FBI supports Richard Gage and his CD-theory!

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I just came across a truther that quoted the FBI director for Counter-terrorism, Michael J. Heimbach, where he expressed support (not really though) for Richard Gage and his CD theory. I dug in, and found the source to be this letter:

http://www.gators911truth.org/PDF/FBI-Response.pdf

In it a Harold Saive recieves a polite response from FBI, from all I can gather a standard form answer. However, thats not the interpretation the truthers make. Another PDF on Harold's site informs us:

"FBI acknowledges evidence for Controlled Demolition presented by Richard Gage, AIA in his VIDEO: 9/11: BLUEPRINT FOR TRUTH"

AFAIK they pull all that out of that singel letter from the FBI.

Impressive. I also wonder why the more elaborated conslusions from the FBI haven't gained such a positive response from the Truther movement...

EDIT: And apparently Gage is now cooperating with the FBI:

This stunning reply from Michael J. Heimbach - head of the FBI's domestic counterterrorism division has inspired Gage's group of 600 Architects, Engineers and building professionals to establish a dialog with Heimbach's team in order to facilitate Gage's goal of a criminal investigation of the 9/11 crimes of mass murder, destruction of property and government cover-up
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Also, Heimbach is a hero:

FBI Director Heimbach is a career public servant who displayed courage by placing his name next to evidence that will surely expose the government and media cover-up of 9/11 in a court of Law.---
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OMG!!!11!!

He signed the letter "sincerely yours" ... the FBI is SINCERE about a new investigation!!!11!!

... and 'yours' means the author is secretly telling us he is 'one of us'.!!

</truther>
 
This is the same FBI that faked all the DNA evidence at the Pentagon?
 
WildCat said:
This is the same FBI that faked all the DNA evidence at the Pentagon?
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Yes, and it's the same FBI the covered up the recovery of the black boxes in New York.

So the "truthers" have exposed the FBI liars, except when they state that Osama bin Laden in not wanted in regard to 9/11. Then the FBI is telling the truth.
 
The Richard Gage - FBI cooperation, whatever happened?

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Richard Gage got an endorsement by brave public servant, head of FBI's Counterterrorism Div, - Michael J. Heimbach:

This stunning reply from Michael J. Heimbach - head of the FBI's domestic counterterrorism division has inspired Gage's group of 600 Architects, Engineers and building professionals to establish a dialog with Heimbach's team in order to facilitate Gage's goal of a criminal investigation of the 9/11 crimes of mass murder, destruction of property and government cover-up
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Did they (AAEtruth) ever publish any elaboration on this "dialog" between Gage and the "FBI team"?

Linky:
http://gators911truth.org/PDF/FBI-Gage-DVD-NEW.pdf
http://gators911truth.org/MOV-BLUEPRINT.html
 
Do you really have to ask? You know that it'll never get mentioned again aside from that blurb, just so the drones can go "1200 ARCHITECTS AND ENGINEERS DISAGREE, AND THEY ALSO ARE WORKING WITH THE FBI SO TAKE THAT" and then when questioned, they will start telling you about how it's impossible for a steel framed building to fall due to fire.
 
To this "dialog between Gage and the FBI team" did the feds bring cigarets, bright lights and a lot of yelling?

Eta: And we all know the Failed Building Inspectors are experts on building collapses.
 
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Pardalis said:
Alligators for 9/11 truth?
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I never keep up with all their abbreviations, I was going for "Architects And Engineers". EDIT: Oh, now I see it. The links.

So I guess they were equally politely ignored and so found it best to just keep quiet about it.

The funny thing is, one one hand they accuse "the man" of massmurder and foul conspiracies, on the other hand they jump up and down when the same gives them some small token of being seen.
 
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Panoply_Prefect said:
Did they (AAEtruth) ever publish any elaboration on this "dialog" between Gage and the "FBI team"?
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Not that I've found, but how much you wanna bet that that "dialog" consisted of nothing more than that FBI form letter from December 2008? Which, as you pointed out last year*, was nothing more than a "Thank you for the tip, the FBI takes all such matters seriously, blah blah blah..." form blowoff letter.

They're not above distorting other elements of history to make their claims look reasonable, so why not distort the FBI's reaction to make their claims look legitimate? I don't put that beyond them.


*Obviously, I'm pointing this out for the benefit of other readers. I know you already know this.
 
From my job with the police, I know it's easier to totally go along with the headcases, instead of arguing with them, telling them they are wrong.

"Suuure there are people sending control rays through your body, ma'am. We'll look into it and take appropriate action..."
*click*
 
Bell said:
From my job with the police, I know it's easier to totally go along with the headcases, instead of arguing with them, telling them they are wrong.

