THE WASP-18b & Space Probes Mysteries

Several times it has been pointed out that he needs a protocol to handle measuring errors, and he just ignores it.

Yes. Bjarne, let me spell it out to you in a way you might understand. If you don't document how you account for various error sources, then no matter what your results show, 'we' the establishment can just dismiss your results as measurement error.

So, if you want to make an impact on the world, you need to get your act together.

Of course, I know you will never get around to actually do the measurements, just as you never got around to really publish your thesis in a reputed journal. There will always be some excuse, because you don't dare to face a possible defeat.

Hans
 
Yes. Bjarne, let me spell it out to you in a way you might understand. If you don't document how you account for various error sources, then no matter what your results show, 'we' the establishment can just dismiss your results as measurement error.

So, if you want to make an impact on the world, you need to get your act together.

Of course, I know you will never get around to actually do the measurements, just as you never got around to really publish your thesis in a reputed journal. There will always be some excuse, because you don't dare to face a possible defeat.

Hans

I would love to be eavesdropping when a reptuted journal recieves his paper!
 
A number of posts have been made that explains that light does not escape from black holes, and he just repeats his uninformed nonsense.

In this case I didn’t use the word "nonsense"

But only that there is many unanswered question, -both reading:

1.) the cause and nature of the black holes,
2.) how much space can deform inwards
3.) what light really does after entering, - this question must be answered, - unless we have a contradiction.

If you believe light do not escape, its in fact a one of the biggest problem we have, because WHAT then happens to it?
 
In this case I didn’t use the word "nonsense"
No you did not use the word "nonsense", you produced it.

1.) the cause and nature of the black holes,
Black holes are defined as bodies whose mass is so great that nothing can escape its gravity pull. In other words the cause is defined, so we know it quite well. As for the nature, there is still a lot to learn, but we know they have to intereact with the surrounding space using normal physical laws, which is why we know that Hawking radiation exists.

2.) how much space can deform inwards
I am not sure what you mean by deforming inwards, but there is a finite mass in the universe, so this should set a limit.

3.) what light really does after entering, - this question must be answered, - unless we have a contradiction.
Why?

If you believe light do not escape, its in fact a one of the biggest problem we have, because WHAT then happens to it?
It is probably simply absorbed. What is your problem? Is it that you are ignoring what you have been told that it is information that should not be lost, and not light? And some physicists see no problem if information can be lost also, only a challenge.
 
How can you then quote: “test it”
This assumption is build on the believe that space will continue to deform towards the centre of a black hole.
How can we know if there is a limit where space not can deform space any further ?
You test it by looking at the object falling into the black hole. That takes a long, long time!
The better way is to test General Relativity (the theory that predicts this) and see if it is valid. That has been done: Tests of general relativity.

I mean it’s the same question with the expansive Universe.
We have no way how we to know if there is a limit where space simple can not expand anymore and a Big Crunch begins.
That is right - all we can do is see what a theory predicting thta also predicts that is testable.

If space do not continue to curves towards infinity, - WHAT does than light then do after reaching the black hole?
IT CAN’T DISSAPEAR my friend, and this is a PROBLEM, because when it is trapped inside the black hole, WHAT is it then and what is it doing there ?
It goes into the event horizon and never comes out.
IT CAN DISSAPEAR my friend, and this is NOT a PROBLEM, because when it is trapped inside the black hole, IT IS LIGHT and IT IS TRAPPED!
 
Black holes are defined as bodies whose mass is so great that nothing can escape its gravity pull. In other words the cause is defined, so we know it quite well.

Right
But definition is not knowledge or proves.
I too believe there are mass inside a black hole, but far so much as you do.
It’s simply not necessary. Central strong deformation of space is a build in fundamental property of gravity that even makes dark matter unnecessary.

As for the nature, there is still a lot to learn, but we know they have to intereact with the surrounding space using normal physical laws,
Right

which is why we know that Hawking radiation exists.
This is only a suggestion / hypothesis.
I don't belive it's is so simple.

I am not sure what you mean by deforming inwards, but there is a finite mass in the universe, so this should set a limit.
I mean how much can space expand?
This is important to know both with regards to the expanding Universe as well as the expanding / stretching inwards in a black hole. – It’s in both cases the exact same property of space we are talking about.
And well, the answer, it’s short, - we don’t know.
But it is important to know, if we want to understand what’s happens in a black hole.

