THE WASP-18b & Space Probes Mysteries

Bjarne said:
OK my friend.
Let me now try to make it a little clearer.
Let’s say there once were 2 crusty bolls in you house. But you have eat both loong ago. Now it should be zero.
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There are no crusty rolls.
There are no stars falling into black holes in the article.
There is matter being torn from stars that is falling into black holes. Entire stars rarely if ever get eaten by black holes.

Bjarne said:
A similar mystery we have with a galaxy.
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There is no mystery with a galaxy.

Bjarne said:
This is the point with the article, also even though the article still haven’t all the answers.
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This is the point with the article - we now have a better understanding how how black holes consume gas from their accretion discs.
Bjarne said:
For Miller and his colleagues this discovery represents the first step in understanding how black holes grow. ”
We are certainly not reached the end yet," points out Miller.
There is still much work ahead of us."

Did you notice the 2 magic words, quote: “first step”.
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I did notice the 2 magic words, quote: “first step”.
It was the first step in understanding how the outward motion of as (a wind) caused by magnetic fields in the accretion disc accounts for the angular momentum of gas from the accretion disc that falls into the black hole.
Miller and other have published several more papers since 2006 on the same subject.

Bjarne said:
The model fit!
To prove the theory, researchers used data from Chandra for a specified wind around a black hole in our own galaxy. These data are compared with the computer models of a hypothetical magnetic-wind.
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I read that too.

Bjarne said:
Also notice that a “hypothetical magnetic-wind” has been invented.
I call this space wind, caused by space in motion.
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Only an idiot would call this your impossible space wind.

It is the force of the magnetic fields in the accretion disc that is moving gas outwards with the known laws of physic.

Bjarne said:
Dark matter in a galaxy is a dark unnecessary joke.
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Your ignorance of the evidence for the existence of dark matter is a dark unnecessary joke.
 
I don't think I've ever seen anyone miss the point as much as Bjarne has with this article. Don't they teach reading comprehension in Denmark? Or did Bjarne just fail that class as well as physics?

And it seems we're back to crusty rolls again. This thread is a lesson in futility.

Bjarne said:
Also notice that a “hypothetical magnetic-wind” has been invented.
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It's a hypothesis - an educated guess made by a scientist to be tested against experimental data. That's how science works.

Yes the hypothetical magnetic-wind is a fact, as well as the (“friction”) that in fact just is resistance against motion, goes nicely hand in hand with my understanding.
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The point of the article is that several models for that friction were tested against the data from Chandra. Each model was different. That is, the frictional forces caused were different in each hypothesis. Each of these different frictional forces produce different properties in the accretion disc that Chandra has measured. So, we can determine which model of the friction is closest to reality by which made the best prediction.
The predictions based on a magnetic friction are VERY different to your general resistance against all motion. Hence, your idea has been rejected outright by the very article you keep citing.

Read that last sentence again. It's important.
 
ArcturusA said:
I don't think I've ever seen anyone miss the point as much as Bjarne has with this article. Don't they teach reading comprehension in Denmark? Or did Bjarne just fail that class as well as physics?
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Fortunately, Bjarne is not representative of Danes, but of course we have our share of them. I don't know which classes he failed, but ..... :rolleyes:

And it seems we're back to crusty rolls again. This thread is a lesson in futility.
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Exactly. Through all my dealings with Bjarne, he hasn't budged a millimeter.

Hans
 
I did not eat them, then it must be the pixies!
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Yehh or maybe temporary in the parrallel Universe.
And who know maybe also the higgs are hidding there.
I mean only to tease us....
 
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Bjarne said:
Yehh or maybe temporary in the parrallel Universe.
And who know maybe also the higgs are hidding there.
I mean only to tease us....
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A little more Gollum language, and you'll be on par with a poster named Kumar.

