Split From: Psychics and Missing People

WanderinWTF

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I have split these posts from the Psychics and Missing People thread.
Replying to this modbox in thread will be off topic  Posted By: Darat


has anyone heard of probability and sequence ever being used in finding a missing person
 
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has anyone heard of probability and sequence ever being used in finding a missing person

Is this a question?

I suspect that this really is meant for a new topic. Why not present your skills there and see what everyone thinks of them?
 
I'll let post #38 stand as a warning. This person just probably read "mother of missing" and didn't go on from there. I will give them the benefit of the doubt.

If they persisted in PMing me, I would report them.


i cant believe you put this are you saying that you are warning anyone that offers help in any way that you will just turn your head in the opposite direction i said that i dont want any money or anything at all i dont care about money i help people thats what i do thats all that i need you could of atleast sent me some links for someone who actually cares just to let you know i spent a lot of time reading and looking at more than 1 case when i said that your a great person i take that back now after i read what you say on your sight i thought wow shes a great person doing that for nebraska but after reading what you put here i know you didnt write those things on your sight im sure someone else did it for you and i like where it says HOW CAN I HELP? and then it only says about giving money you even say how you can take money from lots of states plus all providences of canada WTF
 
the reason i even sent a pm was cause i had just been reading for hours and if i didnt atleast to do something i wouldnt have been able to close my eyes and sleep
 
WanderinWTF said:
i cant believe you put this are you saying that you are warning anyone that offers help in any way....

Just offers of woo woo help, which is no help at all. Read the OP.

WanderinWTF said:
..and i like where it says HOW CAN I HELP? and then it only says about giving money you even say how you can take money from lots of states plus all providences of canada WTF

Simple, non-profits run on donations of both money and other services. And before you say you are offering a service, no your not.
 
i cant believe you put this are you saying that you are warning anyone that offers help in any way that you will just turn your head in the opposite direction ...(etc.. lots of words with no punctuation)

I can't believe that it would even cross your mind to criticise a person like this. How can you read a post by someone that says what it does and then write what you have done?
Something terrible happens to some familes, such as a child being stolen, and what makes matters worse than the loss, the grief, the horrible things imagination can bring to your nightmares, the exhausting hope, and the treacherous inability to fix a really bad situation, are the people who crawl out from the woodwork and force themselves into the lives of those already suffering. Total strangers come and act like old family friends and claim to be able to help, when they can't.

How dare you even contemplate anything other than practical help? Practical help means publicity for what KellyJ is trying to do, or financial assistance if you can offer it to her or any of the places setup to help families in such horrendous situations. How dare you even question this?

It is an honour that KellyJ felt that this site was worth utilising to help her in her situation, and her quest to assist families; hopefully help some from abuse by scam merchants. I am so glad in my heart to see that she has found some support and assistance. I am disgusted by your ill mannered attitude to her, and by your further aggressive response here.

I say again, how dare you?
 
How dare you even contemplate anything other than practical help? Practical help means publicity for what KellyJ is trying to do, or financial assistance if you can offer it to her or any of the places setup to help families in such horrendous situations. How dare you even question this?

It is an honour that KellyJ felt that this site was worth utilising to help her in her situation, and her quest to assist families; hopefully help some from abuse by scam merchants. I am so glad in my heart to see that she has found some support and assistance. I am disgusted by your ill mannered attitude to her, and by your further aggressive response here.

I say again, how dare you?

Good job cabby!! What's up with people who make other people's stuff all about them?
 
i cant believe you put this are you saying that you are warning anyone that offers help in any way that you will just turn your head in the opposite direction i said that i dont want any money or anything at all i dont care about money i help people thats what i do thats all that i need you could of atleast sent me some links for someone who actually cares just to let you know i spent a lot of time reading and looking at more than 1 case when i said that your a great person i take that back now after i read what you say on your sight i thought wow shes a great person doing that for nebraska but after reading what you put here i know you didnt write those things on your sight im sure someone else did it for you and i like where it says HOW CAN I HELP? and then it only says about giving money you even say how you can take money from lots of states plus all providences of canada WTF

WanderinWTF, in my opinion there are two kinds of "psychics". Those who are fake and know they are fake, and those who believe they really are psychic.

In either case, there is no evidence to support psychic phenomenon as genuine. None. This is a subject that I, and many others here, have explored to great depths.

I will give you the benefit of the doubt and work on the assumption that you are someone who really believes they have psychic ability and wishes to help someone in distress, and I will try to treat you with respect. Fair enough?

If you believe you are really psychic, then you probably allow yourself a great deal of mind wandering and daydreaming that you interpret to be visions of some importance or having association to real world events.