"Suuure there are people sending control rays through your body, ma'am. We'll look into it and take appropriate action..."
*click*
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Interesting coincidence. Just today, I received a claim against the police department that I represent, from a fellow who alleges that the police department itself has been sending control rays through his body (and a whole lot of other batcrapcrazy stuff, including hologram police officers at his door, somehow causing a 'wraith' to exit his body and then enter his facial orifices to lodge in his brain which is causing him insomnia, fear and anxiety, etc.)

It's a mixed up, muddled up, shook up world...
 
LashL said:
Interesting coincidence. Just today, I received a claim against the police department that I represent, from a fellow who alleges that the police department itself has been sending control rays through his body (and a whole lot of other batcrapcrazy stuff, including hologram police officers at his door, somehow causing a 'wraith' to exit his body and then enter his facial orifices to lodge in his brain which is causing him insomnia, fear and anxiety, etc.)

It's a mixed up, muddled up, shook up world...
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Wow, that's crazy! Everyone knows the NWO wouldn't let a measly police department get ahold of advanced hologram technology. Control rays - yes; hologram techology - no!
 
Alt+F4 said:
Yes, and it's the same FBI the covered up the recovery of the black boxes in New York.

So the "truthers" have exposed the FBI liars, except when they state that Osama bin Laden in not wanted in regard to 9/11. Then the FBI is telling the truth.
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And its the same FBI that helped coverup all the explosive evidence at Fresh Kills. ;)
 
Panoply_Prefect said:
The funny thing is, one one hand they accuse "the man" of massmurder and foul conspiracies, on the other hand they jump up and down when the same gives them some small token of being seen.
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Spot on.

"Yay, the evil conspirators are going to investigate their own crimes!"
 
orphia nay said:
Spot on.

"Yay, the evil conspirators are going to investigate their own crimes!"
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Its just like Heiwa, arguing that "the man" is faking it, using holograms and whatnot and that more or less everyone is "in on it", but when he gets a letter to the editor published in Journal of Engineering Mechanics, it takes less time than saying "clunketi-clunk" before he uses the words "peer-reviewed" to emphasise just how great it is being published in established media.
 
I thought it was a really nice letter. I hope it came with an enclosed plastic DEPUTY badge. You know, like those ones that are shaped like a star.
 
Well i guess there must be mentally ill people working for the FBI
now right guys? I mean anybody who believes any twoofer
bs must be mentally ill right guys?
 
thecritta said:
Well i guess there must be mentally ill people working for the FBI
now right guys? I mean anybody who believes any twoofer
bs must be mentally ill right guys?
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There's a burn mark on the wall several feet above your head.
 
just a thought -

Is it possible that there really were explosives in the basement of the WTC (planted by George Bush of course. Not really - planted by Al Q.)? It happened in 1993. It almost makes sense - crash planes into buildings, bomb the structures too. Evidence would never be found under all that steel. It doesn't make it an "inside job", and it would be pretty easy to do (compared with the main attack)
 
thecritta said:
Well i guess there must be mentally ill people working for the FBI
now right guys? I mean anybody who believes any twoofer
bs must be mentally ill right guys?
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Nowere in the FBI letter I read the FBI states they believe Gage's BS :confused:
 
Liszt said:
just a thought -

Is it possible that there really were explosives in the basement of the WTC (planted by George Bush of course. Not really - planted by Al Q.)? It happened in 1993. It almost makes sense - crash planes into buildings, bomb the structures too. Evidence would never be found under all that steel. It doesn't make it an "inside job", and it would be pretty easy to do (compared with the main attack)
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The biggest clue to suggest that this did not happen is the fact that both towers started to collapse from the top. :rolleyes:
 
dang, i have missread :)

forget it
 
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Bell said:
The biggest clue to suggest that this did not happen is the fact that both towers started to collapse from the top. :rolleyes:
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Another clue is that no one sustained injuries consistent with explosions, such as pierced eardrums. All injuries in the lower stories were consistent with conflagrations and burning. (And some of course with falling and the like).
 
fitzgibbon said:
I was going to ask you just what process would allow basement-dwelling explosives to cause a top-down CD but I see you've noticed the disconnect.

NVM

Fitz
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yeah lol i didnt realise the alleged explosive beeing installed in the basement ;)

i thought it is the Top down CD not possible argument . but it wasnt
 
DC said:
yeah lol i didnt realise the alleged explosive beeing installed in the basement ;)

i thought it is the Top down CD not possible argument . but it wasnt
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That said, the video you linked to is a nice resource (if it wasn't a known quantity already that is) for debunking the WTC top-down CD assertion. So many disconnects demonstrated in that video that didn't happen on the WTC.
 
fitzgibbon said:
That said, the video you linked to is a nice resource (if it wasn't a known quantity already that is) for debunking the WTC top-down CD assertion. So many disconnects demonstrated in that video that didn't happen on the WTC.
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dunno if its the one with sound or the one without sound, havent sound here.
but when its with sound it has a point more to point out differences.



this one confirms the possibility of a top down progressive collapse.
 
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