Rapture - 23rd September 2015

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The new date has been set for the rapture, it is now set for the 23rd Septembe this year, the basis for this claim is that the date on the 7th June 1967 is interpreted as the Jews returning to Israel and when applying the 7 sets of jubilee years (360 days = 1 Jewish year) you come to the date 23rd September 2015 (day of atonement) as the rapture. Here is a video claiming this /watch?v=UiUrevq2Ko0 (apologies, internationalskeptics will not let me post live links.)

Anyone wishing to offer any commentary on this?
 
So basically around the time the next generation of Intel CPUs comes out?

Man, I knew they had maths problems before and such, but the end of the world... that's a bit harsh ;)
 
I can't comment on the date-babble, an Nibiru has no evidence of existence.

But, I always find it oddly refreshing when people, who are operating within some prophet-based belief system, are willing to assign a solid date to upcoming events predicted by that system. I think it is a perfect occasion to engage, in a curious and civil way, with them, and solicit the basis for their beliefs. To have a dialog with them right up to that date. To present your own views, exposing them to the value of an evidence-based belief system: gently, not as a troll.

And try to get them to seriously consider and discuss how they would react if nothing clear and solid happens on their date. If nothing else, I think it may help sway then to a 'wait and see' attitude before the date. Rather than doing anything irreparable, as some some have in the past: giving away all their assets, or killing their pets, or themselves.
 
The new date has been set for the rapture, it is now set for the 23rd Septembe this year, the basis for this claim is that the date on the 7th June 1967 is interpreted as the Jews returning to Israel and when applying the 7 sets of jubilee years (360 days = 1 Jewish year) you come to the date 23rd September 2015 (day of atonement) as the rapture. Here is a video claiming this /watch?v=UiUrevq2Ko0 (apologies, internationalskeptics will not let me post live links.)

Anyone wishing to offer any commentary on this?

About time.
 
I think the reason why this theory has seemed to have gained so much traction is that the 23rd September this year is also the day of atonement, and when applying jubilee years you reach this date, unfortunately it is becoming increasingly popular online.
 
Dang, I'm doing something else on the 23rd - and I can't cancel, I already paid for the tickets...

You lot will have to go ahead and get rapt without me, I'll be thinking of you; oh, and tell the big guy I'll catch up with him later.
 
You would think that Christians might have run across this since, well, it's a key scripture used to support the Rapture:

“But about that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father..." (Matthew 24:36 NIV)
 
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I view it as a way to keep the sheep in line. I first heard of the rapture in 1972. Any day now!!!!
 
Dang, I'm doing something else on the 23rd - and I can't cancel, I already paid for the tickets...

You lot will have to go ahead and get rapt without me, I'll be thinking of you; oh, and tell the big guy I'll catch up with him later.

Judging from all the previous Raptures, World Endings, Apocalypses, god removing his hand of protection, et. al. I don' think you will notice.
 
You would think that Christians might have run across this since, well, it's a key scripture used to support the Rapture:

“But about that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father..." (Matthew 24:36 NIV)

Since they blatantly ignore the one about parading your good deeds in public and the 'turn the other cheek' they have no problem ignoring this too.


The more fervent they are about the bible the more they ignore what it actually says.
 
I view it as a way to keep the sheep in line. I first heard of the rapture in 1972. Any day now!!!!

Depending on how you want to read the mythos, rapture was first mentioned ~150CE or 1830 CE. Rapture prediction (as well as Amageddon prediction) is quite long and there were many starting 1914 and 1936. Unfortunately the site i knew which documented best (abbotey or something) does not exists anymore.

ETA:oops it DOES still exists.

http://www.abhota.info/end1.htm

ETAETA: not updated after 2011 or otherwise he could have added another page of faield rapture
 
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Depending on how you want to read the mythos, rapture was first mentioned ~150CE or 1830 CE. Rapture prediction (as well as Amageddon prediction) is quite long and there were many starting 1914 and 1936. Unfortunately the site i knew which documented best (abbotey or something) does not exists anymore.

ETA:oops it DOES still exists.

http://www.abhota.info/end1.htm

ETAETA: not updated after 2011 or otherwise he could have added another page of faield rapture

I actually knew an elderly woman who started getting pissed that not only was she NOT dying so she could go to be with her Lord and Savior, but the Rapture wasn't happening, either.
 
I can't comment on the date-babble, an Nibiru has no evidence of existence.

But, I always find it oddly refreshing when people, who are operating within some prophet-based belief system, are willing to assign a solid date to upcoming events predicted by that system. I think it is a perfect occasion to engage, in a curious and civil way, with them, and solicit the basis for their beliefs. To have a dialog with them right up to that date. To present your own views, exposing them to the value of an evidence-based belief system: gently, not as a troll.

And try to get them to seriously consider and discuss how they would react if nothing clear and solid happens on their date. If nothing else, I think it may help sway then to a 'wait and see' attitude before the date. Rather than doing anything irreparable, as some some have in the past: giving away all their assets, or killing their pets, or themselves.

I would make one exception to that. If anybody wants to give me their assets, they are more than welcome to do so. Heck, if they ask nicely, I'll even give back whatever is left after the rapture doesn't happen.
 