The sheer number of these "visions", along with highly conditioned selective recall of those which coincided with real world events in even the remotest way, has probably reinforced your belief in your psychic ability.

I am not going to try to talk you out of your belief. But I will be honest with you and tell you that my belief is that such people are sadly and seriously deluded.

KellyJ has expressed her strong opinion that psychics are of no use in locating missing people. Therefore, she and other parents of missing children resent the unwelcome and unsolicited intrusion into their lives by people claiming to have psychic powers and offering their services.

She has been crystal clear on this point.

So what in the world possessed you to do the very thing she has stated in no uncertain terms that she finds extremely offensive?

If you had honest intentions of helping and not harming, why did you do harm?

If you want to help, then please cease and desist immediately.

If you believe I am wrong on your psychic ability, the man who runs this foundation has a million dollars he would like to give to you. Seriously. Fill out the application and state exactly what it is you can do that is so special, take the test, and walk away with a million dollars that you can use to help others or yourself in any way you feel needs to be done.

Edited to add: And if you aren't in it for the money, take the test for the sake of psychics everywhere to prove this phenomenon is real and to shut people like me up.
 
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i cant believe you put this are you saying that you are warning anyone that offers help in any way that you will just turn your head in the opposite direction i said that i dont want any money or anything at all i dont care about money i help people thats what i do thats all that i need you could of atleast sent me some links for someone who actually cares just to let you know i spent a lot of time reading and looking at more than 1 case when i said that your a great person i take that back now after i read what you say on your sight i thought wow shes a great person doing that for nebraska but after reading what you put here i know you didnt write those things on your sight im sure someone else did it for you and i like where it says HOW CAN I HELP? and then it only says about giving money you even say how you can take money from lots of states plus all providences of canada WTF

WanderinWTF, period. Period, WanderingWTF. I just know you two are going to hit it off.
 
i cant believe you put this are you saying that you are warning anyone that offers help in any way that you will just turn your head in the opposite direction i said that i dont want any money or anything at all i dont care about money i help people thats what i do thats all that i need you could of atleast sent me some links for someone who actually cares just to let you know i spent a lot of time reading and looking at more than 1 case when i said that your a great person i take that back now after i read what you say on your sight i thought wow shes a great person doing that for nebraska but after reading what you put here i know you didnt write those things on your sight im sure someone else did it for you and i like where it says HOW CAN I HELP? and then it only says about giving money you even say how you can take money from lots of states plus all providences of canada WTF

Am I the only one who hears "Sabre Dance" and "Flight Of The Bumblebee" played simultaneously at 78RPM while reading this post? WanderinWTF, I don't know what to say. Actually, I do, but I don't want to be banned, so I'll leave it at that.

KellyJ, my heart goes out to you and your family. Have you thought of setting up an PayPal account for your site so people can make donations through that?

Michael
 
i cant believe you put this are you saying that you are warning anyone that offers help in any way that you will just turn your head in the opposite direction i said that i dont want any money or anything at all i dont care about money i help people thats what i do thats all that i need you could of atleast sent me some links for someone who actually cares just to let you know i spent a lot of time reading and looking at more than 1 case when i said that your a great person i take that back now after i read what you say on your sight i thought wow shes a great person doing that for nebraska but after reading what you put here i know you didnt write those things on your sight im sure someone else did it for you and i like where it says HOW CAN I HELP? and then it only says about giving money you even say how you can take money from lots of states plus all providences of canada WTF
WanderinWTF,

Whatever you believe about your own abilities, KellyJ has made clear that she is not interested in have a Psychics contact her. Why would you do that unless you were intentionally trying to offend her and the other people in the forum?
 
WanderinWTF,

Whatever you believe about your own abilities, KellyJ has made clear that she is not interested in have a Psychics contact her. Why would you do that unless you were intentionally trying to offend her and the other people in the forum?


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Kelly,

I don’t often get moved by many things but your plight and the dignity and eloquence you show in handling it are truly inspiring.



I offer up my sincerest hope that your son is found and your situation resolved.

