jeffreyw
Critical Thinker
Yep. Even **** is stardust. That's going on my headstone for sure.
The General Theory of Stellar Metamorphosis
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Yep. Even **** is stardust. That's going on my headstone for sure.
jeffreyw
Critical Thinker
Another vid for the bean brains who don't quite understand what Earth is. How simple can it be? Oh wait. It can be more simple. Big hot rock become small cold rock. durrrrrr
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WeM5pRcuOsA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WeM5pRcuOsA
Reality Check
Penultimate Amazing
Anyone can recognize the usual deluded video, jeffreyw. Looks like abysmally ignorant cartoon sketches being drawn and narrated - a skip through confirms that is so.
A list of 21 ignorant and deluded items from jeffreyw starts with: 15th January 2015 jeffreyw: That is a video containing an ignorant fantasy about how planets were formed. The Sun is 333,000 Earth masses!
and continues:
- 22 March 2016 jeffreyw: The delusion that stars have cooler "interior regions" (stellar fusion means hotter cores).
- 30 March 2016 jeffreyw: A delusion that iron/nickel alloys in asteroids cannot form!
- 30 March 2016 jeffreyw: The ignorance of citing the invalid theory of Halton Arp of quasars being ejected from galaxies.
- 30 March 2016 jeffreyw: Probable lie about Victor Ambartsumian maybe based on stories from Arp.
- 5 April 2016 jeffreyw: It is a delusion that "all the objects in our solar system are not related".
- 5 April 2016 jeffreyw: A lie about the Nice model - it produces most of the features of the Solar System.
- 5 April 2016 jeffreyw: A lie about a Principle of Stellar Adoption paper.
- 5 April 2016 jeffreyw: Cites another crank (J. Marvin Herndon) that jeffreyw thinks has unsound ideas!
- 5 April 2016 jeffreyw: A delusion about "the failed plate tectonics theory" as reading Wikipedia would show you.
- 7 April 2016 jeffreyw: This is a delusion about "great insight" since you have a recorded history of repeated ignorance of science and fantasies, e.g. the Earth being 133,000 times heavier than it is (a solar mass!).
- 29 May 2016 jeffreyw: The Kepler data excludes expoplanets from being stars - they have masses from about Earths to over Jupiter's and always below that of stars.
- 29 May 2016 jeffreyw: The formation of stellar systems from gas clouds means that it is expected that one or more planets will form with the star from the left-over material.
- 29 May 2016 jeffreyw: The Earth's crust is 4.368 and 4.380 billion years old
. - 29 May 2016 jeffreyw: Stars do not "evolve" from mainly H & He to the composition of rocky planets. Only fusion creates the medium weight elements and stars exploding create heavier elements.
- 29 May 2016 jeffreyw: Stars do not magically lose mass except by exploding and leaving behind neutron stars.
- 29 May 2016 jeffreyw: It is a lie that "objects in our system can even be placed in context to the" [URL="Great Oxygenation Event"]Great Oxygenation Event which happened on Earth about 2.3 billon years ago[/URL]
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jeffreyw
Critical Thinker
another vid on the differentiation process
Some cut off points are mentioned to fully explain that stellar evolution is "planet formation".
From crust formation, to chemical differentiation and the like. Baz is also making me another video concerning this process so people can understand better.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WeM5pRcuOsA
Some cut off points are mentioned to fully explain that stellar evolution is "planet formation".
From crust formation, to chemical differentiation and the like. Baz is also making me another video concerning this process so people can understand better.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WeM5pRcuOsA
jeffreyw
Critical Thinker
It is "establishment science". It is understood that only ideas that are accepted by "peers" is published. Those "peers" act as a Inquisition board, any ideas that are deemed to be dangerous to the brand of said university (or the careers of its members) are rejected, as well are rejected if they do not come from internal sources.
Its common behavior and by glossing over it, saying it doesn't exist is just being in denial. I'm surprised with this "skeptical" community yall didn't know that.
ferd burfle
Graduate Poster
Dig deep enough into any fringe claim and you'll find a conspiracy theory
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Reality Check
Penultimate Amazing
jeffreyw: 37 items of ignorance and delusion since 15th January 2015
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Flooding this thread with ignorant and deluded YouTube videos will convince no one of anything except that ignorant and deluded YouTube videos exist.
