Haig and his Sun caused earthquakes

Haig: Another abysmal mistake about science (plasma tubes in this case)

Haig said:
Care to show why you think they are wrong ?
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Because it is obvious to anyone with a basic knowledge of science (not you of course :p) who views them that they are wrong, Haig.
They know correlation is not causation.
They know that an example is not even correlation! FYI: a YouTube channel full of cherry picked examples is not correlation either, Haig. Correlation is a statistical analysis that includes not faking the data by cherry picking supposed correlations!

The scientific evidence states that every one of these videos you are spamming us with is wrong:
4 May 2015 Haig: The scientific evidence is that there is no connection between solar activity and earthquakes.
The fact is that science is not used in these crank YouTube videos, thus:
13 May 2015 Haig: The fantasies of Suspicious0bservers are not scientific evidence!
They are Ben Davidson being deluded about an earthquake being caused by solar activity.

The fact the Ben Davidson is an ignorant and deluded electric universe crank just makes it clearer that a rational person will ignore them.

Getting back to your delusions about astronomy, Haig:
Astronomers (mainstream science) have known about and agreed on the role of plasma in astronomy for many decades. Read what you cite :jaw-dropp!
Aussie student proves existence of plasma tubes floating above Earth
“For over 60 years, scientists believed these structures existed, but by imaging them for the first time, we’ve provided visual evidence that they are really there,” said Ms Loi, of the Australia Research Council Centre of Excellence for All-sky Astrophysics (CAASTRO).
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Read how idiotic it is to think that
* plasma tubes that loop from one place in the Earth's magnetosphere to another place is evidence of a Sun Earth connection. All is shows is that the Earths magnetic field interacts with the plasma around it as scientists thought for over 60 years.
* these plasma tubes have any connection with earthquakes.


4 June 2015 Haig: Another abysmal mistake about science (plasma tubes in this case)
 
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Haig: Four points of delusion in your 30 May 2015 post

Got the dates wrong in the list of delusions in one of Haig's posts.
Just how deluded this post by Haig on 30th May 2015 was :p :
  • 2 June 2015 Haig has the delusion that Jupiter gaining a red spot in 2006 and losing a stripe in 2010 has to do with an future possible Grand Solar Minimum!
  • 2 June 2015 Haig has the delusion that Saturn having a superstorm in 2011 has to do with an future possible Grand Solar Minimum!
  • 2 June 2015 Haig has the delusion that marsquakes has to do with an future possible Grand Solar Minimum (or for that matter any solar activity)!
  • 2 June 2015 Haig has the delusion that the climate drivers during that Little Ice Age are the same as they are today (hint: human driven CO2 increases)!
 
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Reality Check said:
Because it is obvious to anyone with a basic knowledge of science (not you of course :p) who views them that they are wrong, Haig.
They know correlation is not causation.
They know that an example is not even correlation! FYI: a YouTube channel full of cherry picked examples is not correlation either, Haig. Correlation is a statistical analysis that includes not faking the data by cherry picking supposed correlations!

The scientific evidence states that every one of these videos you are spamming us with is wrong:
4 May 2015 Haig: The scientific evidence is that there is no connection between solar activity and earthquakes.
The fact is that science is not used in these crank YouTube videos, thus:
13 May 2015 Haig: The fantasies of Suspicious0bservers are not scientific evidence!
They are Ben Davidson being deluded about an earthquake being caused by solar activity.

The fact the Ben Davidson is an ignorant and deluded electric universe crank just makes it clearer that a rational person will ignore them.

Getting back to your delusions about astronomy, Haig:
Astronomers (mainstream science) have known about and agreed on the role of plasma in astronomy for many decades. Read what you cite :jaw-dropp!
Aussie student proves existence of plasma tubes floating above Earth

Read how idiotic it is to think that
* plasma tubes that loop from one place in the Earth's magnetosphere to another place is evidence of a Sun Earth connection. All is shows is that the Earths magnetic field interacts with the plasma around it as scientists thought for over 60 years.
* these plasma tubes have any connection with earthquakes.


4 June 2015 Haig: Another abysmal mistake about science (plasma tubes in this case)
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Everything is electric RC

Here is some more data to fret over ;)

Earth Fields, Electric Comet, Sunspots | S0 News June 3, 2015


Strong coronal channelling and interplanetary evolution of a solar storm up to Earth and Mars
Abstract:
The severe geomagnetic effects of solar storms or coronal mass ejections (CMEs) are to a large degree determined by their propagation direction with respect to Earth. There is a lack of understanding of the processes that determine their non-radial propagation. Here we present a synthesis of data from seven different space missions of a fast CME, which originated in an active region near the disk centre and, hence, a significant geomagnetic impact was forecasted. However, the CME is demonstrated to be channelled during eruption into a direction +37±10° (longitude) away from its source region, leading only to minimal geomagnetic effects. In situ observations near Earth and Mars confirm the channelled CME motion, and are consistent with an ellipse shape of the CME-driven shock provided by the new Ellipse Evolution model, presented here. The results enhance our understanding of CME propagation and shape, which can help to improve space weather forecasts.
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[full paper] ~ http://www.nature.com/ncomms/2015/150526//ncomms8135/pdf/ncomms8135.pdf
 
Haig: A fantasy that Mostl et. al. has anything to do with earthquakes

Haig said:
Everything is electric RC
...snipped usual spamming with crank videos...
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That everything is electric is delusional, Haig - there is also magnetism, gravity, the strong force and the weak force :jaw-dropp!