WanderinWTF,

People here have been FAR too kind.

yes but what else would you expect from the GREATEST and most inteligent POWERFUL PEOPLE IN THE WORLD in one place
Your pathetically worded and ridiculous ramble shows what a complete semi-literate moron you are.
i know i cant write never had to really i only did things dealing with MATH when i went to school i did it so good never needed to learn how 2 write well i guess i thought that at the time writing was something i didnt need then i got older and realised man if only i knew how to put my thoughts in words

You probably do think you have some sort of
“power”.. you sound too stupid to realise dreaming and coincidences are just NORMAL.

im far from stupid i dont dream that much nowadays i wish i dreamed more i miss is so much
I would have let your inanity slide except you DARED to have a go at Kelly for casting some perceived slight on you. Kelly should have hit you with both barrels instead she treated you with FAR more respect than you deserved.
KalKalatedRisC

I have NEVER called for the banning of someone, anywhere, anytime, any forum, any topic… but you are a complete waste of space and should be removed …
im not a waste of space im just space THE SPACE BETWEEN GOOD AND EVIL
Others

My faith in this site (and most of its members) has been renewed yet again.. except for that idiot Wanderin.. the responses have been fantastic.


idiot ;p) yes they have havn't they
 
WanderinWTF,

Whatever you believe about your own abilities, KellyJ has made clear that she is not interested in have a Psychics contact her. Why would you do that unless you were intentionally trying to offend her and the other people in the forum?

i dont consider myself a psychic they make me sick they always have well maybe just the phonybalony ones ;p) when i first contacted her it felt right to offer help cant help it i have to no matter what its just me to always offer help when really i contacted her for her to help me with things i need and to help with i know she can help me better than anyone else can what i already knew and seen everyone has gotten the opportunity to see
 
Am I the only one who hears "Sabre Dance" and "Flight Of The Bumblebee" played simultaneously at 78RPM while reading this post? WanderinWTF, I don't know what to say. Actually, I do, but I don't want to be banned, so I'll leave it at that.

KellyJ, my heart goes out to you and your family. Have you thought of setting up an PayPal account for your site so people can make donations through that?

Michael
3x10exp8ms is what i was thinking Micheal pls pm me and tell me what you want to say i really want to know what you think its important to me cause just remember its never what you say but its what you never forget
 
Everyone: I.G.N.O.R.E.


you all can if you like i understand i do want you all to just know that i didnt write that i typed it but it wasnt my words that were put there i dont remember writing during it i remember wanting to reply what i would have put if i did a reply would just be why did you just post a piece from a pm that nobody can see the original but just a piece
 
A little late, but... Welcome KellyJ!

I must say, you are a class act. Coming here to speak your mind/heart on a subject so painful is inspiring (and your diplomatic handling of WTF - well said!). I'm glad someone like you is able to take a stand against the psychic scum that feeds off the grief of others. If the "skeptic community" takes a stand, we might simply come off as closed-minded wet-blankets out to prove our own superiority. You are an example - to show that these psychics are not only ineffective, but also harmful.

Though a skeptic, I don't come down hard on much of the "woo" out there - with the exception of psychic detectives and the likes of John Edward and Silvia Browne. (Must... contain... bile.....)

Keep up the good work! And I hope we see more of you.


im no psychic i only do math its probability and sequence the same method
that one person used i think its name was nastradamus except i can go back also not just forward like him
 
KellyJ,

I just want to repeat what so many here have said. Welcome, and thank you for doing what you are doing. It is a valuable service. My heart aches for the agony you must go through daily. I am full of admiration for your strength, tact and wisdom. If there is anything that I can do to help your cause, I will try to do it.

I hope to attend TAM next year, too. If you can come, I promise I'll bring you chocolate :)

WanderinWTF
Hasn't your own performance here just proven that you have no gift, and you have no idea what "help" even means? If you really want to be helpful to the world, why don't you seek out a therapist to help you figure out why you are so pathetically insecure as to seek out a person in great emotional pain and distress and try to make her pay attention to you by doing the exact thing that she has requested people NOT do? And when she told you to go away, you attack her as "not caring"??????

You are an idiot. Go away.

Meg


i didnt want to help her the way i need to help the child's case on her sight and she never asked me which one if she would have asked maybe then she would know why i did contact her because it is totally differant situation than her own and differant pertaining to who gets hurt by those quacks
 
You want to help the child? Go to your local police station. Tell them the child's name you want to "help" and tell them whatever information you think you have.

Quit posting here.
 
Good morning WanderinWTF.

i didnt want to help her the way i need to help the child's case on her sight and she never asked me which one if she would have asked maybe then she would know why i did contact her because it is totally differant situation than her own and differant pertaining to who gets hurt by those quacks

Is english your native language? Perhaps something is getting lost in the translation.
JPK
 
i didnt want to help her the way i need to help the child's case on her sight and she never asked me which one if she would have asked maybe then she would know why i did contact her because it is totally differant situation than her own and differant pertaining to who gets hurt by those quacks

Let's review what you said to KellyJ:

i figure things out sometimes it just comes to me maybe you could send me things with pictures and any information with the cases or pictures of items also like personal belongings

while i was reading about a missing child i knew right away what prob happend and as i read i was right

Predator.
 