Hans :rolleyes:
 
In my list of the fatal flaws and basic ignorance in Bjarne's ideas in his two (now three) threads The first and dumbest is
Physical quantities can be arbitrarily assigned units of measurement, e.g. an equation that returns numbers (no units) can be given units of m/s^2 or coulombs or kilograms just because Bjarne wants it to return acceleration or charge or mass. He ignorantly gives the Lorentz factor - 1 (a number) the units or acceleration.
Does Bjarne know basic physics (unit-less quantities cannot be arbitrarily assigned units)
First asked 23 October 2009
So far the answer is no :eye-poppi!
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He has attempted an answer in his new thread, i.e. the Lorentz factor - 1 has units because it has c and speed in it.
Here is a link to my reply to his post showing how ignorant that statement makes him look.

What is astounding is that he does not realize that statement is especially ignorant: with only speeds in the equation, its units can only be none or powers of speed. Acceleration is not a power of speed like m2/s2.

The answer continues to be no :jaw-dropp !
 
Bjarne said:
In my list of fatals flows

http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showpost.php?p=5576375&postcount=72
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The answers to the list is mostly "I do know" together with a couple of "Nobody knows" and a few "Gibberish".

That list just displays your ignorance of most of science, especially:
  • General relativity (it does resolve the Mercurcy orbit problem).
  • Special relativity (the speed of light is a limit).
  • Newtonian mechanics (inertia).
  • Geology (ice age)
  • Quantum mechanics (virtual particles).
  • Magnetism.
  • The observational evidence for dark matter.
  • etc.
It looks like the answer to
Reality Check said:
In my list of the fatal flaws and basic ignorance in Bjarne's ideas in his two (now three) threads The first and dumbest is
Physical quantities can be arbitrarily assigned units of measurement, e.g. an equation that returns numbers (no units) can be given units of m/s^2 or coulombs or kilograms just because Bjarne wants it to return acceleration or charge or mass. He ignorantly gives the Lorentz factor - 1 (a number) the units or acceleration.
Does Bjarne know basic physics (unit-less quantities cannot be arbitrarily assigned units)
First asked 23 October 2009
So far the answer is no :eye-poppi!
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He has attempted an answer in his new thread, i.e. the Lorentz factor - 1 has units because it has c and speed in it.
Here is a link to my reply to his post showing how ignorant that statement makes him look.

What is astounding is that he does not realize that statement is especially ignorant: with only speeds in the equation, its units can only be none or powers of speed. Acceleration is not a power of speed like m2/s2.

The answer continues to be no :jaw-dropp !
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continues to be no :jaw-dropp.
 
The fatal flaws and basic ignorance in Bjarne's ideas in his two gravity threads

The fatal flaws and basic ignorance in Bjarne's ideas in his two threads about gravity include:
  1. "Bended space is Contracted Space"
    Curved space is not contracted space
    First Asked 11 November 2009
  2. Physical quantities can be arbitrarily assigned units of measurement, e.g. an equation that returns numbers (no units) can be given units of m/s^2 or coulombs or kilograms just because Bjarne wants it to return acceleration or charge or mass. He ignorantly gives the Lorentz factor - 1 (a number) the units or acceleration.
  3. Anything Bjarne states is right even if there is experimental evidence that shows that it is wrong.
  4. Energy is not conserved in Bjarne's universe!
    First asked 26 November 2009
  5. Can Bjarne understand that the force of gravity is not constant within a solid sphere?
    First asked 26 October 2009
  6. Can Bjarne understand the physics behind orbital resonances?
    First asked 3 December 2009
    So far the answer is no :eye-poppi!
  7. Does Bjarne understand orbital mechanics?
    First asked 3 December 2009.
    So far the answer is no :eye-poppi!
  8. Can Bjarne understand that energy is not a force and cannot "equalize" a force?