13 May 2015 Haig: The fantasies of Suspicious0bservers are not scientific evidence!

And another Haig fantasy stated: That Strong coronal channelling and interplanetary evolution of a solar storm up to Earth and Mars (PDF)
has anything to do with solar activity and earthquakes.

4 June 2015 Haig: A fantasy that Mostl et. al. has anything to do with earthquakes.

I guess we are going to see a lot of these fantasies as Haig mindlessly cites the hundreds or thousands of papers about solar activity that mentions the Earth.
 
Reality Check said:
I guess we are going to see a lot of these fantasies as Haig mindlessly cites the hundreds or thousands of papers about solar activity that mentions the Earth.
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Actually it is the "electric universe" overlap that is compellingly emerging in the latest set of links that send this totally into the OT "electric universe" nonsense category which should not at all be in a Science and Technology board thread.
 
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Trakar said:
Actually it is the "electric universe" overlap that is compellingly emerging in the latest set of links that send this totally into the OT "electric universe" nonsense category which should not at all be in a Science and Technology board thread.
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Indeed.

The "electric universe" is more of a fundamentalist religious cult than anything to do with science.
 
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Now to be fair, he can't do that. Studying mainstream physics would expose him to the lies of the establishment !
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Been there done that :p

Some topical news is the re-start of The Large Hadron Collider heading towards 13 trillion electron volts.

Seems they need masses of electricity to make it work :D Hilarious :D

Just like we use/need electricity for practically everything in our daily lives including ourselves as Bioelectromagnetic creatures.

Just as it is in the micro so we find it in the macro. They more we look in the Universe they more we see it. Space is 99.9% plasma.

So electric universe ;)
 
Haig said:
Been there done that :p

Some topical news is the re-start of The Large Hadron Collider heading towards 13 trillion electron volts.

Seems they need masses of electricity to make it work :D Hilarious :D

Just like we use/need electricity for practically everything in our daily lives including ourselves as Bioelectromagnetic creatures.

Just as it is in the micro so we find it in the macro. They more we look in the Universe they more we see it. Space is 99.9% plasma.

So electric universe ;)
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Setting aside the impeccable logic of "particle colliders and the human nervous system use electricity therefore electric universe" :rolleyes: , how about you quote the NASA article accurately, Haig? Your link says "Space is 99.9% plasma" but here's what the article actually says:

"99.9 percent of the Universe is made up of plasma," says Dr. Dennis Gallagher, a plasma physicist at NASA's Marshall Space Flight Center. "Very little material in space is made of rock like the Earth."
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my bold.

Space =/= universe, Haig, even a numpty should know that.
 
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ferd burfle said:
Setting aside the impeccable logic of "particle colliders and the human nervous system use electricity therefore electric universe" :rolleyes: , how about you quote the NASA article accurately, Haig? Your link says "Space is 99.9% plasma" but here's what the article actually says:

my bold.

Space =/= universe, Haig, even a numpty should know that.
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I stand corrected ferd. I should have used Universe :)
 
Haig said:
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We have the electric universe delusion that "Space is 99.9% plasma".
The universe is 4% plasma - unless someone is in denial of science enough to cherry pick a statement by an geophysicist in Plasma, Plasma, Everywhere from 1999 rather than try to understand actual science.

Ending in the delusion that electric universe web site of Wallace Thornhill presented is anything but a set of neo-Velikovskian delusions.
Wallace Thornhill has the idea that the Grand Canyon was recently created by a giant lightning strike :eek: (maybe from Venus in one of its mythical and physically impossible encounters with us).
Wallace Thornhill is deluded enough to think that comes are rocks despite their measured density of less than water!
 
Haig said:
Nope, that's wrong.
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The idiocy of relying on a crank like Ben Davidson for delusions continues!
13 May 2015 Haig: The fantasies of Suspicious0bservers are not scientific evidence!

We have the ignorant act of linking to a NASA introduction to Heliophysics as if it has anything to do with the Sun causing earthquakes.

A lie about "triggering earthquakes with a weak coronal hole" which is the paper "Weaker solar wind from the polar coronal holes and the whole Sun" published in 2008 and does not mention earthquakes except in the delusions of Ben Davidson.
 
The latest unaddressed ignorance, fantasies and delusions are beginning to mount up, Haig:
  1. 27 May 2015 Haig: Can you understand that Schnepf et. al is not about the Sun or earthquakes (no matter what delusions Ben Davidson may have about it!) ?
  2. 2 June 2015 Haig: Can you understand that ignorant comments on a crank web site are not scientific evidence.
  3. 2 June 2015 Haig: Four points of delusion in your 30 May 2015 post
  4. 4 June 2015 Haig: Your ignorance about Scott, et. al. and a fantasy about its results does not mean that the Sun causes earthquakes when the scientific evidence is that it does not!.
  5. 4 June 2015 Haig: Another abysmal mistake about science (plasma tubes in this case)
  6. 4 June 2015 Haig: A fantasy that Mostl et. al. has anything to do with earthquakes.

Not a surprise though since there is a record of almost 5 years of being fooled by delusional cranks before this thread:
 
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