Bjarne on: Dark Energy, only an illusion.

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Bjarne said:
The shown post fragment is taken completely out of several different contexts.
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As far as I can tell, the interpretation of most of the quotes is unchanged by being quoted without surrounding debris. As for the other quotes, the context in which they were embedded makes them look worse - I incidentally did you a favor by quoting for pith and humor rather than just humor.

Bjarne said:
Complexity,
So far you had not had one single thread relevant “matter of facts” argument, but only arrogant and condescension behaviors.
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Nonsense.

I pointed out that other posters have demolished your arguments, that your 'scientific' efforts should be dismissed, explored some of the underlying reasons for your suspect reasoning, suggested a path by which you could Vastly improve both your scientific knowledge and reasoning ability, and urged you to improve your responses to critics.

All of these are quite relevant to the thread and extremely constructive.

Bjarne said:
If you cannot contribute to this thread, with thread relevant matter of facts - but only continue to be scornful, and trying to derail the thread, (so like the other post of yours Modifier already once have moved), - then please leave this thread.
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No. Part of my cheerfully accepted mission is to search out, expose, and revile woo, and you, my dear, are a prime example of woo. Others have done the heavy lifting (not that heavy in this case) of enumerating your many mistakes; I am left with the happy task of celebrating your remarkable achievements.

Bjarne said:
If you really have some worth mentioned understanding of gravity, then please reply for exsample to these basic questions: <snipped due to lack of interest>
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As I explained in an earlier post, some things are simply too silly to respond to.
 
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Here are some of my favorite Bjarne quotes from pages 1 - 3 of this thread:

Bjarne said:
This is only words
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Bjarne said:
NEVER say never.
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Bjarne said:
I am not confused, it have taken me years to come to that conclusion. Today I am sure.
My technique is simple. Things are connected. I have given you the main thread, follow it, it can only lead you to the exact same conclusion, - distances too are relative, - no doubt.
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Bjarne said:
This idea is invented of people that never had have a hammer in their hands.
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Bjarne said:
Is it forbidden to use the right brian half in science ?
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Here are some of my favorite Bjarne quotes from pages 10 - 13 of this thread:

Bjarne said:
Your idea is inconsistent
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Can't see any problem with that.
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Bjarne said:
No experiment proves I am wrong.
If it was so simple you would have shown me.
Central measurement of ADG has never been done.
This is mainly where the camel is buried...
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Bjarne said:
and the cow.
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Bjarne said:
cowss.jpg
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Bjarne said:
And to make the confusion complete, there is more space today, but only more delusion-space. One day a cow will be “bigger” than the earth is today.
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Bjarne said:
This is why the energy is only the half, and so simple that every cow can see no energy have been lost.
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Bjarne said:
All cows know what resistance is, - and many cows can calculated it to between 5 km/h to 15 cow-kilometre/h – (depending on where in the Universe the cow is).
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Bjarne said:
CowStamp.jpg
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Bjarne said:
Believe and science has not only become the same fantastic holy thing, - Science is many times much more desperate, because scientific believes many times is based on so thin ice that even the must stupid cow in the world intuitive knows that such thin ice easy could be deadly.
Then better not take one single step forward.
But we shall not envy cows; they have simply much bigger brain like us.
Amen.
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As I explained in an earlier post, some things are simply too silly to respond to.
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I believe you have no knowledge at all about the cause of gravity.
 
Here are some of my favorite Bjarne quotes from pages 14 - 19 of this thread:

Bjarne said:
I hate to do further calculation, ( so don't ask me).
My brain is not created to that, but only to dream me away from incoherent creeds.
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Bjarne said:
This is sooooooo superficial, as if I try to explian you that the cause to a cow give milk is off course that it drink water and eat graas, every one can see it.
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Bjarne said:
The answer is cow stupid down to Earth simple.
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Bjarne said:
Curved brains is not contracted brains.
Ust Kut is a town in Russia not in New Zealand
In the town Ust Cut space is stretching in New Zealand it is curving
In Denmark some places space is stretching and other places it is curving.
Curvature of space is just a bit too cow clumsy, - Caroline Cow told told me in a dream.
RC. Confusion Ltd. is NOT a town north form Krasnoyarsk but a factory down under some place.
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Bjarne said:
Finally one that understood
The hamburger and the cows are united.
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Bjarne said:
I mean not an answer like; blab la bla Big blue GR junkyard dimension, but down to normal earth cow logic sense.
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Bjarne said:
Most likely he will get that cow, but a potential cow is not a real cow and it can also not replace a real cow.
Every farmer (and cow) knows that.
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Bjarne said:
Now show me you are man / scientist and not mother's darlings, and ANSWER THAT QUESTIONS.
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Bjarne said:
Gravity sucks, elementary particle sucks (space) .. and that's it.
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Bjarne said:
It token me some time really to understand these simple PRINCIPLE, - it was the husband to Caroline Cow (the Bull) that told med in a dream.
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Bjarne said:
All what that expression covers is nothing more than: what goes up must come down. NOTHING more. Cows understand that too…
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Bjarne said:
Do NEVER underestimate cow logic.
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Bjarne said:
Energy is a number not a vector. It has no direction.
Cow A eat grass and get energy to walk to the left
Cow B eat grass and get energy to walk to the right
The energy responsible for the force of cow A and B equalize each other if you connect the 2 cows with a robe.
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Bjarne said:
So you deny that it require energy per second to keep a cow in orbit, hence you properly also denies that the energy bill from your household also counts per time (hour).
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Let me ask you this, Bjarne... What are your degrees? What are your qualifications to speak of the mathemathical properties of spacetime?
 
The fatal flaws and basic ignorance in Bjarne's ideas in his threads

Added his apparent abuse of the gravitational time dilation equation to calculate some sort of distance stuff.
  1. "Bended space is Contracted Space"
    Curved space is not contracted space
    First Asked 11 November 2009
  2. Physical quantities can be arbitrarily assigned units of measurement, e.g. an equation that returns numbers (no units) can be given units of m/s^2 or coulombs or kilograms just because Bjarne wants it to return acceleration or charge or mass. He ignorantly gives the Lorentz factor - 1 (a number) the units or acceleration.
  3. Anything Bjarne states is right even if there is experimental evidence that shows that it is wrong.
  4. Energy is not conserved in Bjarne's universe!
    First asked 26 November 2009
  5. Can Bjarne understand that the force of gravity is not constant within a solid sphere?
    First asked 26 October 2009
  6. Can Bjarne understand the physics behind orbital resonances?
    First asked 3 December 2009
    So far the answer is no :eye-poppi!
  7. Does Bjarne understand orbital mechanics?
    First asked 3 December 2009.
    So far the answer is no :eye-poppi!
  8. Can Bjarne understand that energy is not a force and cannot "equalize" a force?
    First asked 9 December 2009 So far the answer is no :eye-poppi !
    You can expend energy to create a force to equalize a force as a hovering helicopter does. But the simple facts are:
    • Forces are vectors but energy is a number.
    • The SI units of force are Newtons but the SI units of energy is Joules.
  9. Bjarne asks what a particle is!
  10. His simplistic knowledge of physics is betrayed by his delusion that since the force of gravity varies as 1/r^2 (e.g. a factor of 4 when r doubles) then the "speed factor “should” hence have been factor 4 as well" (plus other silly previous posts).
    The Basics of Space Flight: Circular Orbital Motion shows clearly that the mean orbital speed of objects should vary that the inverse of the square root of r. The fact that objects actually act like this in the real universe shocks Bjarne!
  11. More of Bjarne's ignorance of simple physics (circular motion).
  12. Bjarne asks "( What is ”radian” ? – 1 orbit)"
  13. Bjarne does not understand that gravitational time dilation has been measured and matches GR. It is not "guessing".
  14. Bjarne's ignorance of GR
  15. Bjarne's ignorance of the electromagnetic spectrum and geometry
  16. Please show your calculations that the Domus Vista data is too inaccurate to test your idea
  17. What calculations did you do to show your cylinder data will be accurate?
  18. Where does the kinetic energy of a cow falling off a cliff come from?
    First asked 20 May 2010
    No answer so far except some insane gibberish and a link to a crank web site page about Quantum Mechanics :eye-poppi!
  19. Yet another example of Bjarne's lack of knowledge of mathematics and physics!
  20. He has no idea of what a center of gravity is as shown in his current delusion that he can arbitrary change the objects included in a system and expect the system's center of mass to remain the same.
  21. Does Bjarne know that difference between time and distance?
    First asked 7th July 2010
    (an apparent abuse of the gravitational time dilation equation to calculate distances)
And the questions he he cannot answer (basically about units of measurement):
 
jhunter1163 said:
Sorry if this has been pointed out above, but in post #1207 in the "Correction" table Bjarne's earth-sun distances are off by a factor of 1,000.
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As Bjarne states, he made a mistake in having km instead of meters.