I would make one exception to that. If anybody wants to give me their assets, they are more than welcome to do so. Heck, if they ask nicely, I'll even give back whatever is left after the rapture doesn't happen.

Ain't giving nothing back me! Those of you who truly believe just PM me for details of where to send your house keys, bank account details e.t.c.
 
I actually knew an elderly woman who started getting pissed that not only was she NOT dying so she could go to be with her Lord and Savior, but the Rapture wasn't happening, either.

Maybe you should have rapped ure about the head and made her happy.
 
Hard to believe that the Rapture was thirty five years ago now. I think it still holds up.

 
Thanks! I've marked it off on my calendar. Although where I work, I'm not expecting a lot of absences.
 
I would make one exception to that. If anybody wants to give me their assets, they are more than welcome to do so. Heck, if they ask nicely, I'll even give back whatever is left after the rapture doesn't happen.

I like the end there. That would be a fine teaching moment.
 
Hard to believe that the Rapture was thirty five years ago now. I think it still holds up.
As an adolescent boy then I had no idea what she was singing. I only knew that whatever making sweet love was I wanted to do it with her while she sang like that.
 
Oh, goody! We haven't had a good rapture/TEOTWAWKI prediction lately. I hope this one has lots of radio shows, apocalyptic preachers shouting "the end of the world is nigh" and extra-long threads here on ISF.

Some predictions just fizzle out, and it's so disappointing. Let's party!
 
Here is an "article" from the website logosapologia which may explain the claim better than I could.

If you have ever spent any time studying Daniel’s seventy-weeks prophecy you might have been somewhat annoyed by the first seven weeks.
“Know therefore and understand, that from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem unto the Messiah the Prince shall be seven weeks, and threescore and two weeks: the street shall be built again, and the wall, even in troublous times.”(Da 9:25Open in Logos Bible Software (if available))
Frankly, it seems to just be dangling there without a purpose. Most prophecy teachers simply add the two together to make sixty-nine weeks without saying much about why it is “seven and threescore and two (62).” Well, this bothered Newton too. He explained the odd seven weeks as referring to the second coming, after a future restoration of Israel which had not yet occurred! He explained the verse in this way:
Know also and understand, that from the going forth of the commandment to cause to return and to build Jerusalem, unto the Anointed the Prince, shall be seven weeks.
The former part of the Prophecy related to the first coming of Christ, being dated to his coming as a Prophet; this being dated to his coming to be Prince or King, seems to relate to his second coming. There, the Prophet was consummate, and the most holy anointed: here, he that was anointed comes to be Prince and to reign. For Daniel’s Prophecies reach to the end of the world; and there is scarce a Prophecy in the Old Testament concerning Christ, which doth not in something or other relate to his second coming. If divers of the antients, as Irenæus, Julius Africanus, Hippolytus the martyr, and Apollinaris Bishop of Laodicea, applied the half week to the times of Antichrist; why may not we, by the same liberty of interpretation, apply the seven weeks to the time when Antichrist shall be destroyed by the brightness of Christ’s coming?
He puts the first seven in the future after the second rebuilding of Jerusalem. Jerusalem was reclaimed by Israel during the Six Days War in June of 1967. Recall that in the seventy-weeks paradigm, the “seven” is seven weeks of years which is (7 x 7) forty-nine years. T. W. Tramm explains a remarkable concurrence:
June 7, 1967 falls in the Hebrew year 5727, adding forty-nine prophetic years to this date we arrive in the Hebrew year 5776, which is 2015 on the Gregorian calendar. Interestingly, if one counts exactly forty-nine (360 day) prophetic years (17,640 days) from the June 7, 1967 date of Jerusalem’s recapture, we arrive at September 23, 2015—the Day of Atonement! Coincidence?[ii]
We verified this remarkable match but we also noted that if one counts 49 x 365 days for solar years, one lands in 2016 which corresponds nicely with historical approach of AD 756 the acceding of temporal power to the pope plus 1260 derived from Revelation 11:3Open in Logos Bible Software (if available). Although no man knows the day or hour, it is hard to ignore the remarkable preponderance of prophecy pointing to the period we have entered
 
The new date has been set for the rapture, it is now set for the 23rd Septembe this year, the basis for this claim is that the date on the 7th June 1967 is interpreted as the Jews returning to Israel and when applying the 7 sets of jubilee years (360 days = 1 Jewish year) you come to the date 23rd September 2015 (day of atonement) as the rapture. Here is a video claiming this /watch?v=UiUrevq2Ko0 (apologies, internationalskeptics will not let me post live links.)

Anyone wishing to offer any commentary on this?

Yes: why the **** would the universe care about our calendars and base 10 systems and so on ?
 
In addition it falls a bit apart when you realize that the antichrist and the beast were later associations... My understanding is that it was more a term originally associated with those "against" the Christ e.g. disbeliever (and mentionned only in John). And frankly when reading john it sounds more like he is referring to a group of people rather than specifics.

ETA: still more complicated than that but it clearly shows that it is more a later added belief rather than original. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antichrist
and the interpretation above is clearly only 1 denomination at best.
 
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Perhaps if one takes the square of the Mayan calendar divided by the hypotenuse of the Chinese calendar . . . . . . .:rolleyes:
 

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