Bjarne
what light really does after entering, - this question must be answered, - unless we have a contradiction.
Steenkh
Why?
Because light contains information that can’t disappear.

You test it by looking at the object falling into the black hole. That takes a long, long time!
Crap!
It can’t be observed since visible light doesn’t escape.

It goes into the event horizon and never comes out.
So you believe there is A LOT of light inside the hole. And I mean A LOT?

IT CAN DISSAPEAR my friend, and this is NOT a PROBLEM, because when it is trapped inside the black hole, IT IS LIGHT and IT IS TRAPPED!

Ok good for you head. But tell it to Stephen Hawking & Co, - I am afraid they won’t buy it , because who will then buy the: twin universe.

Well, - I don't buy that light are trapped, - or the twin universe..
But rather that a black hole is not so strange as believed, - it's just extreme "stretched" space.
All what falls to the centre accelerates.
Since this happens from all direction there is only one escape: - Vertical…
It's a tornado principle, and also applies for all kinds of EMV
 
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Right
But definition is not knowledge or proves.
I too believe there are mass inside a black hole, but far so much as you do.
It’s simply not necessary. Central strong deformation of space is a build in fundamental property of gravity that even makes dark matter unnecessary.


Right


This is only a suggestion / hypothesis.
I don't belive it's is so simple.


I mean how much can space expand?
This is important to know both with regards to the expanding Universe as well as the expanding / stretching inwards in a black hole. – It’s in both cases the exact same property of space we are talking about.
And well, the answer, it’s short, - we don’t know.
But it is important to know, if we want to understand what’s happens in a black hole.

Because light contains information that can’t disappear.


Crap!
It can’t be observed since visible light doesn’t escape.


So you believe there is A LOT of light inside the hole. And I mean A LOT?



Ok good for you head. But tell it to Stephen Hawking & Co, - I am afraid they won’t buy it , because who will then buy the: twin universe.

Well, - I don't buy that light are trapped, - or the twin universe..
But rather that a black hole is not so strange as believed, - it's just extreme "stretched" space.
All what falls to the centre accelerates.
Since this happens from all direction there is only one escape: - Vertical…
It's a tornado principle, and also applies for all kinds of EMV

You know bugger all about black holes,or physics in general.Thanks for all the laughs,I'm out of here.
 
Right

Maybe, I am not so sure we know enough about black holes and what light does here.

And yet again the brilliant glow of your understanding shines through. Given that with the word "Right", you just agreed with my point that the jets are not light at all, but are made up of mainly nuclei and electrons, why would you then start babbling about what light does in black holes? What light does is irrelevant to the fact that the structures you point at are not, in fact, light.

Further, the great thing about jets like that is that the existence of black holes is utterly irrelevant. Matter is thrown out of accretion discs in jets normal to the plane of the disc due to some bits of physics involving gravity and angular momentum. But the important point is that the gravitational body at the centre doesn't matter in the slightest - all that is important is for it to sit there being a source of gravity. You could pretend black holes don't exist at all and just imagine a really big lump of rock in the same position, and you would still get exactly the same jets. The properties of black holes are completely irrelevant to things that never actually reaches the black hole - all that matters in that case is its gravity.

I mean Stephen Hawking had a 10 years headache trying to understanding how light can ""disappear""

As already noted by others, no he didn't.

There are to my opinion: to many maybe.

As has been demonstrated numerous times here, your opinion on mattes of physics are utterly irrelevant.

Maybe we don’t know enough,

No, you don't know enough. This is why we keep telling you to go and educate yourself instead of just spouting nonsense here.

and maybe black holes are not so strange.

Actually, black holes really aren't that strange at all. In fact, they don't even require relativity, quantum physics, or anything more advanced that Newton. All you need is a finite speed of light, and black holes are an inevitable logical consequence. Throwing in relativity and quantum physics can generate behaviour that may seem counter-intuitive, but that happens in all kinds of areas and not just with black holes. In fact, in many ways relativity actually makes black holes act in a much more common sense manner, since a Newtonian black hole has some interesting problems of its own.

Well if it was on TV it must be true.
Of course
:eye-poppi
 
In this case I didn’t use the word "nonsense"

But only that there is many unanswered question, -both reading:

1.) the cause and nature of the black holes,
2.) how much space can deform inwards
3.) what light really does after entering, - this question must be answered, - unless we have a contradiction.
Some questions have no answers, isn't that grand?

