Bigfoot Follies: part deux

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This is a continuation from the previous thread which can be found HERE. As always, the split point is arbitrary and participants are free to quote from the previous thread into this one.
Posted By: Agatha




I can't think of a super power that Bigfoot hasn't been accused of possessing:

Size and strength of the Hulk
Speed of the Flash
Mind Powers of Professor X
Ability to create portals and transport like Nightcrawler
Tony Stark like intelligence and ability to manipulate technology
Hairiness of Wolverine
The ability to flutter in people's ears like the Tick's sidekick moth Arthur
 
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Situational Incompetence

What a great term! I don't know if John Nowak coined it, but this seems to be an iron law of BLAARGing. There is no exception to this rule because nobody ever comes away from an encounter with evidence. It is ten thousand Mighty Casey batters up to the plate, and every one struck out.

It is the great irony of proclaiming to be researchers with competence so far above the lazy, ignorant scientists and skeptics, but a record of zero-for-ten-thousand.

We need a term that describes the fact none of them go to the logical authorities or make the appropriate warnings to people. We have the wood ape clowns actually filing tax status as a charitable organization for habitat preservation without having nominated one molecule of habitat for preservation. We have BLAARGer's claiming the need to arm themselves with deadly weapons, passing by women pushing baby strollers, and not warning them of their infant's life being in danger. Neither of the above meets with pertinent land managers, wildlife researchers, or law enforcement officials to convey their alleged life-threatening concerns.

Actions are opposite of words, but I don't have a catchy term for it like "situational incompetence" - batteries die, camera shakey, running away, out of film, dog ate my homework excuses.
 
We can easily tell the difference between a real animal that is rare and a fake animal that is simply claimed to be rare. Peregrine Falcons are rare. I mentioned earlier that DDT and legal shooting meant that there were no birds of prey near my home when I was young. You can now see Kestrels, Sharp-shinned, and Red-tails. But, let's look at the Peregrine.

There are only 300 pairs in the entire Midwest. There are 16 nesting pairs in Indiana and almost all of them are near Lake Michigan. However, in 2012 pair showed up on top of one of Statesman Towers at ISU at Terre Haute. They were excited about this because there there hadn't been a nesting pair in the entire Wabash Valley in 50 or 60 years.

The female at this nest was born in Missouri at the Washington University Medical School nest. She is banded black/green S/34.

Her mate was born at the IPL Stout Plant in Indianapolis in 2008. He is banded black/green N/83.

They try to find every nest and band every chick so they can keep track of them. This is what happens with real scientists when real animals are rare.

Has anyone here heard of a bigfoot tagging or radio tracking project?
 
John Nowak said:
Thank you! I thought I had, but apparently it's been proposed as the name of a disadvantage in a pen-an-paper role playing game:

http://forums.dumpshock.com/lofiversion/index.php/t16406.html

I also find that "situational competence" is in fact, a thing. No idea what it means, though.
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How interesting!

A character with this negative quality is impaired in his ability to use a certain Active skill he or she possesses (chosen when this quality is taken) for some reason. The reasoning behind this, and the exact limitations are chosen by the player (subject to the gamemaster’s approval) but should generally preclude the character from using the skill to it’s full effectiveness or from using the majority of the skill’s applications as defined by it’s specializations.
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So this is a parallel character feature chosen by players of other games.

They have this skill (bigfoot researcher/hunter). But the player also chooses to impair this skill - place limitations on it - so that it cannot be fully applied.

The player cannot hold a camera steady. The player's batteries die. The player is seized up with fear in the presence of bigfoot - the one thing he is supposedly programmed to do best...etc.


Situational incompetence is a core feature of the bigfoot researcher/hunter, and is a character quality that is not unique to the bigfoot game.
 
New thread, but is there any chance of anything new being said?
 
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barehl said:
We can easily tell the difference between a real animal that is rare and a fake animal that is simply claimed to be rare. Peregrine Falcons are rare. I mentioned earlier that DDT and legal shooting meant that there were no birds of prey near my home when I was young. You can now see Kestrels, Sharp-shinned, and Red-tails. But, let's look at the Peregrine.

There are only 300 pairs in the entire Midwest. There are 16 nesting pairs in Indiana and almost all of them are near Lake Michigan. However, in 2012 pair showed up on top of one of Statesman Towers at ISU at Terre Haute. They were excited about this because there there hadn't been a nesting pair in the entire Wabash Valley in 50 or 60 years.