WanderinWTF, in my opinion there are two kinds of "psychics". Those who are fake and know they are fake, and those who believe they really are psychic.

In either case, there is no evidence to support psychic phenomenon as genuine. None. This is a subject that I, and many others here, have explored to great depths.
im no psychic will you help me so i can explore i need a few things i need a printout of all the registered sex offenders in and non registered sex offenders (this is verry important)in washing and oregon from 2000 till now in this i also need the dates of those that entered prision and paroled and violation dates pls

I will give you the benefit of the doubt and work on the assumption that you are someone who really believes they have psychic ability and wishes to help someone in distress, and I will try to treat you with respect. Fair enough?
im no psychic however i know i can help everyone with any type of stress and anger and hatred pain the pain that is deep so deep its invisible to the normal persons eye its hefs its only hef now after i prove this i will add the s myself

If you believe you are really psychic, then you probably allow yourself a great deal of mind wandering and daydreaming that you interpret to be visions of some importance or having association to real world events.
you seem to be off a little i dont wander or daydream by choice visions are nothing to me i have gotten something close to visions but i wouldnt call them visions they have sounds and patterns of life conecting everything together

The sheer number of these "visions", along with highly conditioned selective recall of those which coincided with real world events in even the remotest way, has probably reinforced your belief in your psychic ability.
i dont think its possible and could be wasted when doing this this way to hard to recon to get a % confortable with would take many years maybe even lifetimes to do this so i think those visions are someone elses visions they need to be told right away hoping the right person will eventually receive it

I am not going to try to talk you out of your belief. But I will be honest with you and tell you that my belief is that such people are sadly and seriously deluded.

KellyJ has expressed her strong opinion that psychics are of no use in locating missing people. Therefore, she and other parents of missing children resent the unwelcome and unsolicited intrusion into their lives by people claiming to have psychic powers and offering their services.

its a differant situation what i need is help for a child not a parent of a mission child but a child themselves
She has been crystal clear on this point.
yes i know

So what in the world possessed you to do the very thing she has stated in no uncertain terms that she finds extremely offensive?

If you had honest intentions of helping and not harming, why did you do harm?

If you want to help, then please cease and desist immediately.




If you believe I am wrong on your psychic ability, the man who runs this foundation has a million dollars he would like to give to you. Seriously. Fill out the application and state exactly what it is you can do that is so special, take the test, and walk away with a million dollars that you can use to help others or yourself in any way you feel needs to be done.

i dont know if he actually wants to give a million away come on now would you want to give a million away i know i wouldnt maybe it was offered for he could find someone or for someone to find him maybe while having fun and laffs till it happends
Edited to add: And if you aren't in it for the money, take the test for the sake of psychics everywhere to prove this phenomenon is real and to shut people like me up.
if the time is right i might do something however i dont like the word tests and i dont see a challenge in it really i have been passing tests guessing for a long time or guess enough right for the math to even everything else out ;p) i never cared to be the smartest or the greatest but to do just enough was fine for me when it came to tests
 
i cant believe you put this are you saying that you are warning anyone that offers help in any way that you will just turn your head in the opposite direction i said that i dont want any money or anything at all i dont care about money i help people thats what i do thats all that i need you could of atleast sent me some links for someone who actually cares just to let you know i spent a lot of time reading and looking at more than 1 case when i said that your a great person i take that back now after i read what you say on your sight i thought wow shes a great person doing that for nebraska but after reading what you put here i know you didnt write those things on your sight im sure someone else did it for you and i like where it says HOW CAN I HELP? and then it only says about giving money you even say how you can take money from lots of states plus all providences of canada WTF

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Let's review what you said to KellyJ:



Predator.

there was a lot of information on it a whole lot i litterly spent hours reading of all the cases its the only one people leave meaning to things the reason i said about the pics cause when i read a diff case it wasnt up to date and i noticed something when i checked a differant page it showed what was missing
 
there was a lot of information on it a whole lot i litterly spent hours reading of all the cases its the only one people leave meaning to things the reason i said about the pics cause when i read a diff case it wasnt up to date and i noticed something when i checked a differant page it showed what was missing

There is no way this person is 25 years old. We've got a troll on our hands.

I just hope he never does a spell check. The JREF server might explode.
 