    First asked 9 December 2009. You can expend energy to create a force to equalize a force as a hovering helicopter does. But the simple facts are:
    • Forces are vectors but energy is a number.
    • The SI units of force are Newtons but the SI units of energy is Joules.
  9. Bjarne asks what a particle is!
  10. His simplistic knowledge of physis is betrayed by his delusion that since the force of gravity varies as 1/r^2 (e.g. a factor of 4 when r doubles) then the "speed factor “should” hence have been factor 4 as well" (plust other silly previous posts).
    The Basics of Space Flight: Circular Orbital Motion shows clearly that the mean orbital speed of objects should vary that the inverse of the square root of r. The fact that objects actually act like this in the real universe shocks Bjarne!
  11. More of Bjarne's ignorance of simple physics (circular motion).
  12. Bjarne asks "( What is ”radian” ? – 1 orbit)"
  13. Bjarne does not understand that gravitational time dialation has been measured and matches GR. It is not "guessing".
  14. Bjarne's ignorance of GR
  15. Bjarne's ignorance of the electromagnetic spectrum and geometry
  16. Bjarne's delusion that black holes are a result of stretching space.
    (one post displaying so, so much ignorance :eye-poppi !)
  17. Bjarne's delusion that galactic jets are emitted from within black holes.
    (one post displaying so, so much ignorance :eye-poppi !)
And the questions he he cannot answer (basically about units of measurement):
 
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The fatal flaws and basic ignorance of RC's “knowledge” reveals he have much more to lean & understand:

  1. RC doesn’t know that the so called “Curvature of Space” - could in fact mean; "Stretching Space” , - and that this property could very well be completely identical with the expanding /stretching space.
  2. RC doesn’t know how matter causes the curvature off space
  3. RC doesn’t know what causes ADG
  4. RC doesn’t know the true nature of the expansive space
  5. RC doesn’t know what kind of matter the so called dark matter really is.
  6. RC doesn’t know why people down under doesn’t fall of the Earth (except; because of the property: mass-attraction).
  7. RC doesn’t know what causes mass-attraction or what it really is, or what it really have with "gravity" (curved sapce) to do...
  8. RC doesn’t know how exactly matter and space are connected
  9. RC doesn’t know how matter can affect space billion of km away from it self.
  10. RC doesn’t know why a grain of sand affects the whole Universe.
  11. RC doesn’t know the underlying cause of magnetism
  12. RC doesn’t know if there are any similarities between magnetism and gravity.
  13. RC doesn’t know the cause of the Sun magnetic field
  14. RC doesn’t know why the MF of the Earth is coincident with the temperature variation, and he and million of others prefer to ignore it.
  15. RC doesn’t know when the next age will start, or if there at all will come one more
  16. RC doesn’t know why the Sun right now is slowing downs its activity.
  17. RC doesn’t know why elementary interacts / exchange a virtual particle
  18. RC doesn’t know why spin up and down is “connected” and what that has with a “virtual particle to do”
  19. RC doesn’t know why some space probes decelerate and other accelerate
  20. RC doesn’t know why many planets not are where these “should” be
  21. RC doesn’t how it is possible that Jupiter’s atmosphere must have come from a cooler place.
  22. RC doesn’t know that there is coincidence between stars rotation and distance to the planets, or why.
  23. RC doesn’t know how the Solar system was created; - the old model is full of problem.
  24. RC doesn’t know what energy drives hurricanes for example on Jupiter and Neptune.
  25. RC doesn’t know that so soon time change due to gravity, the yardstick must change too, otherwise the law of nature will not be the same everywhere.
  26. RC doesn’t know that because of that the yardstick also changes when times does, the Mercury orbit anomaly is not solved. – It can’t be.
  27. RC doesn’t know what really causes resistance against motion, - except he know the word that express that (“Erspillten Ladenburmer or Intertia”)
  28. RC doesn’t know any logical reason to why, resistance against motion suddenly “vups” should disappear out in the blue, when constant speed is reached.
  29. RC doesn’t know how to calculate the “negative velocity” due to the resistance of motion, (and hence of cause not able to judge whether any calculation are right or wrong).
  30. RC doesn’t know why the most of all stars are to fast or too slow (according to Keplerian orbits) – (except he believe in the fanatic brain washed & mass hypnotic creeds : dark matter)
  31. RC doesn’t know that stars central in a galaxy “falls from the sky” – they “should” not do so.
  32. RC doesn’t know if space close around us expand or not or how much compared to the rest of the universe. RC believe it not expands, but he don’t know why he believe so, except he can not see it happen.
  33. RC doesn’t know, and can not calculate exactly where the (alleged) borders are where space expands / not expand. (Properly because such do not exist).
  34. RC doesn’t know if the expanding Universe really is accelerating, since he haven’t understood almost anything regarding this question, - for example so long he can not calculate the “borders" mentioned above.
  35. RC doesn’t know why black holes have force/sizes proportional with the masses of galaxies where the black holes are found... and amazingly RC still pretend we know everything about the relation matter / space, and hence that we really have understood the central nature of gravity....(!).