The female at this nest was born in Missouri at the Washington University Medical School nest. She is banded black/green S/34.

Her mate was born at the IPL Stout Plant in Indianapolis in 2008. He is banded black/green N/83.

They try to find every nest and band every chick so they can keep track of them. This is what happens with real scientists when real animals are rare.

Has anyone here heard of a bigfoot tagging or radio tracking project?
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Why would bigfoot want to do that to humans?
 
This was asked in part 1 in relation to "infrasound" attacks

"I'm not familiar with all of the bigfoot lore. Is this a thing? Bigfoot sonic superpowers? I always figured they would sound like Chewbacca."

The "infrasound" attack is the most recent malarkey to explain feeling faint.

I attribute it to the influx of out of shape individuals that have little to no outdoor experience other than pedestrian Bigfoot "expeditions" into a local park.

They are already on edge while in the presence of the "beast" that lives in their head, and most likley physically taxed, then experience some sort of minor medical issue related to their diabetes, heart disease, ect.

Of course they're there with others of the same mindset....so let the group hysteria commence.....it goes something like this...

"yeah I heard that....oh god did you feel that....aaaarrrgghhhh Bigfoots attacking!!"
"Man down..man down!" at this point guns are drawn and a tactical retreat is initiated or they run/waddle to the car....then go home and get on the net and report their most recent Bigfoot encounter as fact.
They generally look like this...some wear the same clothes they wore at their last encounter hoping Bigfoot will recognize them.

Packing large and in charge!!!


Maybe they never got to play army as kids?
 
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I'm starting to think that it takes a slight mental deficiency to "believe" in bigfoot. (for those that truly believe, and arent gaming) From what I've witnessed here and on other boards, I'll for the most part stop participating in the silliness. I hope that some of those posters that keep on insisting they interact with, or see this creature regularly get some real help. Go visit a professional doctor that can help with your condition. (yes, I'm being serious.) Some of the "believers" seriously need to consult professional help and tell those professionals about their "experiences". Posting on a forum will not help you, nor will scouting the woods for a mythological beast.
 
River said:
I'm starting to think that it takes a slight mental deficiency to "believe" in bigfoot. (for those that truly believe, and arent gaming) From what I've witnessed here and on other boards, I'll for the most part stop participating in the silliness. I hope that some of those posters that keep on insisting they interact with, or see this creature regularly get some real help. Go visit a professional doctor that can help with your condition. (yes, I'm being serious.) Some of the "believers" seriously need to consult professional help and tell those professionals about their "experiences". Posting on a forum will not help you, nor will scouting the woods for a mythological beast.
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Sometimes it's difficult to judge when to engage and when to not. In fact, the general silly nature of bigfoot belief makes it nigh impossible to discern a footer from a troll from a gamer. Just lately, OntarioSquatch, our missing correspondent, has started a thread at the BFF about the Siege at Honobia.
http://www.bfro.net/avevid/ouachita/siege-at-honobia.asp

It's very hard to accept that rational adults could possibly take such a thing seriously, yet . . .
 
Yes, I also noticed that OS started a BFF thread wherein he stated it would be a simple thing to genetically modify a human so that it looked like a bigfoot, but was otherwise identical at the DNA level.

How does one take such claims as serious and not simple, childish fantasy?
 
dmaker said:
Yes, I also noticed that OS started a BFF thread wherein he stated it would be a simple thing to genetically modify a human so that it looked like a bigfoot, but was otherwise identical at the DNA level.

How does one take such claims as serious and not simple, childish fantasy?
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he must be in junior high.
 
Well the gaming did get difficult here with being pressed for not believing himself. Playing the game with other 'footers has a whole different nature to it. :p

The siege story rings quite true because they are so concerned about the lives of the wife and children - so willing to do anything to get rid of the bigfeet - that they are unwilling to contact either law enforcement or fish & game.

We learn at the end of the story that the wild shooting has attracted the attention of fish and game officials:

the location soon came under surveillance by the state fish and game office. The residents could no longer do 'hunting' off the back porch, or shoot fairly indiscriminately into the night.
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How could law enforcement have it so backwards? Defense of life and property is legal. And here they are doing surveillance of the 'footers and putting a stop to their activities instead of helping them defend themselves. :eye-poppi

I guess that's why they never contact law enforcement or fish and game. If you tell them you are shooting up the place to kill bigfoot - they're going to arrest you.
 