I think it is.
If you believe light do not escape, its in fact a one of the biggest problem we have, because WHAT then happens to it?

It stays in the area of the black hole, it is there, just as another form of energy. It is still there.
 
Because light contains information that can’t disappear.
The information does not really disappear. It just cannot be detected.
There are indications that the black hole information paradox may be resolved.

Crap!
It can’t be observed since visible light doesn’t escape.
Crap! I forgot that you cannot read.
We are talking about light from an object falling into the balck hole, i.e. falling toward the event horizon from the outside.

Any light (visible or not) from inside the event horizon cannot be seen because it cannot light doesn’t escape.

So you believe there is A LOT of light inside the hole. And I mean A LOT?
There is A LOT of light inside the hole. And I mean A LOT!

Ok good for you head. But tell it to Stephen Hawking & Co, - I am afraid they won’t buy it , because who will then buy the: twin universe.
My head is good.
Your head is not - Hawking radiation is not light escaping from a black hole.
One solution to the information paradox is that quantum fluctuations in the event horizon allows information to escape if a black hole evaporates via Hawking radiation.

I guess the "twin universe" is the speculation that information in a black hole escapes to another universe. That does not seem likely to me either.

The twin universe is not for sale :D! But I can rent you a well-used D-brane :D.

Well, - I don't buy that light are trapped, - or the twin universe..
But rather that a black hole is not so strange as believed, - it's just extreme "stretched" space.
All what falls to the centre accelerates.
Since this happens from all direction there is only one escape: - Vertical…
It's a tornado principle, and also applies for all kinds of EMV
There is no escape direction. Light going vertically from the center of a black hole never passes the event horizon.

You are nuts if you think that a black hole is anything to do with stretched or contracted space: Curved space is not contracted space.

If someone were so insane to think that then a black hole would still be just as strange. All they would do is replace the strangeness of curved space with the equivalent strangeness of stretched space.
 
And yet again the brilliant glow of your understanding shines through. Given that with the word "Right", you just agreed with my point that the jets are not light at all, but are made up of mainly nuclei and electrons,

It’s also EM valves. These can even reach other galaxies and be dangerous to those there maybe lives there…

why would you then start babbling about what light does in black holes?
I have the same right to believe, - as you have, as Stephen Hawking & Co have and as well as everybody else..

What light does is irrelevant to the fact that the structures you point at are not, in fact, light.
Right
When lights is affected by extremely stretches space, light too will stretch, and hence change frequencym and you can't see it.

Further, the great thing about jets like that is that the existence of black holes is utterly irrelevant. Matter is thrown out of accretion discs in jets normal to the plane of the disc due to some bits of physics involving gravity and angular momentum. But the important point is that the gravitational body at the centre doesn't matter in the slightest - all that is important is for it to sit there being a source of gravity. You could pretend black holes don't exist at all and just imagine a really big lump of rock in the same position, and you would still get exactly the same jets. The properties of black holes are completely irrelevant to things that never actually reaches the black hole - all that matters in that case is its gravity.
The cause of the jest is not known, there are only hypothesis.
Once again all what I claims (not what I mention I believe, but what I claims) is all build on consequences of the same innocent and simple assumption that: matter contracts space
This simple assumption (as mentioned many times) also means: that if matter moves spaces do as well.
This is not a totally blind consequence but already well supported by the fact that we already know that something’s happens with space when matter moves.
Normally we call the result of that: a magnetic field.
I call this (fundamentally) space in motion. (SW)
This is what a magnetism really field is.

Therefore, if matter falls into a black holes, space will follows that matter, and hence space will “spin” into the black hole as well.

A “spinning magnetic field” pointing towards the black hole is born.
This also mean that matter will be stronger attracted because of the magnetic field, and hence matter will speed up.

If matter speed up the spinning magnetic field will be stronger.
It’s a self self-perpetuating process, and yes this magnetic field is pointing towards the centre in the black hole. (not because I want it, but because it must)

And as mentioned this is not something I believe, but a simple “facts” if it is correct that matter and space is connected.

You already know that space and matter is connected, so I am not completely alone far out On Jens Peter Jensen ploughed field.

Remember if Andromeda had an active black hole pointing to us, the jet could reach us with deadly effect. We are talking about a huge force.