And the list is growing.

How can RC, judge what space & matter does or not does, - or how nature really is connected or not connected ?

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Bjarne said:
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The fatal flaws and basic ignorance of RC's “knowledge” reveals he have much more to lean & understand:
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As I already answered:
Reality Check said:
The answers to the list is mostly "I do know" together with a couple of "Nobody knows" and a few "Gibberish".


That list just displays your ignorance of most of science, especially:
  • General relativity (it does resolve the Mercury orbit problem).
  • Special relativity (the speed of light is a limit).
  • Newtonian mechanics (inertia).
  • Geology (ice age)
  • Quantum mechanics (virtual particles).
  • Magnetism.
  • The observational evidence for dark matter.
  • etc.
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Of course the real answer is:
How can Bjarne, judge what space & matter does or not does, - or how nature really is connected or not connected, when Bjarne is ignorant of the basics, e.g. Does Bjarne know basic physics (unit-less quantities cannot be arbitrarily assigned units) ?

But since you cannot read here are the actual answers to your inane questions. Lots of links to Wikipedia (sorry about that).
  1. Curved space is not contracted space
  2. I do know (General relativity).
  3. I do know (gravity)
  4. I do know (General relativity).
  5. No one knows - they just know what the properties of dark mater are (it is dark and matter!)
  6. I do know (gravity)
  7. I do know (gravity)
  8. I do know (General relativity)
  9. I do know (forces)
  10. I do know (forces)
  11. I do know (electromagnetism)
  12. I do know - classically both are inverse square laws.
  13. Sun's magnetic field.
  14. I know that the MF of the Earth is not coincident with the temperature variation.
    • There are variations in the MF over a scale of 100's of years that are not followed by global temperatures.
    • 10,000 years ago there was a big increase in MF strength that had no effect at all on temperature.
  15. No one knows when but there will be more ice ages.
  16. That is wrong. The Sun is currently increasing its activity with more sunspots appearing.
  17. I do know (Virtual particle).
  18. Spin up and spin down is not "connected". They are separate states of a particle with spin, e.g. an electron has a spin of 1/2.
  19. No one knows (not even you).
  20. Gibberish. There is nothing strange about finding gas giants close to stars when you use a detection technique that can only find big planets close to stars.
  21. Citation needed.
  22. I do know - conservation of angular momentum.
  23. I do know - Formation and evolution of the Solar System
  24. I do know - Jupiter, Neptune (rotation + internal heat)
  25. I do know that General relativity includes that the laws of physics must be the same in all frames of reference ("law of nature will not be the same everywhere"). That is why it is expressed in terms of tensors not the simpler math you see in high school. Add in the equivalence principle and you get time dilation in a gravity field and that the "yardstick" changes.
  26. I do know that because the yardstick also changes when times does, the "Mercury orbit anomaly" is solved. General relativity matches the observations of the perihelion precession of Mercury.
  27. I do know - resistance against motion does not exist. Resistance against changes in motion does exist - inertia.
  28. I do know - resistance against motion does not exist.
  29. I do know - there is no resistance of motion. If you are thinking of your silly "kinetic resistance" then that idea merely shows your ignorance
  30. I do know the observational evidence for dark matter.
  31. I do know that there is no reason stopping stars from falling into the super-massive black holes in the center of galaxies.
  32. I do know that space around us does expand. The definition of the expansion of space-time means that the entire universe expands.
  33. There are no "borders are where space expands / not expand".
  34. I do know that the expansion rate of the universe is measured to be increasing - Dark energy is the label given to the cause for this.
  35. I do know that the relationship between the size of super-massive black holes and their galaxies has nothing to do with your silly ideas. It does suggest that the super-massive black holes formed first and then the galaxies formed around them.
 