I must correct my previous post. OS did not say a simple thing, but theoretically possible. What theory he is drawing upon, is beyond me. The actual claim was:

"If you were to genetically modify a human being to look and behave like Sasquatch (it's theoretically possible), the result would be the same. You would get mitochondrial DNA that's 100% modern human."

I think someone is taking too much from Dr.Moreau :) Though strictly speaking, Moreau was more vivisection iirc.


If one were to indulge the fantasy, the inevitable question would be who would do this modification and why? I thought most conspiracy theories supported the idea of sasquatch suppression. Perhaps aliens?
 
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I would like some opinions on this certain section of this video. Skip to 3:40 and you can even mute it because the commentary is meaningless. Take a look at the size of the white tree leaning up against the other. That is massive and I would like some thoughts on how it occurred.

Let me be very clear on this, I DO NOT believe this is Bigfoot related. I do not think even a team of Squatches could pull this off. That tree is huge! The only reason I'm posting it here is because these guys are out looking for the big guy and I really only post in these threads.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rloFmaRo-u0

Any thoughts?
 
Looks like the stump was nearby, a few meters. Looks like that tree burned-through near the base and then fell over. It hit the other tree at the top and then bounced-off its burned base to land where it is now. Coulda been helped by wind over time. Also, the other tree might have grown some since the dead one leaned on it, pulling on it.

That's my guess.
 
Cervelo said:
^^^
Do you know these guys?
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No. They've put out a couple of videos. The one before this one they claim lots of action happening at that location, including being hit in the middle of the back by a rock. They show it and I'm not really buying it. The size of the rock would have put the guy down. It was softball sized.
 
Two tubby guys stumbling around in the woods with no idea what they're looking at. Check.

"We're goin' into hostile territory."

"I keep seeing a face pop out."

Then both cameras and their cellphones died. Classic.

As for the trees . . . trees fall down. Dead trees with massive fire scars fall down even more often than do healthy trees. The big white tree most likely got to its present position just as Donn described.
 
Northern Lights said:
I would like some opinions on this certain section of this video. Skip to 3:40 and you can even mute it because the commentary is meaningless. Take a look at the size of the white tree leaning up against the other. That is massive and I would like some thoughts on how it occurred.

Let me be very clear on this, I DO NOT believe this is Bigfoot related. I do not think even a team of Squatches could pull this off. That tree is huge! The only reason I'm posting it here is because these guys are out looking for the big guy and I really only post in these threads.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rloFmaRo-u0

Any thoughts?
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Tree goes on fire, top of tree falls against neighbouring tree and tangles in it. Bottom of tree burns enough that burnt tree hinges about their common entangled tops to swing it's base towards unburnt tree. I see stuff like this all the time in woods near me an I'm thousands of miles from Squatchnia.
 
Northern Lights said:
No. They've put out a couple of videos. The one before this one they claim lots of action happening at that location, including being hit in the middle of the back by a rock. They show it and I'm not really buying it. The size of the rock would have put the guy down. It was softball sized.
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Well that should have been a liitle indication of how full of poop these guys are...where shall we start?

The statement about how they had just been there Monday and now it's Saturday and there wasn't any wind so it couldn't have been wind...sure!

Fake looking handprints to me or wishful thinking


Zapped by Bigfoot...maybe get Chris on this he's had alot of experience of being in the woods and out of breath.

And finally the tree...big deal all I see is burned out dead stuff everywhere hopefully these doofus's will stay in the area and get to experience what a widow maker is capable of...but I'm sure they will claim Bigfoot did it with their dying breath.
Seriously the give away is they didn't give a good 360 view of this location which would reveal the source of the tree in the vid.

Meaning they are just doing what all their ilk do....playing "Bigfoot Researcher" and driving hits to their website and youtube channel.

But hey even I can do it....
http://youtu.be/pM3io9-CqNk
 
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FINALLY! Another Bigfoot thread. It's been like 3½ days and I was all wondering and stuff where that really cool next Bigfoot thread was coming from, and then poof here it is. So cool! I admit it, I don't like this not seeing new Bigfoot threads on their regular and prompt 2 day schedule. It throws me off if they aren't and I'm just not myself. So let's get it together guys and not let this happen again.

YAY! Bigfoot LIVES!
 