17 June 2016 jeffreyw: 37 items of ignorance and delusion since 15th January 2015
I will cut you off with pointing out the total denial of the real world where stars are not planets
!Flooding this thread with ignorant and deluded YouTube videos will convince no one of anything except that ignorant and deluded YouTube videos exist.
17 June 2016 jeffreyw: 37 items of ignorance and delusion since 15th January 2015
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Penultimate Amazing
jeffreyw: A delusion - establishment science does not have life forming on comets
Comets have temperatures less than that of the melting point of water - life cannot form on comets.
Looking back shows again how ignorant and even deluded "stellar metamorphosis" is:
20 June 2016 jeffreyw: The 27 December 2014 delusion that plasma at temperatures of stars have "electrochemical" and "redox" reactions.
Electrochemistry and reduction–oxidation reaction (redox).
20 June 2016 jeffreyw: The 27 December 2014 delusion that stars are not powered by fusion (we detect the neutrinos from that fusion from the Sun!)
20 June 2016 jeffreyw: The 27 December 2014 delusion that life forms on stars - the Earth is not a star now and was not a star when life originated here.
20 June 2016 jeffreyw: A delusion from 27 December 2014 - establishment science does not have life forming on comets.
Comets have temperatures less than that of the melting point of water - life cannot form on comets.
Looking back shows again how ignorant and even deluded "stellar metamorphosis" is:
20 June 2016 jeffreyw: The 27 December 2014 delusion that plasma at temperatures of stars have "electrochemical" and "redox" reactions.
Electrochemistry and reduction–oxidation reaction (redox).
20 June 2016 jeffreyw: The 27 December 2014 delusion that stars are not powered by fusion (we detect the neutrinos from that fusion from the Sun!)
20 June 2016 jeffreyw: The 27 December 2014 delusion that life forms on stars - the Earth is not a star now and was not a star when life originated here.
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Penultimate Amazing
jeffreyw: Conspiracy theory fantasy about peer review
This lie is often the last resort of internet science cranks who are too incompetent or cowardly to expose their ideas to the review of people who do science for a living.
There is a large proportion of published scientific papers that are authored by people who do not work at universities. For example the non-university NASA centers such as the Jet Propulsion Laboratory
The proportion of published scientific papers that are authored people at businesses such as Bell Labs might be smaller.
20 June 2016 jeffreyw: Conspiracy theory fantasy about peer review.
This lie is often the last resort of internet science cranks who are too incompetent or cowardly to expose their ideas to the review of people who do science for a living.
There is a large proportion of published scientific papers that are authored by people who do not work at universities. For example the non-university NASA centers such as the Jet Propulsion Laboratory
The proportion of published scientific papers that are authored people at businesses such as Bell Labs might be smaller.
jeffreyw
Critical Thinker
Sure is. The problem is that stellar evolution is planet formation. The two objects were never mutually exclusive except for the terms, which forced them to be mutually exclusive.
So it is tradition I'm battling, not science. It is traditional to think stars are big hot and bright, and planets as small, cold and dim. Fact is, they are one in the same, the experts forgot half of their diagram because they assumed all stars shined. Nobody seems to have asked the question, "what happens when stars don't shine anymore?" Ooops.
It is nothing short of a great mistake, on par with them thinking the Earth was the center of the universe. It was a demotion, perhaps, making Earth as one of the "planets". I'd consider stellar metamorphosis is promoting it again, to the ranks of star, because that's what it is, an ancient star older than the Sun. The remains of a single star's evolutionary path, as are all the other objects too which are still "alive" so to speak.
The diagram is easy to understand.
ferd burfle
Graduate Poster
The name for what you're battling is reality, Jeffrey. To hold reality at bay you accuse scientists of ignorance and/or conspiracies. It helps that your fringe theory is in the field of astrophysics, where much of the subject matter can't be observed up close. A comparable claim in the field of biology would be that bats are insects, but even non-scientists would ridicule that because the subjects are pretty easy to observe.
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jeffreyw
Critical Thinker
Oh yea, and I also drew up a paper on General Science Journal that makes sure the establishment cannot backtrack and way "they knew this the entire time".