Bjarne
I mean Stephen Hawking had a 10 years headache trying to understanding how light can ""disappear""
RC
As already noted by others, no he didn't
I mean off course the information light contains .
But well, this isn’t my business, but so far I know Stephen hawking invented the “twin Universe” of that reason.
http://www.thefreelibrary.com/Infor...ther+data+disappear+down+black...-a0123322418

Actually, black holes really aren't that strange at all. In fact, they don't even require relativity, quantum physics, or anything more advanced that Newton. All you need is a finite speed of light, and black holes are an inevitable logical consequence. Throwing in relativity and quantum physics can generate behaviour that may seem counter-intuitive, but that happens in all kinds of areas and not just with black holes. In fact, in many ways relativity actually makes black holes act in a much more common sense manner, since a Newtonian black hole has some interesting problems of its own.
But since we do not know how much space can stretch / deform this is really a dead end and a BIG problem.
If space continues to deform towards infinity, Stephen Hawking could be right, and things could be very strange. - (But I don’t believe so).

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Because this (in the end) is a dead end, from a certain point we only have our imagination left to support us what really going on in a black hole.
I claims that the jet must be caused by the black hole.

I also believe that there is a limit for how much space can stretch, and hence that conditions are not as extreme as for example Stephen Hawking believes.

It’s to my opinion an enormously powerful magnetic field driving by invisible matter curling inside the event horizon / black hole.
In this case I believe in “dark matter” - but build on know elementary particles. We can’t see this because space is stretching so much that visible light can’t exist.

Fundamentally black hole is the result of that matter of a galaxy consumes space, the shape of is not ball shaped, but rather funnel shaped.
Orbiting particles give the black hole much stronger attracting force. Spinning space is dragged into the hole.

I also believe that matter can escape, also after reaching the event horizon.

Remember Einstein had a problem to accept the nature of a flexible space.

We are talking about light from an object falling into the black hole, i.e.
Right, but an object doesn’t fall slower because of time dilation (seen from a outside observer). This is only based on believes.
Space too stretches (for sure) . The way we define 1 meter will stretch too, so the fall towards a black hole will from yours perception (outside the hole) appears completely normal.
The cause of the Mercury orbit anomaly is simply misunderstood, and this leads to a lot more misunderstandings or failure to understand for example; space probes and planets affected by “unknown forces” and a much more.

There is A LOT of light inside the hole. And I mean A LOT
Maybe. If so light from billion of years.
If so it’s is stretching from infrared to radio valves.
But to claim this you must know a lot more.
Especially
  • how much can space deform / stretch. ?
  • what causes a black hole?
  • how much is space affected ?
Can you tell us that ?

Hawking radiation is not light escaping from a black hole.
I did not say that.
And I do not believe the hypothesis either.

One solution to the information paradox is that quantum fluctuations in the event horizon allows information to escape if a black hole evaporates via Hawking radiation.
Maybe, - but only speculation

The twin universe is not for sale
Good I also think a cow is a better investment.

You are nuts if you think that a black hole is anything to do with stretched or contracted space
Carefully where you pee, my first middle name is Measurement. And my second middle name is Headwind.
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The strength of a black hole is simply depending on how much space can stretch / deform, -and how much it actually does.
We do not know that, or even the cause of it, and hence we are all only speculating of what happens inside of it..

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It’s also EM valves. These can even reach other galaxies and be dangerous to those there maybe lives there…

Rather unlikely.

I have the same right to believe, - as you have, as Stephen Hawking & Co have and as well as everybody else..

So you admit that all you talk about is simply personal belief?


Right
When lights is affected by extremely stretches space, light too will stretch, and hence change frequencym and you can't see it.

Are you imagining that if light is outside the visual spectrum, then we cannot observe it? (Then pray tell, how do you think yout TV remote functions)

The cause of the jest is not known, there are only hypothesis.
Once again all what I claims (not what I mention I believe, but what I claims) is all build on consequences of the same innocent and simple assumption that: matter contracts space
This simple assumption (as mentioned many times) also means: that if matter moves spaces do as well.

However, observation shows that not to be the case.

This is not a totally blind consequence but already well supported by the fact that we already know that something’s happens with space when matter moves.
Normally we call the result of that: a magnetic field.

No. A magnetic field is something different.

Therefore, if matter falls into a black holes, space will follows that matter, and hence space will “spin” into the black hole as well.