Of course the real insanity in that post is his apparent plugging of distances into the gravitational time dilation equation.

And then there is the simple fact that he has not yet given us the equation for "stretch-factor" nor how he derived this equation from General Relativity. He may have been so ignorant that he just used the gravitational time dilation equation since that would refelect his most basic ignorance:
He thinks that physical quantities can be arbitrarily assigned units of measurement, e.g. an equation that returns numbers (no units) can be given units of m/s^2 or coulombs or kilograms just because Bjarne wants it to return acceleration or charge or mass. He ignorantly gives the Lorentz factor - 1 (a number) the units or acceleration.
 
Bjarne said:
You know "something" happens to space.
You have no idea what really happens to space.

You also know “something” happens to distances.
You have no idea what really happens to distances.

You are satisfied with an almost dead impression, and that you can calculate time dilation.

"Curvature" or "space-time" is a dead end.
We can reach a larger "perspective" possible better to understand what that "something" really is.

In physic it is always good if we can simplify and unite phenomena’s and forces..
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We know something happens to space.
We have plenty of idea what really happens to space.

We also know something happens to distances.
We have plenty of idea what really happens to distances.

We are not are satisfied with an almost complete expression of how the universe works , and that we can calculate and measure things auch as time dilation. We are constantly trying to make scientific theories better.

Curvature and space-time work.
We can reach a larger perspective by using the scientific method rather than the delusions of crackpots who have no evidence that their ideas even work and are ignorant of the existing science.

In physics it is always good if we can simplify and unite phenomena’s and forces ... so long as it is done so that the theory produced is better than the existing theories.
The mental images of a crackpot that have little relationship with reality is not that theory.

Bjarne said:
We must (at least ) ask the simple question; could that strange "curvature" or "space-time" >> mean stretched space, and the 100% exact the same property responsible for the expanding / stretching of space / universe?
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We have asked the question and the answer is easily seen to be no: Curved space is not stretched or contracted space.
 
Bjarne said:
I believe you have no knowledge at all about the cause of gravity.
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Even if this were true, all that would mean is that he is on the level with you.

Even if we don't know the root cause (it can always be claimed that there is a level below), we know a lot. You don't know anything. You are even ignorant about the cows you keep referring to.

You are seeing yourself as the child in the Emperor's New Clothes, but you fail to realize that you are stark naked yourself. You have nothing. You know nothing. You can't figure anything out.

Hans
 
Reality Check said:
We know something happens to space.
We have plenty of idea what really happens to space.
We also know something happens to distances.
We have plenty of idea what really happens to distances.
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Again (as expected); - only a load of empty words.
You have no idea at all of what is in fact the curvature of space really ?.
If you had you would have answered the questions.

I can’t see that space at my head is bending.
There is no objective evidence that space bends/curves.

We can mathematically probes “something” happens to space, because of distances seems to change space near an object.
But that is all we "know".
We have try to explain that by poor words/expressions such as : The curvatures of space.

My daughter did in the kindergarten learn that a lion was a very dangerous animal that could eat here.
One day she hears a motorcycle; and she said I am afraid: Why I ask? - Because a Lion is coming.

Words could impossible give her a true “picture” of what that dangerous Lion really was.

Even 17 years at a University (the time RC spend) couldn’t had given her a correct impression.

First that day she (at least) saw a photo of a lion and hear the sound, first that day she finally understood.

Nobody, even not the most intelligent cow in the world would know what a lion was, without at least seeing a picture.

Figuratively the same off course applies for human, (but apparently not for RC, he seems to be omniscient, I guess it is the 17 years at the University that give him the supernatural concrete turbo imagination).

RC.
I have tried to give you a little better “picture” of what bended space really is.
AND I have proven it be measurement, and beforehand by predicting that our understanding of CENTRAL gravity is wrong.

This massage is send to you from the third down to earth dimension.

You (and many more) have chosen to ignore both:
  • the measurable evidence, showing that the prevailing understanding of inner gravity is DISPROVEN
  • as well as the “picture” of what the curvature of space really is.
I believe there is nothing more I can do for you. – The only medicine left is, try to read this, - at least 10.000 times.