HarryHenderson said:
FINALLY! Another Bigfoot thread. It's been like 3½ days and I was all wondering and stuff where that really cool next Bigfoot thread was coming from, and then poof here it is. So cool! I admit it, I don't like this not seeing new Bigfoot threads on their regular and prompt 2 day schedule. It throws me off if they aren't and I'm just not myself. So let's get it together guys and not let this happen again.

YAY! Bigfoot LIVES!
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Hey don't blame me. The mods (randomly?) ended the old Bigfoot Follies and decided the start a new one with my post in the old thread.
 
Do Bigfoots get into fights with each other that result in death? Does the killer just leave the body laying there or do they hide it from humans?

What would happen if a British Columbia Bigfoot were to somehow meet a Pennsylvania Bigfoot? Would they fight, or would they quickly team up to help each other avoid human confirmation of existence? Or, would the Canadian Bigfoot simply not care if an American Bigfoot is confirmed to exist?

Do all the Bigfoots in the world accurately know that their kind has never been confirmed by humans, or might some of them be wrong and feel that our kind has confirmed them? Do they argue with each other over their personal views on things like that?

Do any young rebellious Bigfoots ever threaten to "turn themselves over to the humans" as a way to manipulate other Bigfoots (like maybe their parents)? Can they blackmail each other with that kind of threat?
 
William Parcher said:
Do Bigfoots get into fights with each other that result in death? Does the killer just leave the body laying there or do they hide it from humans?

What would happen if a British Columbia Bigfoot were to somehow meet a Pennsylvania Bigfoot? Would they fight, or would they quickly team up to help each other avoid human confirmation of existence? Or, would the Canadian Bigfoot simply not care if an American Bigfoot is confirmed to exist?

Do all the Bigfoots in the world accurately know that their kind has never been confirmed by humans, or might some of them be wrong and feel that our kind has confirmed them? Do they argue with each other over their personal views on things like that?

Do any young rebellious Bigfoots ever threaten to "turn themselves over to the humans" as a way to manipulate other Bigfoots (like maybe their parents)? Can they blackmail each other with that kind of threat?
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Actually there is only one bigfoot, he manifests Himself to the one who is the most sincere in the quest.
 
River said:
I'm starting to think that it takes a slight mental deficiency to "believe" in bigfoot. (for those that truly believe, and arent gaming) From what I've witnessed here and on other boards, I'll for the most part stop participating in the silliness. I hope that some of those posters that keep on insisting they interact with, or see this creature regularly get some real help. Go visit a professional doctor that can help with your condition. (yes, I'm being serious.) Some of the "believers" seriously need to consult professional help and tell those professionals about their "experiences". Posting on a forum will not help you, nor will scouting the woods for a mythological beast.
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I more or less agree with you though I suspect slight is a kind level for the reality of the mentality.
 
dmaker said:
Yes, I also noticed that OS started a BFF thread wherein he stated it would be a simple thing to genetically modify a human so that it looked like a bigfoot, but was otherwise identical at the DNA level.

How does one take such claims as serious and not simple, childish fantasy?
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One does not take them as either, one takes them as a clear sign of mental depravity and a long term exposure to an atmosphere containing little or no oxygen. Like in the Human Centipede documentaries.........
 
Northern Lights said:
I would like some opinions on this certain section of this video. Skip to 3:40 and you can even mute it because the commentary is meaningless. Take a look at the size of the white tree leaning up against the other. That is massive and I would like some thoughts on how it occurred.

Let me be very clear on this, I DO NOT believe this is Bigfoot related. I do not think even a team of Squatches could pull this off. That tree is huge! The only reason I'm posting it here is because these guys are out looking for the big guy and I really only post in these threads.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rloFmaRo-u0

Any thoughts?
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I viewed the video and noticed alot of Sunlight coming in at that section where the white log is leaning against the tree. There's also other logs on the ground in the nearby vicinity. Given the location I'd think we have some lost logs from a skyline used by a previous logging company. When the video gets to around 5:20, they top the hill and it looks like a perfect location for a tower yarder. I know the leaning log did not show tool marks but it's been burned at the bottom, and so the saw marks could have been burned away. The other down trees show obvious chainsaw marks on them.

Personally, I think the leaning log is likely one that was lost from a skyline. Although there may very well be Sasquatch activity in that area. The log is probably unrelated to it.
Chris B.
 
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