No. The thermodynamics won't function. (Hint: Falling space will loose energy. Where does it go?)

And as mentioned this is not something I believe, but a simple “facts” if it is correct that matter and space is connected.

No, not even a necessary consequence of that.

Remember if Andromeda had an active black hole pointing to us, the jet could reach us with dealy effect. We are talking about a huge force.

What ARE you talking about?

I mean off course the information light contains .
But well, this isn’t my business, but so far I know Stephen hawking invented the “twin Universe” of that reason.

Even assuming the information cannot be lost, so what? What prevents it from staying in the black hole?

Hans
 
Bjarne
It’s also EM valves. These can even reach other galaxies and be dangerous to those there maybe lives there…
Hans
Rather unlikely.
Bjarne
It's a Fact

Are you imagining that if light is outside the visual spectrum, then we cannot observe it? (Then pray tell, how do you think yout TV remote functions)
We can measure all kinds of EM valves from the event horizon. But none of these are carrying a visitcard telling if some escape from deeper inside.

Bjarne
Once again all what I claims (not what I mention I believe, but what I claims) is all build on consequences of the same innocent and simple assumption that: matter contracts space
This simple assumption (as mentioned many times) also means: that if matter moves spaces do as well.
Hans
However, observation shows that not to be the case.
If so you must be the first to ask what is the underlying cause of a magnetic field then ?
WHAT is observed my friend?

No. A magnetic field is something different.
It’s not.

Bjarne
Therefore, if matter falls into a black holes, space will follows that matter, and hence space will “spin” into the black hole as well.
Hans
No. The thermodynamics won't function. (Hint: Falling space will loose energy. Where does it go?)
It's not ”falling space” but spinning space.
The force that drive is already answered.
Its invisible fast orbiting matter ( particles inside the black hole.) this must set space in spin, and a strong magnetic field / jet is born.

What ARE you talking about?
That we KNOW that some jet hits other galaxies.

Even assuming the information cannot be lost, so what? What prevents it from staying in the black hole?
That space not deforms so much as we believes.
WE DON’T KNOW.
 
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It's a Fact
Yes, but no galaxy with its jet pointing directly at us is close enough to do damage. Such galaxies are called blazars, by the way:
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We can measure all kinds of EM valves from the event horizon. But none of these are carrying a visitcard telling if some escape from deeper inside.
They do not escape, or the black hole would not be a black hole. As I said, there are other singularities that do not have event horizons.

If so you must be the first to ask what is the underlying cause of a magnetic field then ?
Magnetic fields are very well understood. And it is certainly not moving space that is the cause. A bar magnet has a magnetic field even though it is not moving.
 
I mean off course the information light contains .
But well, this isn’t my business, but so far I know Stephen hawking invented the “twin Universe” of that reason.
http://www.thefreelibrary.com/Infor...ther+data+disappear+down+black...-a0123322418
Stephen Hawking did not invent any "twin universe". His theory is that the information comes back into this universe via quantum fluctuations of the event horizon.

But since we do not know how much space can stretch / deform this is really a dead end and a BIG problem.
The ignorance continues:
We know how much space can stretch / deform because
  • We measure the stretching due the the universe expanding.
  • We measure the gavitational effect of space feforming (curving). That is general realivity.
If space continues to deform towards infinity, Stephen Hawking could be right, and things could be very strange. - (But I don’t believe so).

http://www.redorbit.com/modules/reflib/article_images/6_3e166ea744352dc86330d77d6feb4abd.jpg
You really do not understand what the picture is representing. It is the galactic jets from the accrual disk around a black hole.

Because this (in the end) is a dead end, from a certain point we only have our imagination left to support us what really going on in a black hole.
I claims that the jet must be caused by the black hole.
The galactic jet must be caused by the black hole - the black hole's gravity. The source of the galactic jet is the accrual disk. Similar jets are seen on a smaller scale around neutron stars and stellar back holes.

I also believe that there is a limit for how much space can stretch, and hence that conditions are not as extreme as for example Stephen Hawking believes.
Then you are wrong: Black holes are described by curving space.
The conditions are as extreme as the majority of scientists believe from the evidence that has been observed.