Bjarne said:
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The fatal flaws and basic ignorance of RC's “knowledge” reveals he have much more to lean & understand:

  1. RC doesn’t know that the so called “Curvature of Space” - could in fact mean; "Stretching Space” , - and that this property could very well be completely identical with the expanding /stretching space.
  2. RC doesn’t know how matter causes the curvature off space
  3. RC doesn’t know what causes ADG
  4. RC doesn’t know the true nature of the expansive space
  5. RC doesn’t know what kind of matter the so called dark matter really is.
  6. RC doesn’t know why people down under doesn’t fall of the Earth (except; because of the property: mass-attraction).
  7. RC doesn’t know what causes mass-attraction or what it really is, or what it really have with "gravity" (curved sapce) to do...
  8. RC doesn’t know how exactly matter and space are connected
  9. RC doesn’t know how matter can affect space billion of km away from it self.
  10. RC doesn’t know why a grain of sand affects the whole Universe.
  11. RC doesn’t know the underlying cause of magnetism
  12. RC doesn’t know if there are any similarities between magnetism and gravity.
  13. RC doesn’t know the cause of the Sun magnetic field
  14. RC doesn’t know why the MF of the Earth is coincident with the temperature variation, and he and million of others prefer to ignore it.
  15. RC doesn’t know when the next age will start, or if there at all will come one more
  16. RC doesn’t know why the Sun right now is slowing downs its activity.
  17. RC doesn’t know why elementary interacts / exchange a virtual particle
  18. RC doesn’t know why spin up and down is “connected” and what that has with a “virtual particle to do”
  19. RC doesn’t know why some space probes decelerate and other accelerate
  20. RC doesn’t know why many planets not are where these “should” be
  21. RC doesn’t how it is possible that Jupiter’s atmosphere must have come from a cooler place.
  22. RC doesn’t know that there is coincidence between stars rotation and distance to the planets, or why.
  23. RC doesn’t know how the Solar system was created; - the old model is full of problem.
  24. RC doesn’t know what energy drives hurricanes for example on Jupiter and Neptune.
  25. RC doesn’t know that so soon time change due to gravity, the yardstick must change too, otherwise the law of nature will not be the same everywhere.
  26. RC doesn’t know that because of that the yardstick also changes when times does, the Mercury orbit anomaly is not solved. – It can’t be.
  27. RC doesn’t know what really causes resistance against motion, - except he know the word that express that (“Erspillten Ladenburmer or Intertia”)
  28. RC doesn’t know any logical reason to why, resistance against motion suddenly “vups” should disappear out in the blue, when constant speed is reached.
  29. RC doesn’t know how to calculate the “negative velocity” due to the resistance of motion, (and hence of cause not able to judge whether any calculation are right or wrong).
  30. RC doesn’t know why the most of all stars are to fast or too slow (according to Keplerian orbits) – (except he believe in the fanatic brain washed & mass hypnotic creeds : dark matter)
  31. RC doesn’t know that stars central in a galaxy “falls from the sky” – they “should” not do so.
  32. RC doesn’t know if space close around us expand or not or how much compared to the rest of the universe. RC believe it not expands, but he don’t know why he believe so, except he can not see it happen.
  33. RC doesn’t know, and can not calculate exactly where the (alleged) borders are where space expands / not expand. (Properly because such do not exist).
  34. RC doesn’t know if the expanding Universe really is accelerating, since he haven’t understood almost anything regarding this question, - for example so long he can not calculate the “borders" mentioned above.
  35. RC doesn’t know why black holes have force/sizes proportional with the masses of galaxies where the black holes are found... and amazingly RC still pretend we know everything about the relation matter / space, and hence that we really have understood the central nature of gravity....(!).

And the list is growing.

How can RC, judge what space & matter does or not does, - or how nature really is connected or not connected ?

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