I had to make sure I could nail them to the wall just in case they want to play silly credit games.
http://gsjournal.net/Science-Journals/%7B$cat_name%7D/View/4569
I have them bottle-necked between false dogma and me. Or, a rock and a hard place. I guess I'm the rock. lmao. I'm just shocked as to how some half-wit like myself can outclass them. I wonder how many times in history this has happened?
What is even funnier is that if I'm a half-wit, and I've outclassed them, what are they? quarter-wits?
Shalamar
Dark Lord of the JREF
Stars are actually pea soup.
It's when you pull a pot of soup off the stove and it's really hot. That's a star.
When it cools and congeals and sticks to the pot where you might as well throw the pot away? That's a planet.
When mold grows on the remains of the congealed soup? That's life.
It's so obvious! Only morons fail to understand that stars are actually composed of pea soup! 'Establishment science' denies this!
It's when you pull a pot of soup off the stove and it's really hot. That's a star.
When it cools and congeals and sticks to the pot where you might as well throw the pot away? That's a planet.
When mold grows on the remains of the congealed soup? That's life.
It's so obvious! Only morons fail to understand that stars are actually composed of pea soup! 'Establishment science' denies this!
Lennart Hyland
Muse
So its a conspiracy?
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Penultimate Amazing
The problem is the repeated delusion of stellar evolution is planet formation leads to lies about science.
21 June 2016 jeffreyw: A lie that stars are "big hot and bright" by tradition - it is observations and measurements that establish this.
21 June 2016 jeffreyw: A lie that planets are "small, cold and dim" by tradition - it is observations and measurements that establish this.
21 June 2016 jeffreyw: A lie that " Nobody seems to have asked the question, "what happens when stars don't shine anymore?"".
Ooops
! That a totally delusional image is not science is very easy to understand.
21 June 2016 jeffreyw: New stars are observed to from collapsing gas clouds, not imaginary Bennett pinches.
21 June 2016 jeffreyw: It is not difficult to understand that stars are hundreds of thousands of times heavier than planets and remain that heavy when they cool down
!21 June 2016 jeffreyw: The idiocy of labeling astronomers as "creationists"
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Doubt
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2D model gives a general idea how things happen. Looks a lot like ordinary star formation and not the idea that planets are stars.
http://www.nowykurier.com/toys/gravity/gravity.html
http://www.nowykurier.com/toys/gravity/gravity.html
Reality Check
Penultimate Amazing
You drew up a paper that merely repeats ignorance, delusions and lies about science that we have seen in this thread, jeffreyw.
Starting with the total delusion that the mass of stars can magically vanish. The Sun is 133,000 times heavier than the Earth
! Read the pit of ignorance and delusion (and some lies) you have been digging yourself deeper into:
17 June 2016 jeffreyw: 37 items of ignorance and delusion since 15th January 2015
No one would be stupid enough to want to take credit for such a delusional idea.
To which we need to add:
- 20 June 2016 jeffreyw: A delusion from 27 December 2014 - establishment science does not have life forming on comets.
- 20 June 2016 jeffreyw: The 27 December 2014 delusion that plasma at temperatures of stars have "electrochemical" and "redox" reactions.
- 20 June 2016 jeffreyw: The 27 December 2014 delusion that stars are not powered by fusion (we detect the neutrinos from that fusion from the Sun!)
- 20 June 2016 jeffreyw: The 27 December 2014 delusion that life forms on stars - the Earth is not a star now and was not a star when life originated here.
- 20 June 2016 jeffreyw: Conspiracy theory fantasy about peer review.
- 21 June 2016 jeffreyw: A lie that stars are "big hot and bright" by tradition - it is observations and measurements that establish this.
- 21 June 2016 jeffreyw: A lie that planets are "small, cold and dim" by tradition - it is observations and measurements that establish this.
- 21 June 2016 jeffreyw: A lie that " Nobody seems to have asked the question, "what happens when stars don't shine anymore?"".
- 21 June 2016 jeffreyw: New stars are observed to from collapsing gas clouds, not imaginary Bennett pinches.
- 21 June 2016 jeffreyw: It is not difficult to understand that stars are hundreds of thousands of times heavier than planets and remain that heavy when they cool down !
- 21 June 2016 jeffreyw: The idiocy of labeling astronomers as "creationists" !