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The fatal flaws and basic ignorance in Bjarne's ideas in his two threads include

The fatal flaws and basic ignorance in Bjarne's ideas in his two threads include:
  1. "Bended space is Contracted Space"
    Curved space is not contracted space
    First Asked 11 November 2009
  2. Physical quantities can be arbitrarily assigned units of measurement, e.g. an equation that returns numbers (no units) can be given units of m/s^2 or coulombs or kilograms just because Bjarne wants it to return acceleration or charge or mass. He ignorantly gives the Lorentz factor - 1 (a number) the units or acceleration.
  3. Anything Bjarne states is right even if there is experimental evidence that shows that it is wrong.
  4. Energy is not conserved in Bjarne's universe!
    First asked 26 November 2009
  5. Can Bjarne understand that the force of gravity is not constant within a solid sphere?
    First asked 26 October 2009
  6. Can Bjarne understand the physics behind orbital resonances?
    First asked 3 December 2009
    So far the answer is no :eye-poppi!
  7. Does Bjarne understand orbital mechanics?
    First asked 3 December 2009.
    So far the answer is no :eye-poppi!
  8. Can Bjarne understand that energy is not a force and cannot "equalize" a force?
    First asked 9 December 2009.


    You can expend energy to create a force to equalize a force as a hovering helicopter does. But the simple facts are:
    • Forces are vectors but energy is a number.
    • The SI units of force are Newtons but the SI units of energy is Joules.
  9. Bjarne asks what a particle is!
  10. His simplistic knowledge of physis is betrayed by his delusion that since the force of gravity varies as 1/r^2 (e.g. a factor of 4 when r doubles) then the "speed factor “should” hence have been factor 4 as well" (plust other silly previous posts).
    The Basics of Space Flight: Circular Orbital Motion shows clearly that the mean orbital speed of objects should vary that the inverse of the square root of r. The fact that objects actually act like this in the real universe shocks Bjarne!
  11. More of Bjarne's ignorance of simple physics (circular motion).
  12. Bjarne asks "( What is ”radian” ? – 1 orbit)"
  13. Bjarne does not understand that gravitational time dialation has been measured and matches GR. It is not "guessing".
  14. Bjarne's ignorance of GR
  15. Bjarne's ignorance of the electromagnetic spectrum and geometry
  16. Bjarne's delusion that black holes are a result of stretching space.
    (one post displaying so, so much ignorance :eye-poppi !)
  17. Bjarne's delusion that galactic jets are emitted from within black holes.
    (one post displaying so, so much ignorance :eye-poppi !)
And the questions he he cannot answer (basically about units of measurement):
 
Yes, but no galaxy with its jet pointing directly at us is close enough to do damage. Such galaxies are called blazars, by the way:
You know Andromeda is pretty close, approaching, and will collide?
A black hole can suddenly be active. We could be a victim sooner or later.

They do not escape, or the black hole would not be a black hole. As I said, there are other singularities that do not have event horizons.
How can we know?

Magnetic fields are very well understood. And it is certainly not moving space that is the cause. A bar magnet has a magnetic field even though it is not moving.
It's also well understood what Jeppe on the hill drinks, but now why he drinks.
How do you believe a magnetic field can reach though space, - if not space also is involved in the attracting process ?
 
You know Andromeda is pretty close, approaching, and will collide?
Everyone knows that Andromeda is pretty close, approaching, and will collide in a few billion years. That will have little effect on the Solar System since there is a lot of space between stars.
Ony an idiot would think that the Andromeda galaxy is a black hole.

A black hole can suddenly be active. We could be a victim sooner or later.
A black hole can suddenly be active. It would have no effect on the Solar System unless we were very, very unlucky (se below).

ETA:
We do have an example of a galactic jet hitting another galaxy - see this blog entry: Taste my death ray, 3C321!

How can we know?
We know because we look at black holes and only see radiation from their accrual disks.
 
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You know Andromeda is pretty close, approaching, and will collide?
Possibly, but we and the Earth will be long gone before that happens, and the problem for us will not be the black hole in M31 but the increased formation of new massive stars that will result.

A black hole can suddenly be active. We could be a victim sooner or later.
Indeed, but there are far greater dangers in the universe for us. If a nearby massive star goes supernova (and there are several contenders) we are all toast.

How can we know?
We know because black holes conform to the laws of nature. We have not yet observed anything that says otherwise.

How do you believe a magnetic field can reach though space, - if not space also is involved in the attracting process ?
I can also reach through space, and yet I do not assume that space itself is involved in the process.
 

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