an
excellent answer in that exact same thread. As if to clean the slate, we began anew:
In another thread I had said: ... "No breaking windows from heat at WTC."
Clearly Hans is suggesting that heat broke windows at WTC. I think that's wrong. Can anyone provide evidence of windows breaking from heat at WTC? This would be video of windows popping out and falling, after the jet impacts are over with.
If someone can show this, I will stand corrected.
Let's ignore, for the moment, that
TruthSeeker1234 has
never, ever articulated
why he believes this, or where he got the idea from. Made it up, as far as I can tell.
The table showing an actual
count of windows broken by the fire was
produced again, but was the correction acknowledged? Of course not. Instead, he demanded
pictures.
Pictures were produced -- crystal clear, annotated, with full provenance! And the reaction?
I'm still waiting for any evidence that windows broke from heat. Especially WTC2. WTC1 did have severe fires, no doubt. WTC2, not so much. Seemed like they were going out after about a half hour or so.
Yes, to repeat, we do not believe the government reports. If the numbers in the table are factual, then it is pretty good proof that heat broke the windows. Problem is, that table would have had to be based on observation, on evidence. I don't see the evidence.
Yes, that's right, he "doesn't see" the evidence. How he can move his goalposts so many times without seeing what he's running from is left as an exercise.
Incredibly, his unfaltering ability to never answer anything is
not limited to questions of a conspiratorial nature! I had
this curious exchange, seemingly a ray of hope:
TruthSeeker1234 said:
It's not about defeat, it's about learning. I seek the truth. I've already stood corrected on a few points, and I say so. I've also pointed out some errors of others.
Really?? I must have missed them, could you give me an example?
How about the threads you've abandoned without comment? Ever come to any decision there? If you
are willing to learn, then perhaps you deserve more credit than your demeanor suggests.
Alas, my hopes were soon
dimmed, and finally dashed, as the answer -- like so many others -- just never comes. I'm still waiting for that one, too.
Hold off on questioning me for a moment, you can get back to that. Answer these.
The final chapter in this bizarre epic was just too much for me to handle.
TruthSeeker1234 is calling for
one-on-one moderated debate.
Everyone is dodging my questions too! Perhaps we could set up a thread where it was one on one, say me against Mackey, or Gravy or somebody. Then structure an actual debate, with postive statements, rebutalls etc.
Even if we ignore the
apparent backpedaling, this is just too much.
Why would anybody
want to debate him in the first place? What's in it for me? I submit the sordid tale above as evidence that
TruthSeeker1234 either does not understand the concept of debate, or has no real interest in it. I actually suspect the former at this point. If you have any interest in such a debate, I suggest you start volunteering some answers when questioned, or no debate with you is even possible.
TruthSeeker1234, is it possible that, back in the first thread you abandoned, you mistook one of my
Parthian shots (down at the bottom) for sincere advice, and followed it? If so, keep it up -- you are very, very near to that lofty goal. Congratulations.
And thanks for the entertainment.