2 days ago i sold my truck today im gettin a car and takin care of this matter and gonna travel in just a few more days and did that one kramer leave here if he did i hope JR asked him 2 splienda
 
i dont know if he actually wants to give a million away come on now would you want to give a million away i know i wouldnt maybe it was offered for he could find someone or for someone to find him maybe while having fun and laffs till it happends

Mr. Randi has a worldwide reputation. The million dollars was provided by various donors, and is completely documented on this site. Randi has numerous times entered into binding legal contracts where he promised he would give away the million if the claiment could pass a simple test of psychic ability. All information about the tests is made public.

The only thing special about Randi's tests is that are not subject to interpretation and they are protected against cheating. NO ONE has passed the tests, or even come close.

My belief is that you are misinterpreting your gut feelings as psychic phenomena, and that you have nothing to offer beyond what KellyJ and the police have already done.

I think it unfortunate that so many cruel comments are being made here, but you obviously don't appreciate the magnitude of what you are doing. Try to imagine if you yourself were in such an awful situation and some mentally ill stranger kept calling you and insisting that he knew what had happened to your son, despite the fact that it was clear the stranger knew nothing and that his "information" was wrong.

I suggest that you concentrate on the million dollar prize. If it's true that you can read a book and that people nearby can tell what you have read, that is easy to test. If you pass the test, you will get the money, and a lot of respect from posters here, and then perhaps KellyJ will be willing to talk to you.

If you fail the test, you will have an opportunity to examine where you delusions came from and to consider how you may have inadverntantly harmed people like KellyJ.

Fair enough?
 
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Being new to this forum and forums in general the concept of a troll is new to me.

Is Wanderin.. completely disconnected with realilty ? Does he realize he's not saying anything?
 
Mr. Randi has a worldwide reputation. The million dollars was provided by various donors, and is completely documented on this site. Randi has numerous times entered into binding legal contracts where he promised he would give away the million if the claiment could pass a simple test of psychic ability. All information about the tests is made public.

The only thing special about Randi's tests is that are not subject to interpretation and they are protected against cheating. NO ONE has passed the tests, or even come close.

My belief is that you are misinterpreting your gut feelings as psychic phenomena, and that you have nothing to offer beyond what KellyJ and the police have already done.

I think it unfortunate that so many cruel comments are being made here, but you obviously don't appreciate the magnitude of what you are doing. Try to imagine if you yourself were in such an awful situation and some mentally ill stranger kept calling you and insisting that he knew what had happened to your son, despite the fact that it was clear the stranger knew nothing and that his "information" was wrong.

I suggest that you concentrate on the million dollar prize. If it's true that you can read a book and that people nearby can tell what you have read, that is easy to test. If you pass the test, you will get the money, and a lot of respect from posters here, and then perhaps KellyJ will be willing to talk to you.

If you fail the test, you will have an opportunity to examine where you delusions came from and to consider how you may have inadverntantly harmed people like KellyJ.

Fair enough?


ya well imagine that something happend to a child and it wasnt a stranger involved imagine their own dad or dads girlfriend now what so who is there left to help find what happend to this kid after state try then the federal what else is there who else is there i know what it is i just need to find who and where in a few days ;p)
 
I'm beginning to get angry at WanderinWTF.

These is such a good thread with alot of good info except for some rambling nonsense by Wanderin.
 
ya well imagine that something happend to a child and it wasnt a stranger involved imagine their own dad or dads girlfriend now what so who is there left to help find what happend to this kid after state try then the federal what else is there who else is there i know what it is i just need to find who and where in a few days ;p)

What has this got to do with anything? I am sure KellyJ--and the police--have considered the possibility that her son was harmed by someone he knew. I can't imagine how painful this must have been--it hurts just to type about it. Why would a complete stranger, making guesses, be able to detect this tragic situation when the police and the persons close to the missing person could not? Remember, we have yet to establish that you or anyone has any real psychic powers. In fact the evidence is strongly against it.

If you have psychic powers, prove it first! Until then, we must assume you are self-deluded and treat you harshly!
 
Also,
Everyone: I.G.N.O.R.E.

I at first missed the subtle humor in this post. Mariah used more periods in that post than someone else ever has.

I've never put anyone on ignore, but it's easy.

Click the name, View Public Profile, then a few inches down on the right it says "Add xxxxxxxxx to Your Ignore List" in white letters.

I might just have to this time.
 
I've never put anyone on ignore, but it's easy.
Click the name, View Public Profile, then a few inches down on the right it says "Add xxxxxxxxx to Your Ignore List" in white letters.
Thanks for that info, K. Yes, it was easy!
 
I've never put anyone on ignore, but it's easy.

Click the name, View Public Profile, then a few inches down on the right it says "Add xxxxxxxxx to Your Ignore List" in white letters.
This is worth repeating, in this case. Moderators can't put people on ignore, but frankly, this is a case where virtually everyone else should.
 

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