A new scientific truth does not triumph by convincing its opponents and making them see the light, but rather because its opponents eventually die, and a new generation grows up that is familiar with it
Max Planck”

Or better (I believe) let your University teacher repeat it for you 10.000 times.

We are not are satisfied with an almost complete expression of how the universe works , and that we can calculate and measure things auch as time dilation. We are constantly trying to make scientific theories better.
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I wish that was true.
But the painful truth is that many “scientist” are making "science" worse and worse day by day. - Never have one single word been more abused than; "science"...
And the majorities are immediately mass-brainwashed to believe these “scientist”. (through education institutes, TV and magazines) ..

Not only ton,. but Megaton of crap is mass-manufactured ever year:
Think for example of DarkMatter, Higgs Parallel Universes, Plenty dimensions,- and the whole contradiction, illogic and incoherent “understanding” of motion, energy, and resistance. etc...tec...etc...

Curvature and space-time work.
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You can calculate time, but have no idea at all:
  • How distances / space is affected by matter
  • Why distances can be affected, - what that property of space really is.

We can reach a larger perspective by using the scientific method rather than the delusions of crackpots who have no evidence that their ideas even work and are ignorant of the existing science.
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I have disproven the prevailing understanding of central gravity.
You have chosen to ignore it.
This tells more about you than about me.

I mean if you arrogant and condescending feel you have the right to call me a crackpot, liar, crank and I guess also crazy, - if moderator would accept so, - what would you say if I claim that you are brainwashed and programmed to automatically reject even objective evidence?

In physics it is always good if we can simplify and unite phenomena’s and forces ... so long as it is done so that the theory produced is better than the existing theories.
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And this is exactly what I have done and PROVEN by the scientific methods.. But you are lost in pure speculation you fully believe is certain knowledge.

We have asked the question and the answer is easily seen to be no: Curved space is not stretched or contracted space.
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I am 99999,957353 % sure that you had forgot; Amen.
Even if this were true, all that would mean is that he is on the level with you.
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Ohh no, he enjoy to provoke without self being so , and he have properly no idea of what this thread is about.

I am only provoke if :
  • somebody does the same to me.
  • science is abused, and rather reflect fanatic orthodox religion.
  • It is obviously that certain-knowledge > “science” in facts is build on a foundation (a heavy) stupid cow knows is too weak. For example the nuts idea that mountains is build due to the inner heat flow, - and 100 other similar completely nuts brainwashed conclusion
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“Science cannot solve the ultimate mystery of nature. And that is because, in the last analysis, we ourselves are a part of the mystery that we are trying to solve.”
Max Planck
 
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Reply 'mu' when you want a question to be unasked.

Reply 'moo' when you want a statement to be unsaid.



moo
 
Are you truly ignorant of the objective evidence for General Relativity

Bjarne said:
Again (as expected); - only a load of empty words.
You have no idea at all of what is in fact the curvature of space really ?.
If you had you would have answered the questions.

I can’t see that space at my head is bending.
There is no objective evidence that space bends/curves.
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Your ignorance is amazing and seems to be increasing:
The objective evidence that space bends/curves is: Tests of general relativity.
For Your Ignorance's (FYI) sake: GR is that gravity is a concequence of the curvature of spacetime.

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Bjarne,
Are you truly ignorant of the objective evidence for General Relativity?

Or is this somtheing to add to your ever growing list:
 
The objective evidence that space bends/curves is: Tests of general relativity.
For Your Ignorance's (FYI) sake: GR is that gravity is a concequence of the curvature of spacetime.
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Excactly like the sound of a Motorcycle is the same as the sound of a Lion (if you do not know better) ...

stretch is a much better expression Sir, - but as Max Planck so correct wrote, it is probably to late for you RC to understand that moo muu cow logic fact.
 
Bjarne said:
I have disproven the prevailing understanding of central gravity.
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No.

You don't even understand your own results.

Bjarne, a simple question:

How do you, using your measurements, calculate the gravity effect from Domus Vista on, let's say, floor 10?

Be specific.

If you can't answer this, you show that you don't understand your own data.

If you try to answer, you might understand what your problem is.

.... Or you can ignore this and keep talking about cows. :rolleyes:

Hans
 
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